The secret of ancient Viking navigation was transparent crystals, page 1
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Topic started on 3-11-2011 @ 11:28 AM by PhoenixOD


Before the invention of modern navigational equipment, ancient sailors crossed the seas largely through their knowledge of the positions of the Sun and stars. So how did Vikings cross from Europe to America in the often foggy, cloudy northern Atlantic?

There's no real way that Vikings could have crossed such tremendous distances - they were probably second only to the Polynesians as far as ancient navigators go - without being able to consistently rely on knowing where the Sun and stars were. Viking legends speak of a "sunstone" that allowed their sailors to figure out celestial positions even in deep fog. However, archaeologists have long struggled to find proof of any such device...until now.

Researchers at the University of Rennes in France have put together all the experimental and theoretical evidence they could muster, and they're pretty sure they know exactly what this sunstone was. It was, in fact, a transparent calcite crystal known as Iceland spar. It's found all over its namesake country, and Vikings could have used it to depolarize light, which means the crystal is able to split light along different axes.

The secret of ancient Viking navigation was transparent crystalsHow is that useful for navigation? Well, Viking sailors simply had to place a dot on the top of the crystal and then look up at it from below. The incoming light would hit the dot and seemingly duplicate it. That optical effect, amazingly enough, was all ancient navigators needed to locate the Sun, even when it was completely hidden from view.




Lead researcher Guy Ropars explains:

"Then you rotate the crystal until the two points have exactly the same intensity or darkness. At that angle, the upward-facing surface indicates the direction of the Sun. A precision of a few degrees can be reached even under dark twilight conditions...Vikings would have been able to determine with precision the direction of the hidden Sun."

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Thats a truly ingenious invention and like all the best inventions its totally simple. Maybe they were not such barbarians after all


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reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 11:36 AM by Flavian
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Also why they took ravens with them on voyages - let them out to see what they do. If they fly off, follow them as land is that way and if they return to ship you know you are miles from any land.

Harmony with the natural surroundings - seems to be something we have lost



reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 11:38 AM by Flavian
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Also, did the Phoenecians not use something similar (can't remember if it was a similar type crystal or something more, well, mechanical) to navigate and that was a thousand years and more before the vikings?


reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 11:52 AM by mr10k
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Agreed. Oh man how lost we have become that if we lost access to google we wouldn't be able to function


reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 11:58 AM by blah yada
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Viking ships and Phonecian ships bear more than a passsing resemblance to one another. To be honest, I would have thought that both civilisations would have used something more sophisticated than crystals, but I am intrigued to hear about Phoenicians using them too. I've long suspected that Vikings gained their boatbuilding from Phoenicians travelling northwards up the river systems of continental Europe.


reply posted on 4-11-2011 @ 05:45 AM by Flavian
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There is already evidence (for example at L'Anse Aux Meadows) that the Vikings made it North America so we definitely know that Eiriks Saga is correct
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