Intoxication in general is escape from reality even in minor amounts to "loosen up" which translates into (I don't want to face the causes of my social insecurities nor do I want to address them, but I'd rather just be intoxicated so I don't care). But if it wasn't Alcohol, it would be drugs, and if not those, then they would just go see a shrink to get some happy pills. If not that, then video game addictions or inane television shows. Or maybe they will form an addiction to sex or some extreme, dangerous sport. If not that, maybe they would spend all their time online chatting away, or posting on conspiracy theory forums and getting a rush from thinking the world is going to end tomorrow and the CIA is trying to mind control them with radio waves. Maybe they would form an addiction to working out and become some massive pile of muscle. The list goes on.

The real issue is not the dangers of alcohol. Junk food, unclean air, and unclean water are far more dangerous to us all than alcohol will ever be even if nobody wants to admit it. You are far more likely to die from one or all of these in your life than you are of alcoholism or an alcohol related accident. The real issue is that people have no idea how to cope with reality, with their issues, with this world. They are not brought up in a healthy way, they are not taught anything about how to approach their psychological and existential problems, and almost all of the authority figures in ones life are just as clueless even if they pretend not to be.

People would rather drink to relax than learn how to master themselves so they can relax at will at any time of the day without intoxicants. People don't know how to have fun without being inebriated because they have lost the inner child. But its also human nature to often take the path of least resistance.

Originally posted by Seventhdoor

People would rather drink to relax than learn how to master themselves so they can relax at will at any time of the day without intoxicants. People don't know how to have fun without being inebriated because they have lost the inner child. But its also human nature to often take the path of least resistance.

thats not a fair thing to say. I can relax at will without intoxicants. I can also relax without music and without a full body massage and without sex and without video games and without Television as well as without booze. But i utilize all the pleasures in life.

Bottoms up to those who have will power. Go to a meeting for those who don't.

Its not based on my personal issues, I was one of MANY. Allah forbid you people ever have a child killed by a drunk driver, my how your tune would change!!!!!!

Originally posted by AllUrChips
Its not based on my personal issues, I was one of MANY. Allah forbid you people ever have a child killed by a drunk driver, my how your tune would change!!!!!!

Different tracks now, but i'll tackle this one.

NOTE - my life has NOT been directly affected by a drink driver, however i have seen the aftermath of incidents involving alcohol, and to which i do NOT wish these memories on anyone. Nor do i wish anyone’s lives to be impacted by a loss due to people being under the influence of any substance(s).

Moving on -
If you want to blame the 'product' then we take another look at it:
* Ban guns
* Ban sporting equipment
* Ban bricks
* Ban cars
* Ban rocks
* Ban clothes
* Ban groups larger than 2 being in public

All of these can be a catalyst of disaster, pretty much lock EACH of us up in a little padded room, and never let us out, or eat anything solid (choking risk).

A famous wise person once said : "(insert object/substance) dont murder, people do".

Again food for thought.

Originally posted by AllUrChips

Originally posted by ShedAlert
That is also the theory of the majority of people. It's pretty blatant as to why it isn't illegal, and you've pretty much averagely summed it up.

Sorry in all my ramblings I forgot to mention I think it should be ILLEGAL, sorry for the mistake

Stop imposing your moral shortcomings on the rest of the world.

If I choose to brew my own beverages or distil my own from said brew, it's none of your damn business. Get out of my living space, and sort yourself out.

You do not control me with your thoughts, so your opinion that a vice should be illegal is nothing short of you wanting to control me and my actions, when they have nothing to do with you.

Alcohol has been a part of society for thousands of years it would be like making sex illegal !! I think more money and resources go towards education and treatment centers . Alcohol ruined my life and more importantly hurt my family and friends . AA was my saving grace but I won't go preaching that alcohol should be banned . The media and advertising plays a big role in how we view alcohol consumption and that should be looked at !

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. ~Author unknown, commonly attributed to Benjamin Franklin

Your right it has been around thousands of years and for thousand of years it has been keeping people dumbed down and following the norm. To all of you who say ban guns, ban cars..... THOSE THINGS dont make you act stupid and beat your loved ones. It not just about the dui thing its about ALL the crime and I assure you smart alecy people that MANY MANY cases of abuse stem from this Much of it not even reported, usually til its too late! Use your heads people.

Originally posted by AllUrChips
From the homeless man on the corner, to the high level exec who kills someone in an auto accident, to the middle class man that beats his wife and kids all because of this legal TAXABLE poison.

And I am quite passionate about THIS:

No man ever beat anybody just because of alcohol. A man may beat somebody more severly while they are drunk, but the have the capacity to do it without alcohol to begin with.

Quit fooling yourself!