Why humans are better than Computers.

They have been using super computers to try to unlock
the secrets of protein folding and RNA synthesis.
but they have been getting no ware.
they use peoples home computers with things
like Seti that works from Boinc.
so Adrien Treuille came up with the idea to
use the People on the home computers.
and “The results have been staggering”
human beings are better than computers.
because they see patterns.
the human brain is made to see patters and use them.
it will take a long time for computers to catch up with humans.
and human evolution.

you to can Play games!
to aid the human race for real!
and just maybe cure aid's?

“Camden, Maine (CNN) -- Video gamers spend tons of time
-- for many it's 10,000 hours by age 21 -- battling mythic
monsters, shooting aliens and rescuing princesses from digital castles.

Adrien Treuille wants to put those efforts to better use.

The Carnegie Mellon computer scientist is the creator of
two online games -- Foldit and EteRNA -- that put
video gamers to work solving epic scientific puzzles.

His aim is to make super-boring-sounding scientific
mysteries like "protein folding" and "RNA
synthesis" fun and challenging for gamers.

The results have been staggering, as Foldit and EteRNA
players -- there are about 430,000 of them between
those two games, most of them playing Foldit -- continue
to make discoveries that had eluded scientists and their supercomputers.

Earlier this month, for example, Foldit players helped solve
a puzzle about proteins that could further research
into HIV/AIDS. Their work was co-published in the journal Nature.
Adrien Treuille designs video games that help players solve scientific puzzles.
Players know they're working on science puzzles, but the games are meant to be fun..”

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play Foldit

play EteRNA

Originally posted by buddha
They have been using super computers to try to unlock
the secrets of protein folding and RNA synthesis.
but they have been getting no ware.
they use peoples home computers with things
like Seti that works from Boinc.
so Adrien Treuille came up with the idea to
use the People on the home computers.
and “The results have been staggering”
human beings are better than computers.
because they see patterns.
the human brain is made to see patters and use them.
it will take a long time for computers to catch up with humans.
and human evolution.

you to can Play games!
to aid the human race for real!
and just maybe cure aid's?

“Camden, Maine (CNN) -- Video gamers spend tons of time
-- for many it's 10,000 hours by age 21 -- battling mythic
monsters, shooting aliens and rescuing princesses from digital castles.

Adrien Treuille wants to put those efforts to better use.

The Carnegie Mellon computer scientist is the creator of
two online games -- Foldit and EteRNA -- that put
video gamers to work solving epic scientific puzzles.

His aim is to make super-boring-sounding scientific
mysteries like "protein folding" and "RNA
synthesis" fun and challenging for gamers.

The results have been staggering, as Foldit and EteRNA
players -- there are about 430,000 of them between
those two games, most of them playing Foldit -- continue
to make discoveries that had eluded scientists and their supercomputers.

Earlier this month, for example, Foldit players helped solve
a puzzle about proteins that could further research
into HIV/AIDS. Their work was co-published in the journal Nature.
Adrien Treuille designs video games that help players solve scientific puzzles.
Players know they're working on science puzzles, but the games are meant to be fun..”

Link to stoiry

play Foldit

play EteRNA

Perhaps you may like to investergate the thought proccessing of the ASPY Sav/Ough given the average human has one Cd storage and proccessing the ASPY can have upto five all of which run idervidualy and in, totaly interactive directions backwards and forwards for the five simultaniously, and to this, there will never be a computer that has the logistical desition making capasity surrounding the anitial thought or the end sum sought

Nostradarmus , Newton Einstine Tesla Plank all ASPY and not educated in there specilized fields the power of the human mind to observe mother nature, is the secret to the power of all science,

Why humans are better? (Written by a human)

Totally not biased

Originally posted by rationalistswagger
Why humans are better? (Written by a human)

Totally not biased

I thought this was the beginning of an interesting thread ,instead, I find you want me to see some book of someone else Ideas of how intelligent they think they are, no wonder no one else has posted, as they must have known,and as far as not biased, biased against what, are you implying that your system is so mi shy mushy that it do sent cause any consternation's against the billions of other views out there

Mate you will have to come up with much better tactics than that to get some one to correspond, all be it I do to give you a serve

The human brain is a marvel of evolution over millions of years.
the brain uses the eye the most. we see shapes.
and we have to recognize the shapes very very quickly.
if we don't we are dead!

prey and predator have tried to trick each other.
and they have just evolved some more.
they can spot each other by just seeing a little part of them.

the human brain is the best at what it does.
that's why we are at the top.
and look at hand weighting.
can a computer read all that Doctors Wrights?

humans can do abstract art.
a computer would never thought of that.
because its just a mess.
I am not the best person to put this argument over very well.
I just hope you see what I am getting at.

something else a computer would find it hard to do.
understand something from minimal information.

Humans are better because computers take away jobs.
Just my thoughts.

Computer are retarded. They can't do anything unless a programmer walks them through it.

Computers are merely a tool. Much like hammers. A hammer cannot use itself. We don't need convincing that humans are better than hammers.

They have been using super computers to try to unlock
the secrets of protein folding and RNA synthesis.
but they have been getting no ware.

You might want to check that again. They discovered a lot from protein folding using super computers.

folding.stanford.edu...

Humans are better because computers take away jobs.

Isn't that the beauty of it? Then we can just focus on more important things and let the computers to the brute calculations for us. Sort of like how a jack-hammer replaced a greater number of people with a pickaxe. Machines are better than people at a lot of things, but again, they are just tools.

Of course, we need people to design the computers and program the software they run on

And you need a post to state the obvious? Currently, our technology is still woefully primitive, and quite incapable of adapting to change. Nothing biological lives it's life by binary rules. Nothing. That should say something. And for the record, binary code is a great way to store linear data. Pages and pages of "stuff". But is not capable of doing what simple bacteria have done for over 4 billion years. Adapt to change, learn from it and survive. Only when we design systems that are self organizing based on rules of nature can we hope to design real thinking machines. Well, I'm working on it and will let you know what happens.

reply to post by arbiture

Binary is just a number base, nothing more.

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by arbiture

 

Binary is just a number base, nothing more.

edit on 14-11-2011 by john_bmth because: (no reason given)

Simple silicon circuits that use binary as there form of operating are not capable of independent change. Binary is no more then a number base only if it was capable of greater self expression. As the the technologies exist today it can do nothing more.

Originally posted by arbiture

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by arbiture

 

Binary is just a number base, nothing more.

edit on 14-11-2011 by john_bmth because: (no reason given)

Simple silicon circuits that use binary as there form of operating are not capable of independent change. Binary is no more then a number base only if it was capable of greater self expression. As the the technologies exist today it can do nothing more.

How exactly can a number base be capable of "greater self expression"?

Originally posted by john_bmth

Originally posted by arbiture

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by arbiture

 

Binary is just a number base, nothing more.

edit on 14-11-2011 by john_bmth because: (no reason given)

Simple silicon circuits that use binary as there form of operating are not capable of independent change. Binary is no more then a number base only if it was capable of greater self expression. As the the technologies exist today it can do nothing more.

How exactly can a number base be capable of "greater self expression"?

It can't be. I state what I can based on the technology available at hand. It can only do what the technology allows us to do. And frankly the current technology is shockingly limited.

Well, think of it this way.

Compare a brain to a computer. Processing power, and storage space.

It's really hard to put a brain's storage size into computer terms, but educated guesses have been made between 500-1000 Terabytes.

As for processing power, educated guesses have been made comparing the brain to a processor of 20,000 MHz to over 100,000.

Find a computer with those specs, that fits in a case the size of your head.

As of yet, no computers that we know of are as powerful as the human brain, pound for pound as it were.

Although, one being "better" than the other completely depends on the task being done. Controlling a human body, learning, and growing? The human mind is much better. Doing boring calculations and simulations? A computer is much better. It all depends...

reply to post by James1982


A computer is universal computing machine, nothing more. No matter how powerful a computer is, a slower computer can compute the same thing. It's not a question of power but of limitations. Computers compute, they can't think. You can simulate thinking, but that's about it.

Originally posted by 547000
Computer are retarded.

I like this..... it makes me smile.

Humans are better then computers except for the whole Computers never committing genocide or starting wars or being racist or raping others or taking others people land.

I mean if you just take every bad awful thing human beings done over there existence , humans really are better then computers. Though when you add in the whole agent orange , terrorism , cannibalism , pedophilia , lynching people because of the color of their skin and fascism, thing. It kind of skews the results in the favor of the computers. Like completely in their favor.

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reply to post by Reptius


If a computer can be morally judged so can a hammer and a knife. Knives are pure evil.

Computers only give out what you put in, If they are given the power to effect us then it'll be the responsibility of the guys who press the button. worst case scenario head of intel rigs his mind up to a pc and knocks the power out!