Was Nagasaki Chosen Because Of Christian population?

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posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 04:19 AM
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There has been new recent disclosure about the sparing of Nagasaki from conventional USA bombing raids during WW2....the locals thought they were being spared due to the religion of a sizeable Christian population.

But alas they were being spared to demonstrate the majestic(sic) might of the Atomic bomb that would exterminate many women and children in the city later on.

It is interesting that Nagasaki had such a sizeable Christian population and that the USA decided they deserved special attention.

At that time the Jewish scientists integral in the atomic bomb development had expressed their qualms about bombing Japan, as they expected the Atomic Project would target Germany(also a Christian Nation).

Was the Nagasaki city that housed tens of thousands of Christian catholics offered as a appeaser to the Jewish scientists who had no beef with the Emperor worshipping Japanese?

It is certainly curious that these two incidents ...ie Jewish scientist displeasure at using the bomb against Japan as opposed to Germany was followed by the decision to Obliterate a Japanese city that housed a historically significant Christian(Catholic ) population.
I have not supplied links but they can be easily found...I suspect most ...do not know of Nagasakis history in relation to christian catholicism?

Vey disturbing.




posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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I believe Nagasaki was not the target but clouds over the original target made bombing impossible so Nagasaki copped it.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 04:35 AM
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why would any one expect the atom bomb to be used against germany in august 1945 ?



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 04:40 AM
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No. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were selected because the scientists did not want the bigger cities to be destroyed. The bombs were used as a warning:- "We are going to bomb you so you know who you messing with hya"



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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No. Nagasaki was chosen because it was one of the few cities that had not been burned to the ground already.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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That isn't true. The bigger cities had already been destroyed. Remember Japan had paper cities back then.

Tokyo was burned to the ground long before the atomic bomb was dropped. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were one of the few cities still standing. The Japanese were already on the verge of surrendering.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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why would any one expect the atom bomb to be used against germany in august 1945 ?


The Atomic Bomb Project lasted many years.....with scientists swapping masters more than once....remember many Atomic scientists were German ? Austrian by birth.

Most of them thought the Germans would be exterminated by the bomb not Japanese...as they perfected the technique.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
At that time the Jewish scientists integral in the atomic bomb development had expressed their qualms about bombing Japan, as they expected the Atomic Project would target Germany(also a Christian Nation).


The first bomb was tested on the 16/7/45 but Germany had already surrendered on the 7/5/45.... so why would they have wanted Germany bombed?


Was the Nagasaki city that housed tens of thousands of Christian catholics offered as a appeaser to the Jewish scientists who had no beef with the Emperor worshipping Japanese?


No


It is certainly curious that these two incidents ...ie Jewish scientist displeasure at using the bomb against Japan as opposed to Germany


How could it have happened? Check the dates


I have not supplied links but they can be easily found


no they cannot, you just made it up!



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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Deny Ignorance...I wrote this OP thread because I see something that needs explained.

I do not supply a link because I know the educated will find easily the facts.

The uneducated will need to try harder.. but Iam confident they will find a way.

Dresden in Germany ...was approximately as evil.

But burning alive civilian women and children screaming in agony as they die agonising hellish deaths that linger for seconds/minutes/hours or days/weeks /months/years is..... evil?

Yes we incinerated alive ...women and children with the bombs...not soldiers.

IN Nagasaki many were Christian catholics....chosen victims?.

edit on 4-11-2011 by Dr Expired because: Word alteration



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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From the New York Times posted August 07 1995:


KOKURA, JAPAN bypassed by A-Bomb

The American bomber was a B-29 named Bock's Car, and it was supposed to drop the world's first plutonium bomb on Kokura. Three times, Bock's Car passed over Kokura, bomb bays open, a hum in the cockpit signaling that the bomb was ready for release, the crew wearing the special goggles that were supposed to protect them from the flash of the atomic explosion.

But although the radar scope was locked on to Kokura, the orders were to drop the bomb only on visual identification of the huge arms factory that was the target.

A young man named Kermit Beahan peered through the rubber eyepiece of the bombsight, and he could see some of the buildings of Kokura and the river that ran by the arms factory, but the complex itself was blocked by a cloud.

So Bock's Car gave up on Kokura and went on to its secondary target, Nagasaki. Clouds also partly obscured Nagasaki, but not quite enough of it.

The plutonium bomb killed somewhere around 100,000 people in Nagasaki, and it was the most powerful blast the world had ever seen, significantly more so than the one three days earlier when a uranium bomb destroyed Hiroshima. Nagasaki was destined for the history books, and Kokura was forgotten.


New York Times


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posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
But burning alive civilian women and children screaming in agony as they die agonising hellish deaths that linger for seconds/minutes/hours or days/weeks /months/years is..... evil?


Germany should have thought of that before they started the war.

You are just a apologist for German actions in WW2


IN Nagasaki many were Christian catholics....chosen victims?.


No, and still waiting for your proof - which you seem unable to supply....



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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stop dancing and give up some citeation - because i have just looked it up anf its my opinion that you have ignored the difference between nagasaki city , and nagasaki prefecture when making your claims of the number of catholics

further you ignore the presene of mitsubushi [ were they not a valid target ? ]

lastly - nagasaki was the " plan b " target for the august 9th mission kokura was the primary target ,

so unless you wish to claim that " jewish scientists " manipulated the weather to create the 70% cload cover encountered by sweeney and his crew [ attack orders demanded visual aiming ]

if it wasnt for the cloud cover over Kokura , nagasaki would not have been bombed



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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Iam wrong sorry ....it never occurred, no Japanese were targetted because they were catholics/christians....Nagasaki was targetted because of cloud cover on the other possible target, Google will obfuscate any investigation on the Kermit Beahan guy.

No Jews were involved in the selection or bombing of Nagasaki...a historical and very obvious Christian/Catholic and unique city of Japan.

The bomb actually detonated visually straight above the citys catholic cathedral.

These people didnt worship the Japanese Hiritio as God, yet they were targetted and given Atomic attention.

All those guilty Catholic moms and children burnt alive or microwaved ...by the brave bombers ....who didnt want to risk death but inflicted it on civilian christian unarmed civilians .....lest they live.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
Iam wrong sorry


the first correct thing you have posted!


no Japanese were targetted because they were catholics/christians


Very true - and we are still waiting for the links backing up your silly claims - but you are unable to post any!



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 07:05 AM
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I heard from a friend who's father knew a guy that told him that Nagasaki was the target all along because the Japanese were about to unleash a secret weapon on the world that they had stored in that city. It seems that they had in fact captured Godzilla and were using mind control techniques on him and were just about ready to set him on America.
Makes about as much sense as the OP's post.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by habiff
I heard from a friend who's father knew a guy that told him that Nagasaki was the target all along because the Japanese were about to unleash a secret weapon on the world that they had stored in that city. It seems that they had in fact captured Godzilla and were using mind control techniques on him and were just about ready to set him on America.


Did you know that the same thing was happening to Mothra in Hiroshima - that is why it was targetted!



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Harry S. Truman. As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) can you say Armageddon children? White Sands, New Mexico. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. On the 13th mission of Enola Gay.



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Four military targets in Japan were chosen as targets to drop two atomic bombs. One of these cities, Kyoto, was removed from the list because of its religious and historical significance to Japan. The only city with a large population of Christians was chosen as a replacement even though it had far less strategic military significance.
The largest of the two bombs dropped on Japan was reserved for Christian Nagasaki, the city with the least military importance of the four. This city was chosen with the approval of President Harry Truman – a Past Grand Master of Masonry (both of his grandfathers had been Masons) – by Henry Stimson, the Secretary of War. Stimpson had been appointed to office by President Roosevelt, a Mason, who had chosen (or had been directed to choose) another Mason as Vice-President.



There seems to be a geometry involved as well in choosing targets. They may only work in certain geometry conditions best, ie hyperdimensional elements. Bruce Cathie is said to have written on this.

en.wikipedia.org...

There may have been connection to what they did and Mars. There was a far bigger reason than the 33 degree parallel, however its hard to gather information without a background in some of the mystery school aspects and their black op magical type science.


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"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. " - "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages." (William Leahy, Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman (“I Was There”, p. 441)
"Completely in charge in their marble homes and granite banks from which they rob the people of the world under the pretence of bringing them culture, Watch out, for ... they'll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces."(Jean Paul Marat (1743-1793), Swiss-born scientist and physician and actor in the French Revolution)
When U.S. President Harry S. Truman decided on his own to use the atom bomb, a barbarous weapon of mass destruction, against the Japanese civilian populations of the cities of Hiroshima and of Nagasaki on August 6 and on August 9, 1945, the United States sided officially on the wrong side of history. General Dwight Eisenhower, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe and 34th U.S. President from 1952 to 1960, said it in so many words: "...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing." (Newsweek, November 11, 1963). Between 90,000 and 120,000 people died in Hiroshima and between 60,000 and 80,000 died in Nagasaki, for a grand total of between 150,000 and 200,000 most cruel deaths.


Japan had already lost the war, and this action was barbaric, and seen that way by many. The two dates added up to 9's, or flip them for 6's, if you add all numbers but the 9's.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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RH: They accelerate particles to near light speed and bombard a target. This results in an output of particles that they examine. It's the 'collision' process. I am strongly becoming convinced that the nuclear tests, which we were told all these years were to "perfect weapons," had an objective of probing a whole new technology based on hyperspacial physics. Now, after the "war" is over, the French are banging off nuclear weapons at 19.5 degrees south latitude.

Q: What would be the objective of detonating weapons at these latitudes?

RH: According to this model, what the government is doing is exploring the dimensions of a kind of hyperdimensional physics that transfers information between dimensions, not only on a rotating hypersphere, a planet, but between other planets in the solar system -- perhaps even beyond. It takes a lot of energy to get an "echo."

Q: Does the geological activity in the Pacific "ring of fire" relate to these detonations?

RH: Well, in theory it has to. We are looking in our work at a geophysical model, and we are seeing a hyperdimensional tetrahedronal geometry (in the Earth). There have been a lot of earthquakes around the world occurring at 19.5 degrees. There was one just the other day west of Mexico City, while at the same time a hurricane was twirling around at 19.5 degrees in the Yucatan. The other morning, during an eclipse of the sun at dawn, there was a major earthquake in China at about 22.5 degrees. This is part of this model of physics. The question that everyone has been wondering is -- whether these nuclear tests are triggering geological activity. I can't give you a 100% certainty, but there does seem to be a time-lag of a few days, and a latitude pattern, that would strongly indicate that there is some kind of connection. Now, the next question is -- is it deliberate, or is it just inadvertent? Are the French totally unaware that they are triggering a tetrahedronal response pattern in the "ring of fire?" We aren't sure.
 


The French do a lot nulcear testing at the 19.5 degree parallel.

They could be done to trigger geological activities and I suspect the choices for targets also have something to do with the pole shift that is taking place.


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It is certainly curious that Japan, the first and only nation to be nuked - twice - in history is sometimes called 'the Land of the Rising Sun'. It can easily be rephrased as 'the land of Horus', 'land of the Sphinx', or 'land of Mars'. (Have you seen the Japanese national flag?) And if nuclear explosions are to be seen as artificial 'little suns', the two atomic bombs dropped there would even correlate with the 'double-lion'/'two suns'/'2-year cycle' theme. Further, it is interesting that the Sphinx/Aker is a form of Atum, which conjures up 'atom'.
We also find that the historic Hiroshima bombing (Aug. 6) took place on the day of Sirius' heliacal rising - i.e. the celestial event that used to herald the symbolic resurrection of Osiris! And then there is the intriguing fact that 'Hiroshima' means 'wide island' and 'Nagasaki' means 'long foreland'. Switched around, we would have the phrase 'Long Island', which of course is a key part of NYC, the city attacked twice on 9/11. It just happens that Long Island's latitude exactly matches Cydonia's (~40.8 N)! And of course, Manhattan - the heart of NYC - relates to 'Manhattan Project' that created the atomic bomb.


Here we have reference to what the Japanese symbols are, the "Land of the rising sun.", ie connection to Horus, and the 2 nukes are the little suns, so the symbology for the binary twin star system. Theres more.

I don't think the city was accidentally chosen, and this was probably planned in advanced, there has been buried scientific black op technology throughout the 1800's too.

In other words, the 3 cities states, in the world, are Washington, London's Crown and Banking area, and Rome. These 3 separate states, that don't pay taxes and have their own laws, CONTROL THE WORLD.

So, the Catholics or one of the Higher PTB, deliberately procurred a group of Christians for that area. "Will you sacrifice your heart to Jesus or the Sun?" Its all their twisted symbology. Of course the sun/sol is saturn to them.



posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
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In 1935, Paul Foster Case wrote: "Since the date, 1776, is placed on the bottom course of the pyramid [on the Great Seal], and since the number 13 has been so important in the history of the United States and in the symbols of the seal, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the thirteen courses of the pyramid may represent thirteen time-periods of thirteen years each." The 13 time-periods of 13 years each equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1776 to July 4, 1945 equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1945 to August 6, 1945 (Hiroshima) was 33 days.


This was not spontaneously decided or done, but then it could certainly be argued that the Wars themselves, and probably every major attack in them was pre-meditated crimes against humanity carried forth by the "wish they were elite but alas they're still in diapers, group".

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
Some of the significance of the numerology embedded in everything.
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posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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“1945 – 2011 is 66 years. 66 years before 1945 was 1879, the beginning of the Age of the Sun Archangel Michael.”
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” 66 years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and after this latest disaster and nuclear scare, the Japanese people are more than entitled to say to the nuclear lobby “Enough is enough! We will not go on down this path. Our nation is named after the sun. We shall not try to create an artificial sun. Instead, we shall gratefully accept what the Sun gives us and develop it in life-giving ways.”...

Our false pursuit of an Ahrimanic age of Light reveals a dirty dark shadow that covers our materialistic falsified worship on the altars of Ahrimanic deception from Hiroshima, Nagasaki through to Three-Mile Island, (Must See documentary Chernobyl), through deserts loaded with poison depleted uranium dust, to Fukushima Dai-ichi. (And you will please note ‘ichi’ and it’s relation to the I Am and the German word ICH – we have arrived at the dead-end of the I AM offered by Ahrimanic deceptions)


I think the rabbit hole runs very deep. Michael/Christ/Sun, and gnostic concepts are deeply engraved into this ritualistic sacrifice.





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