Israel punishes Palestinians For Independence Move

reply to post by g146541


Yes, I should have ignored him, my bad.
I have thrown him a crumb and he has returned, i won't
make he same mistake twice.

israel running scared.. once palestine is recognised as a state israelis can be arrested and tried for warcrimes , genocide and crimes against humanity that make nazi's look like saints..

Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776

Originally posted by rigel4

A Godly man you most certainly are not.

Untrue, he is doing exactly as his "God" commands him to do. Read the Torah a bit and you will know that their religion (as well as that of the Muslims) tells them that they are the "master race" and all people are supposed to be subjugated under them. Religion is at the heart of the greatest struggle of our age. This conflict will never end until their religions crumble into nothing but a stain on the pages of history.

Religon may be at he heart of the struggle, but it is BS to say the Torah says the Jews are a "master race" - they are certainly supposedly the chosen of god, etc., but there is nothing in there about them lording it over anyone else...well appart from butchering Canaanites in order to get a hold of their chosen land of course.

Judaism is actually the least "imperial" of the monotheistic religons - it's precepts are basically "sod off and leave us alone & we'll get on with waiting for our messiah" - it's the other ones that insist on trying to convert, save & rule everyone else in the world!

In seriousness, I think Israel sees any of these arrangements as a losing deal. Their mindset is the more they give up, the more they will be asked to give, and I don't think they're wrong. Maybe there was a time long ago when a peaceable settlement was possible, but given that the last thirty years or more have served only to enflame tensions, both through Palestinian propaganda and Israeli actions in combination, I doubt the Arab world will ever be okay with having Israel and Palestine co-exist.

Neither side is innocent. The Israelis are subjugators. The Palestinian leadership are manipulators. And both parties in power rely upon using this conflict for their personal and political betterment.

It's why I've thought the two-state solution was a guaranteed path to failure, because the places they will disagree about holding have much more resonance for both sides than just another piece of land, and therefore any peace is doomed to be temporary.

I hate my own conclusion, but this situation will never be resolved until one state occupies the whole of that territory, and though I'd love to see that happen through peaceful means, I am nearly 100% certain it will not happen that way.

Macbeth said it best: "If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well. It were done quickly."

Here come more rockets!!

Originally posted by pilot70
reply to post by rigel4

 

Just as they should .... those arabs should go back to their own places ....

Nothing to see here ... move along

You mean Palestinians go back to Palestine! That's a good idea....hang on a minute, the Isrealis won't let them will they. In fact they even renamed the country from Palestine to Isreal. DUH. You are either being purposely provocative or haven't a clue!

Originally posted by rigel4
Israel is the Worlds biggest problem and I want to know
what you guys think, in terms of how do we sort this out.

Unrest in the middle east, it's been there since the dawn of civilization. If you think we can "sort this out" you greatly underestimate the thousands of years of hatred they've all developed for each other over there.

reply to post by rigel4

Israel has right now two choices to make. They either continue down this Nazi path to the inevitable conclusion, which in my opinion will be a general war in the middle east, possibly global, or they get rid of this Nazi arrogant man, and his cronies.They then need to do some real soul searching and reach out not just to the Palestinians, but their Arab neighbours in general.

could this be why they are upgrading their second strike ability (nuclear armed subs) and converting their intercontinental delivery systems to transcontinental delivery systems?

could it be that the writing is on the wall, and they have already made their decision as to the "Palestinian Problem"? could it be possible that Israel sees it's stranglehold on world policy, specifically in the US government, slipping to the point that they might actually lose support?

They've already stated at if push came to shove, they'd take us all with them. with this new move over to transcontinental nuclear missiles, the world can no longer sit idly by pretending Israel doesn't have nukes. They do. And, if allowed, they will have the ability to launch a nuclear attack anywhere on earth. Arguably with subs they already do, but this would mean their conventional delivery systems could also hit US in North America.

Who exactly does Israel assume to be their enemy? If it's the Arab nations, they do not need the ability to fire a nuclear missile from Tel Aviv into Washington. But, if as I suspect, all of us are perceived enemies eventually, this move makes sense.

Israels leaders know what they have done and are doing is wrong. They know that the more the world learns of the reality of the situation, the less support they will have internationally. This is clearly the case right now. Maybe they are already planning for the time when they have to come after us.

If any other nation was treating an occupied segment of the population the way the Israelis treat the Palestinians, there would be massive support for an intervention/invasion. But this is Israel, and we are not allowed to criticism their actions or question their motives lest we be labeled antisemites.

The US invaded Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction. Saddam didn't have any, and even if he did, he lacked the ability to strike the US. Iran does not have the ability to strike the US, but the war drums are beating.

Just ask yourself what the US response would be if one of those arab nations decided to build transcontinental delivery systems for their clandestine nuclear weapons program as a "defensive" measure.

What exactly do you think would happen?

NUCLEAR ARMED ROGUE STATE = INVASION

Yet I'm supposed to support Israel? While they build the weapons ability to hit me in my home country, I'm supposed to support them while they punish the Palestinians for doing exactly what the Jews did to create Israel in the first place?

If Israels enemies and would be attackers are the Arab nations, that just so happen to occupy land Israel wants, why do they need the ability to fire a nuke from Europe to North America?

Any Israeli-firsters want to explain? I'm going to be forced to assume it's related to Obama the secret socialist muslim and his evil master plan of bringing every muslim on earth to america to destroy it from within.

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If you politically disagree with the moderators you are apperently censored on this board.

Thinking that muslims trying to move into non-muslim terriotory is bad - like palestinians - whatever that is - moving into israel - should it result in a warning ? ... I think some moderators are misusing their privileges to further their own political agenda.

Islam is an ideology, and worse than nazism ... that is my political oppinion .. and keep censoring and warning me about that .. you will never keep me silent .... maybe on this board but thruth can never be hidden