9,000 year old Caucasian mummy found in Nevada , page 2

reply to post by Hanslune

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The familial cultural structure of the Algonquin had many similarities with Viking culture. Striking ones. Completely ignored ones.

Originally posted by remyrange
If I remember correctly, this would not be the first time that a non-nativeamerican remains have been found. Anybody remember some of the others?

The Spirit Cave Mummy & Kennewick Man.
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One of the most complete ancient skeletons ever found, bone tests have shown the skeleton to be somewhere between 5650 and 9510 years old. These findings triggered a nine-year legal clash between scientists, the federal government and Native American tribes who claim Kennewick Man as their ancestor. The long dispute has made him an international celebrity. In February 2004, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that a cultural link between any of the Native American tribes and the Kennewick Man was not genetically justified, allowing scientific study of the remains to continue.

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Hanslune

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The familial cultural structure of the Algonquin had many similarities with Viking culture. Striking ones. Completely ignored ones.

Yes as do many other cultures; the claim is weak and not accepted. There was a lot of amateur research on the matter but it didn't survive a look see by experts.

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Hanslune

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The familial cultural structure of the Algonquin had many similarities with Viking culture. Striking ones. Completely ignored ones.

Oh boy. Here we go.

I've got an Abenaki friend who told me about how the St. Francis tribe ended up having blue eyes. (Blue-eyed Abenakis puzzled the hell out of the first French settlers.)

Several centuries before the first Western colonizers arrived; blue eyed blond haired men sailed up the St. Lawrence river. They invaded the village while the men were out hunting, and did the typical Viking thing. Nine months later, the women who survived had a generation's worth of blue-eyed children.

Of course, this event occurred far later than 8k years ago, but it illustrates how those sea routes may have been established at some point.

Oral tradition isn't the most reliable source ever, but it's a shame how it often gets completely overlooked.

Originally posted by mistermonculous

The familial cultural structure of the Algonquin had many similarities with Viking culture. Striking ones. Completely ignored ones.

Oh boy. Here we go.

I've got an Abenaki friend who told me about how the St. Francis tribe ended up having blue eyes. (Blue-eyed Abenakis puzzled the hell out of the first French settlers.)

Several centuries before the first Western colonizers arrived; blue eyed blond haired men sailed up the St. Lawrence river. They invaded the village while the men were out hunting, and did the typical Viking thing. Nine months later, the women who survived had a generation's worth of blue-eyed children.

Of course, this event occurred far later than 8k years ago, but it illustrates how those sea routes may have been established at some point.

Oral tradition isn't the most reliable source ever, but it's a shame how it often gets completely overlooked

It is a fact that the Norse got to North America and were there for some time. What they go up to is not certain. However one reason they left is that they were badly outnumbered by the Skaelings who archery was more than capable of stopping them with their leather and chain mail armour. Iron weapons are superior but don't account for numbers. When Europeans later encountered the Eastern Woodland Native Americans they soon came to respect their fighting skills.

'Blonde haired', Icelandic people today only have 30% blondes,60% of Norwegians and 50% Danes. Blue eyes runs from 40-60% in Scanda countries. It is always interesting that Norse are characteristed by this in such legends.

Its an interesting legend but was it an archaic or a later insert?


Hmmm if a population is half 'Norse' how many generations would have occured before the French showed up? That is a lot of Brown eyed and black hair genes against a very limited number of 'Norse' ones....

The problem so far is still how long have people been in the new world. and who were they.
they have found stone tools in Texas that date back 15,500 years.

Going on a average migration movement of 20 miles a year all the way from western Alaska you can come up with a guess when the first people arrived in Alaska.(Pre Clovis)

Then you tie in the site in Monte Verde Chile that is 14600 years ago and at 20 miles a year dates the first people entering Alaska at least 32,000 years ago. (Pre Clovis)

None of these sites have Clovis points found in there recoveries.(pre clovis people)
Nether have enough remains been found to group these people.

Then you have the Clovis people with there distinctive points
they started showing up around 12000 years ago in north and central America. and disappeared around 9,000 years ago. There is no evidence as to if these Clovis people came through Alaska or from another route. no Clovis points have ever been found in Alaska or on the other side in Asia.

The only points that are Clovis type not from the new world are found in France.

This shows at least three waves to people came to the new world.

Was the first wave pushed out of Asia by another people or did they migrate on there own and was where they were from filled by another people after they left. (pre Clovis)

Was the second wave another group from Asia pushed out or came on there own, Or from Europe(Clovis/Solutrean??) you have both the clovis points and the Clovis spear shaft wrench both found in Clovis sites and solutrean sites in France. and not found in asia.or alaska.

Did they push the first wave into south America and populate north and central America.????

Was the Clovis people of the second wave wiped out by a impact in north America??? (Clovis impact theory)
www.spacedaily.com...
lofi.forum.physorg.com...

Did the third wave of people (Folsom , Gainey, Suwannee-Simpson, Plainview-Goshen, Cumberland, and Redstone) come in a fill the areas of the almost wiped out Clovis people.????

Then you have the mystery of "Why did the chicken cross the ocean?"
www.cbsnews.com...

If the Polynesians were able to cross the pacific what would have stopped the Solutreans from crossing the Atlantic 1/3 the distance and were the Solutreans maybe the forefathers of the vikings.

This also does not cover the cocaine mummies found in Egypt and how cocaine from the new world got to Egypt
en.wikipedia.org...

The only way to tell what did happen is to study the remains and artifacts found of these people.

reply to post by mysterioustranger

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You (for some unknown reason) bring up "Bible Thumpers" and yet your signature is a quote from a Saint? Heh heh heh.

I think there are a lot of discoveries that cause confusion in scientists and those that are tied down by beliefs that preclude scientific evidence. Both sides have preconceptions and it is for us in the middle to figure out who is full of crap this time!

reply to post by ANNED

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Ok - this was a great post. I also really like your signature "Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

Here we go again.
The Indians claim everything, as if they were they only ones Ever to live here.
They have been a real road block in the attempt to sort archeological things out.
Spirt's journey, indeed. If the Sprit hasn't given up the body after 9000 years when will it?
I'd like to ask that guy why his folks have given up the fine weaving and needle work that was found with the skeleton.

9000 years is not that long in Earth's history.
Scientists have made a lot of assumptions which they have postulated as absolute Fact.
They hate more than anything to ever admit that they were mistaken or that they simply do not know.
They also assume that the world map to day is the same as it was 9000 or more years ago. Recent shifting of some islands due to some strong earth quakes should have caused them to think twice and more on the matter.
They should know that the Atlantic Ocean is getting wider, but also the Pacific is getting wider. It is past time for them to put a little flexibility into their practices.

That idea that all humans in the Americas had to have come over that Bering strait is getting really stale.
How about those anomalous Peruvian skulls....I wonder if they think that those people came over the Bering strait also. They won't even talk about them. The ones found in Malta are hidden away and many "lost".
The Peruvian skulls were put on exhibit only in recent years. This type is found all over the world. They were likely the "white people" that are legends in every culture thruout the world.
www.crystalinks.com...

reply to post by blueorder

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I'm not debunking anything.
I just noticed that thousands of years old "white man" has been found around the world and they don't fit in the mainstream history as taught in school.
There are the white red haired mummies that were found in the Takla Makan Desert in China, Kennewick Man, this one and King Tut was white too.

reply to post by QuietBeige

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If you read my response to you more closely..you will see I am in agreement with you. Dont pay attention to those who say it cant be possible.

And the "Saint Augustine" quote...relays the same thought. There are more unknowns out there. It was the quote I made available...and care little about whom may have said it.

They wouldn't show a picture of the body "out of respect for the dead" What the devil does that mean!?!?!??!?!??! What about the hundreds of museums with thousands of mummies and other "dead" people laying around on DISPLAY?!? What sort of hypocritical statement is this?

I have a theory of course. This mummy, like the other mummies found near Nevada, Utah, and other South Western States was most likely a giant. Probably 8 to 12 foot tall. All we were giving in the video was an artists drawing of the mummy thus hiding any sort of size comparison. This of course is just my opinion based on past treatments of giants found.

More info can be found here on the hundreds of similar giant finds, with Newspaper stories to back them up:
Giant Info

Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Hanslune

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The familial cultural structure of the Algonquin had many similarities with Viking culture. Striking ones. Completely ignored ones.

Yes as do many other cultures; the claim is weak and not accepted. There was a lot of amateur research on the matter but it didn't survive a look see by experts.

You realize that in every era the "experts" where eventually proven wrong? From dinosaurs, round planet, planetary alignments, plate tectonics, aerodynamics, space travel, physic's.. etc The experts have a long track record of being set straight by "amateur research's" making "weak claim's".

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