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Originally posted by SirMike
Evidence does not equal data. The conclusion of an untestable hypothesis is not a metaphysical certainly ... and "hot particles" pose no greater risk then any other form of ionizing radiation:
Originally posted by SirMike
Evidence does not equal data.
1. Factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions.
3. Values derived from scientific experiments.
1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment:
2. Something indicative; an outward sign:
1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove.
2. To support by testimony; attest.
The biggest radiation threat we have is from oil, as oil wells typically have radioactive layers in the drilling process. Frac sand is usually radioactive when removed, as is oil. On oil tankers you often see "radioactive" warnings in addition to the "flammable" ones.
(...)The expected concentrations of cesium 137 in the air over the territory swept by the plume are extremely low.
This radionuclide is representative of radioactive material released long-distance during a nuclear accident.
IRSN agreed with the Environment Protection Agency of the United States (EPA), which suggests that these concentrations will not affect health and the environment.
In addition, they will be so small that they may probably be detected in the environment than by sample measurements performed in specialized laboratories.(...)
The plume from Fukushima has now reached the western Atlantic but its radioactivity is likely to be “extremely low” and have [color=orane]no impact on health or the environment, France’s Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) said on Saturday.
[color=00FF00]'As of yesterday, the cloud covered most of North America and northeastern Siberia.
'It is currently passing over the North Atlantic,' it said, naming French terroritories in the Caribbean and off Canada’s eastern coast.
The cloud has been progressively thinning as it heads eastwards around the northern hemisphere at high altitude and will reach mainland Europe on Wednesday or Thursday, it said, citing a computer model jointly compiled with the French weather service, Meteo France. (…)
* Although xenon is not toxic, its compounds are highly toxic -- CRC handbook of chemistry
Health Canada, March 31, 2011:
• Mobile Survey of Saanich Peninsula March 22, 2011 0.37 [microseiverts/day]
• Mobile Survey of Victoria March 22, 2011 0.48 …
• Mobile Survey around Vancouver March 24, 2011 0.67 …
• Mobile Survey around Haida Gwaii March 24, 2011 0.73
• Mobile Survey around Vancouver March 25, 2011 0.72
Please note that there was no new data collected by NRCan on March 23, 2011, and that until further notice mobile surveys are suspended.
… The jet stream is carrying the radiation from Japan to North America.
Most of the radioactivity disperses in the atmosphere and falls over the Pacific Ocean on its way over, but some of it has now reached the West Coast, falling down with rain, and mixing with seawater. It’s also accumulating in seaweed.
• We’re going to see [color=Chartreuse]another year of these rainouts
• Rainout: When hot particles get dropped from radioactive clouds during rainstorms
• [color=Cyan]Officials say radiation levels are minute and present no health risk…
I am working with scientists who are publishing a paper that will definitively prove that to be wrong
• Rainouts are occurring not just in Pacific NW… we will continue to see rainouts...
• Lots of serious ramifications from burning of nuclear waste
• Material from Fukushima that was on the ground is now going airborne again
• Towns now getting cesium redeposited on them by the burning of nuclear material
• Clouds of radiation recontaminating areas deemed clean or low
• Continues across to the Pacific Northwest
Quebec’s only nuclear power plant was shut down Tuesday night following two malfunctions, including a heavy water leak that Hydro- Quebec didn’t announce for two months.
A recuperation system overflowed on June 13 inside the Gentilly-2 plant, located 150 km northeast of Montreal.
Hydro-Quebec spokeswoman Flavie Cote [...] confirmed [color=Salmon]a second problem at the 48-year-old nuclear plant.
A pneumatic valve malfunctioned inside the reactor building. (...)
What I see now is a second Fukushima occurring from burning radioactive waste…
[color=Chartreuse]Basically, the radioactive gases that settled on the ground are going to be thrown into the air and waft into other places in Japan and across the Pacific to British Columbia, Oregon and Washington…
The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CIFA) has deemed fish tested in the wake of the Japan nuclear disaster as radiation free, but will not divulge where samples were taken from. (...)
The agency did not answer repeated questions about where the samples were taken from in B.C., saying only that they were came from various processing stations. (...)
Stó:lō Tribal Council fisheries advisor Ernie Crey said he is puzzled at the agency’s reticence about where the fish were taken from.
[color=Cyan]'It’s this kind of response from government officials that give rise to suspicion among Canadians,' Crey told Indian Country Today Media Network.
'There is simply no good reason to withhold this information from the public.' (...)
[color=Cyan]'Public officials in Japan and Canada alike jumped straight into Chernobyl-style damage-control mode, dismissing any worries about impacts,' writes The Straight’s Alex Roslin.
The paper has obtained Canadian government data showing a monitoring station in Calgary detected an average of 8.18 Becquerels per liter of radioactive [color=Cyan]Iodine-131 in rainwater last March. This “exceeded Canadian guidelines” according to the paper.
[color=Chartreuse]Health Canada’s data on rainwater is “puzzling” because the test results it reported are much lower than the data of Simon Frazer University professor Krzysztof Starosta.
“He found [color=Cyan]Iodine-131 levels in rainwater in Burnaby (near Vancouver) spiked to 13 becquerels per litre in the days after Fukushima.
[Color=Chartreuse]'That’s many times higher than the levels detected in Vancouver by Health Canada.'
• “Already on 15 March, a first isolated [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 cloud reached western North America, followed by the arrival of high concentrations of both [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 and [color=Cyan]Cesium-137 on 19 March.”
• “The main part of the radioactive plume entered western North America on 17–18 March.
On 18 March at 12:00UTC, the head of the plume had already arrived over the North Atlantic, but the main part was located over the eastern Pacific Ocean and western North America, where it could be detected at monitoring sites.
[color=Cyan]This part of the plume was also rich in Cesium-137, as it was still close to the surface south of 50 (Most of US/Canada border is 49°).
At the same time, the plume penetrated the subtropics and arrived at Hawaii on 19 March.”
• “A map of the simulated surface concentrations of [color=Cyan]Xenon-133 for 22 March shows that
[color=Chartreuse]all of western North America was engulfed by the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant plume, as well as parts of eastern North America and eastern Asia.”
San Luis Obispo Mothers for Peace is a non-profit organization concerned with the local dangers involving the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, and with the dangers of nuclear power, weapons and waste on national and global levels.
Additionally, Mothers for Peace concerns itself with issues of peace, social justice and a safe environment.
• It’s more a matter of something happened that we didn’t want to happen.
• We know its going to impact public health.
[color=Cyan]• There’s not a whole lot you can do about it.
• Once you let the horse out of the barn, hell, the horse took the barn door with it.
• We’re stuck, this is an accident that should have been prevented. It’s hard to respond to it.
[color=Salmon]And so what, the Japanese will have a few babies born limbless or with blotchy skin,
they will adapt to their environment.
You're joking, right?
My wife is Japanese, my in-laws are Japanese, and many of the surviving in-laws did time in Tehachapi and we do not appreciate your attempt at levity or derailment.
If you do not think anything is wrong, you eat the yellow snow and drink the milk.
[color=Salmon]Now just to clear the air, i do not like what is going on over there but we cannot help the situation playing keyboard tag with the mongering of fear.
Speak for yourself.
"Playing keyboard tag," as you call it, just might invigorate enough concerned citizens to get up off their lazy butts, turn off American Idol, Dancing With the Stars and Cupcake Wars and
In April, the Japanese government raised its maximum limit for children from one to 20 millisieverts per year, a level that leads to 2,270 cancers annually per million people (or 160,000 lifetime cancers per million), according to data in a landmark 2006 U.S. National Academy of Sciences report on radiation cancer risk.
A massive outcry later forced the government to reverse the move.
[color=8AFB17]About a fifth of the 1,600 schools in Fukushima prefecture were exposed to at least 20 milliseiverts of radiation this year, according to a Bloomberg story in July. [...]
[color=8AFB17]We are witness to the end of civilization as we know it.
We are aware that the plan is being executed and our brothers and sisters world-wide are suffering now... are we next?
Of course we are - because we, the people, are everywhere!
How many of us know someone directly involved/affected by the multiple Japanese disasters of late?
We share a very small planet, and the bad guys want to take it away from us.
In closing, we share these thoughts from brother Robert Ghost Wolf.
[color=Cyan]The greatest thing we have for healing is the human spirit.
Spiritual Love is the answer. True knowledge is beyond words.
We are creating at this moment what our Tomorrow will be.
These challenges to life and sanity on this planet must be met with clear minds and sound hearts, so may your 2011 see you embracing its highest potential and onward through the fog!
We the people and governments of the world face an urgent and enormous challenge to deal with the threat of weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear weapons.
Pax Christi, the International Catholic peace movement, with over 100-member organisations active worldwide, with all of you, is profoundly concerned that nuclear weapons once again threaten the human community and the earth herself with catastrophic possibilities. With the World Council of Churches, the International Peace Bureau and other communities of faith, we have repeatedly and consistently called for nuclear disarmament on moral and ethical grounds.
The possession of nuclear weapons, their development, modernization and testing have been – and certainly are now – immoral and ethically untenable.
At stake is the survival of humanity and most likely of the earth.
Peace, sustainable human development and the integrity of creation must be given priority over an arms industry that monopolizes capital and perpetuates profound insecurity.
The sacredness of human life and the rest of creation make the development, maintenance, threats to use and use of nuclear weapons a deep affront to morality. The human community is obliged to redirect of our pursuit of security.
No one will be secure until we all are secure.
“Mexico, one of three Latin American nations that uses nuclear power, is abandoning plans to build as many as 10 new reactors,” (...)
James Williams, an economist at WTRG Economics, an energy research firm in London, Arkansas, said, “This is a very good decision by the Mexican government… ’You can build multiple (natural gas) plants at a much lower cost and much faster pace than a nuclear facility.’
“Nations around the world are also reconsidering plans for increasing their reliance on nuclear power after the March 11 earthquake in Japan that wrecked the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant,” according to Bloomberg.
“Increasingly, those forced from their homes as a result of the disaster, are fed up with the shroud of secrecy thrown over the Fukushima plant and the abandoned towns and villages where families had lived for centuries.”
The less media coverage there is, the more they worry that their plight will be forgotten—
and the less pressure there will be on Tepco to cough up proper compensation.
That appears to be one reason some are starting to take the law into their own hands and smuggling journalists into the forbidden zone.
The people who have been most affected by radiation from the Fukushima plant are workers,
both from Tepco and from subcontractors, who have been trying to bring the radiation-leaking plant under control.
In the nation's history, these workers rank second only to the victims of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in terms of their exposure to radiation, therefore the possibility cannot be ruled out that they will develop cancer.
Tepco and the central government must do their best to prevent workers' overexposure to radiation and take necessary measures should workers become overexposed to radiation.
[color=Chartreuse]It must not be forgotten that exposure to radiation has long-term effects on human health.
In the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings, the number of leukemia cases started to increase among bombing survivors two years after the bombs were dropped.
In the case of the 1986 Chernobyl accident, thyroid cancer began to appear among children several years after the disaster happened.
[color=3BB9FF]Particular attention should be paid to the health of children.
“Women representatives from all over Japan are camping in Kasumigaseki district in Tokyo to express their objection to the nuclear power plants in Japan in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.” (...)
The activists held banners saying We Are Anti-Nuclear, and Don’t Restart Nuclear Plants.
One of the banners said “Occupy Kasumigasaki,” the district in Tokyo where government buildings are concentrated.
The anti nuclear energy movement is gaining more support among Japanese civilian groups
[color=Chartreuse]as the crisis in the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plants has not been solved.
[color=Chartreuse]Reports bring daily news of radioactive leaks and contamination with materials such as radioactive cesium in various part of the country.
[color=3BB9FF]The anti-nuclear activists, however, are calling on the government to activate alternative and clean energy technologies and phase out the nuclear reactors.
UPDATE: Eye swelling a symptom of thyroid disorder -- I often hear how childrens' eyes become swollen after being in radiation-contaminated sandboxes, says Japanese organizer...
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by thorfourwinds
No nuclear power plants = no nuclear weapons... any questions?
Just one.. what? Thats not true.