Eisenhower’s Rocket to Mars: ‘Secret’ Martian Colony Mission Revealed; Former CIA ‘UFO’ Sc

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There are many a fantasy tale written in the annals of history, and the Internet is one of the fastest ways to spread them......

Yet there were a number of fantasy religious tales written, which spread across the world way before the introduction of the internet.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there is some truth in this. But, allowing these obvious dis-info agents to get involved is a way of de-bunking it. You can't win can you?

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to be honest cobaltic1978 you believe everything you read... and anyone who goes against that, your automatic reply is disinfo agent or some other similar snidey comment.

before you do make these comments, you should take a little time and effort and actually do a little research into the story yourself rather than just believe every word in the op..

until then your accusations and words have little to no substance..

in fact if i am to be honest, people like yourself (and a few others here) are the exact opposite of a disinfo agent (dont know if there is a name for them) and do as much harm in us finding the truth as the disinfo people do (although obviously in a different and opposing way)

Lots of info OP, but I am ether missing a lot or not looking in the right places as I don't really see anything resembling a "plan" other than a little wishful thinking about space exploration (lots of that during the time).
Even our smartest German led 'space team' couldn't get a rocket off the pad for a long time!
When I was a child in the 50'and 60's there was always talk from the president about us expanding and colonizing the moon, mars, etc.
What is news here? What am I missing?

reply to post by Misterlondon


Okay, that old chestnut!!

You're getting in the way of us real truth seekers?

I was pointing out the fact that it is sometimes easier to get dis-info agents involved in a conspiracy, to make such ludicrous claims, in an effort to purposefully riducule a conspiracy theory. It's a good way to kill a conspiracy.

I wasn't calling any member a Shill or a Troll by the way. Please re-read my post. Cheers.

Originally posted by OldCorp
This is extremely interesting to say the least. Check out this strange tidbit I found buried in one of the articles:

Writing for The National Interest, Eisenhower explained, “I have decided I can no longer be a registered Republican…This was not an endorsement of the Democratic platform, nor was it a slap in the face to the Republican Party. It was an expression of support specifically for Senator Barack Obama…Source: Bekow's Rocket to Mars story.

A lifelong Republican, who doesn't support the Democratic platform, throwing her support behind Barack Obama. Am I the only one smelling something a bit fishy? Does she know something we don't know?

Not surprising at all. The Alinsky style Progressives are and have been for decades in both Parties. They started taking over the schools in the 1960's and pretty much have complete control of the Universities now. Their plan is pretty detailed and they are sticking too it. They have lots of patience. That's why I've separated myself entirely from any connection to any Party. They are what drove me away from the Peace Movement in my youth. They are the true Illuminati if you will. The nonsense about the Illuminati and the New World Order are just diversions and no doubt they love how it diverts attention away from them.

You've likely seen the video that got out of Obama teaching Alinsky to our children and all the organizations he worked for are connected. Marxists are a tight knit bunch. Controlling the Universities makes it easy for them to indoctrinate and quietly take over. Freedom a precious and short lived thing. There are always these groups who want to take complete control of everyone and form a society of slaves under the guise of Socialism which even they don't actually believe in.

My opinion of course, but the evidence is overwhelming. They don't need to hide it because people refuse to believe it. Obama was hand picked years before anyone heard his name. No doubt right now they are rigging the election. I'm starting to believe Romney is their man in the Republican Party. He's clearly a Progressive pretending to be Republican. They have their bases covered. They will make sure he wins the Primaries.

Back on topic -

Interesting post, I'll most certainly spend the weekend going through it. Maybe though, Mars is not actually about Mars but a cover phrase? This could lead to something entirely different. These folks have been well organized since the fifties.

Have you seen/heard of 'Alternative 3'. Broadcast in 1977 in the UK? It was a 'spoof' documentary about the brain drain the UK was suffering in the 70's. Part of a weekly program called Science Report.

The stories are similar. A lot of people since have thought it might have been something of a whistle blower? Although it is a spoof IMO, but you never know?

en.wikipedia.org...

Where is the full story?

@Cobaltic1978

I wouldn't go as far to say that Lockheed has developed all the technology that Star Trek has presented in their works.
I personaly know a 'higher up' in the research and developement side, especially that of 'electrical engineering at Lockheed', we have had many conversations about theoretical applications of current and future technology. Although he would let me lead many of the conversations, and obviously not to share anything that could get him into trouble. It appeared to me, that Lockheed is on pace with current technology(as far as what's available, not application), and that quantum technology is the key to much of the theoretical applications of such Star Trek style tech.

I will state this though, there is some interest(only saying that because of the paths many conversations went down) in quantum entanglement, non-locality and the plausibility of not 'time-travel' per say, but through reverse engineering the cosmos and knowing how it all fits, being able to then manipulate the universe as a whole. This as well goes into changing or manipulating through the building blocks predispositions of consciousness and altering thought process in such a way that 'information' may be sent to and through people in order to insure the continuance of humanity. It's kinda hard to explain, with out just blurting everything out there. This is a field of research in which many have spent sleepless nights over.

I'm not all that well versed, like those in the field of quantum engineering and such, so when we spoke of such things, it was more or less just me blurting out theoretical applications and him telling me I was wrong 90% of the time LOL. That's not to say that much of what I did have to say wasn't thought to have been entirely plausible... again, it's all just theory for now. Like that of the non-sense of the Higgs Boson, but that's a whole nother bread of ignorant, subjective ramblings.

By the way, this application IS FAR from being a reality... there's soo much theory behind it, that I personally feel that it's a waste of time even attempting to discuss any further until true quantum computing comes about.
Here's the paradox though, just by simply theorizing, and the technology being developed, this would imply that it has already been done in the future. And that, those in the future have already been manipulating the past. But then you throw in the grandfather paradox, and you get a whole host of issues that a seemingly logical person could use in justification of denouncing such possibilities.

For now, I'd suggest that we are 'Stuck' in time... Or are we?!?

Interesting to note, I at one time spoke with a gentleman who claimed much of this is true, and that much of it was relayed to Abraham Lincoln, which was then relayed to JFK and Barrak Obama...
Some interesting connections between Abe and Obeezy can be found here....
www.reobama.com...

I tend to enjoy reality, so I don't usually entertain such silliness, but it's interesting to think about I suppose.

Oh yeah, back tot he topic.... I would suggest Lockheed is FAR FROM HAVING SOME CRAZY TECHNOLOGY, just up to date technology, with AMAZING applications.
Remember... no quantum computer, no crazy technology... I will leave it at that.

Originally posted by wulff
Lots of info OP, but I am ether missing a lot or not looking in the right places as I don't really see anything resembling a "plan" other than a little wishful thinking about space exploration (lots of that during the time).
Even our smartest German led 'space team' couldn't get a rocket off the pad for a long time!
When I was a child in the 50'and 60's there was always talk from the president about us expanding and colonizing the moon, mars, etc.
What is news here? What am I missing?

me too, very misleading title.

Can you make a youtube video of all, its to mush to read

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Thanks for that!!

You have put my mind at rest. I will look at the link you provided cheers.

Originally posted by Gloster
Can you make a youtube video of all, its to mush to read

Why are you posting if you're too lazy to do any research for yourself? This is not school. The OP's point is fairly clear and all you need to research it appears to be in the OP.

Could be crap, could be on to something. Sometimes you have to do the research yourself if you care about it at all. It's in Skunkworks for a reason. Not like school where they just pass you on to get rid of you, in real life you have to do the work for anything worthwhile.

I found the link terribly difficult to follow. The author seemed to be jumping all over the place without settling anything. A good story needs a good story teller so that the reader can follow the train of thought. This particular story is going to have a difficult time getting off the ground because it is so convoluted.

Nevertheless, there are some great links off the story and I thank you for providing it.

I NEVER do this, but i'm just going to throw this out there, to mess with some heads

www.youtube.com...
RUSH LIMBAUGH EXPOSES LIFE ON MARS?

Uh oh, No He Didn't!!!

BTW, it's in regards to the Gore Report, Life on Mars, DNA of Royal and Bush families... Straight from the mouth of Rush Limbaugh.... WELCOME TO THE TWILIGHT ZONE(que music!)

And this is were it get Crazy !

I may be that Astronaut Gene Cernan was telling the Truth Subconsciously After All! (around 1:49 mark )

OOPS, I DID IT AGAIN!" Former NASA astronaut slips off his tongue AGAIN, about secret missions.



well then we have Buzz Aldrin saying this ! A BIG BIG WTF!!????

Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars Moon


AND!!! there is My Thread!!!

Buzz Aldrin's Dream ,Helium 3 and Lunar Resource Base, page 1
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There are real commercial activities that private enterprises could develop on the moon as well: Helium 3 can be mined, and heavy metal meteorites could be a source of rare earth metals. And the presence of water ice would make great rocket fuel — and rocket fuel is gets us to Mars. Aldrin thinks that base could form part of a transportation infrastructure that would enable us to get to near Earth objects such as asteroids, Martian moon Phobos, even Mars itself and beyond.

The space legend, who is launching a new think tank called U.S.S. Enterprise — which stands for Unified, Strategic, Space Enterprise — believes NASA should think about all of the planets for the most efficient travel across the solar system. And a key item for America should be a permanent base on Phobos.

There may BE One Already there !

Richard Dell Jr.’s stated goal: leverage private investment to build a colony of human explorers on Mars, by developing Miley’s nuclear rocket engines.

Nuclear thermal rocket
en.wikipedia.org...

A nuclear engine was considered for some time as a replacement for the J-2 used on the S-II and S-IVB stages on the Saturn V and Saturn I rockets. Originally "drop-in" replacements were considered for higher performance, but a larger replacement for the S-IVB stage was later studied for missions to Mars and other high-load profiles, known as the S-N. Nuclear thermal space "tugs" were planned as part of the Space Transportation System to take payloads from a propellant depot in Low Earth Orbit to higher orbits, the Moon, and other planets.

Project Orion (nuclear propulsion)
en.wikipedia.org...


Project Rover
en.wikipedia.org...

Eisenhower's Rocket to Mars: 'Secret' Martian Colony Mission Revealed; former CIA 'UFO' scientist cited
www.starpod.org...


The question is if any of these are true and Man some how did Land or Orbit around
Other planets in Our Solar System The question is of How can it be Done from Prying Eyes
of the Public where could this Happen , in what location is it possible from being Undetected ! ?

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

funny how eisenhower made a treaty with a E.T race also.

time for the hoak BIN yet?

Originally posted by MamaJ

Originally posted by OldCorp
This is extremely interesting to say the least. Check out this strange tidbit I found buried in one of the articles:

Writing for The National Interest, Eisenhower explained, “I have decided I can no longer be a registered Republican…This was not an endorsement of the Democratic platform, nor was it a slap in the face to the Republican Party. It was an expression of support specifically for Senator Barack Obama…Source: Bekow's Rocket to Mars story.

A lifelong Republican, who doesn't support the Democratic platform, throwing her support behind Barack Obama. Am I the only one smelling something a bit fishy? Does she know something we don't know?

HA! Maybe Obama isn't an Earth citizen after all. This information blows my mind. I know anything is possible...but WOW. How does he fit in, I wonder.

That explains the fake birth certificate, fake social security numbers... Barry Sotoro

Sotoro is actually his native alien name

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The problem with all this exotic technology is not exactly the construction of the vehicle/device but the power source or to be precise creating enough energy to power them. I also read someone mentioning a teleporting system, this again is theoretically possible but has one huge flaw in it. To teleport a living object from A to B you would need to destroy every atom in their body to recreate it somewhere else, in essence creating a clone of the original being.

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An info-agent

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