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reply posted on 19-4-2003 @ 01:48 PM by dragonrider
But since you mentioned it, here is the known Clinton Body Count (Unless you wish to say that these people didnt die?)

The Clinton Body Count


A number of people connected to Bill Clinton have turned up dead.

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Was James McDougal Murdered In A Federal Prison To Silence Him?

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The Botched Ron Brown Investigation
An Interview with AFIP Forensic Photographer Kathleen Janoski
by Wesley Phelan
Vince Foster - Former white House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Snippets From The Vince Foster Death Investigation
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just as she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Mary C. Mahoney and Eric Butera

Was this just a robbery gone bad? - See: Starbucks Suspect Faces Host of Charges By Bill Miller Washington Post, August 5, 1999



C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser: Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an aparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living roon with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant - Sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena arkansas airport drug operation. Controversal case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. see: The Train Deaths - plus some comments from a mother of one of the boys about the connection to Bill Clinton..

THE FOLLOWING SEVEN PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

76 deaths as a result of the government siege on the Branch Davidians coumpound at Waco Texas. [Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum: Death]
April 19, 1995 - bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City results in the death of 168 people


www.zpub.com...


reply posted on 21-4-2003 @ 03:44 PM by romantico
Nixon's crime was Sewrious!Clinton got a blow job.Its like comparing apples & oranges.Ken Starr was not part of the Clinton Administartion.With Reno you couldn't win.If she picked someone who was to easy with Clinton,the right would be bitchin about that!Theres no way to win(I never liked Reno nor did Clinton)You CAN NOT ignore his popularity.The people showed the right wing that they were more concerned with Clinton as President,not as a husband!His numbers & popularity say ALOT!Clinton & Hilary were cleared on Whitewater because they did NOTHING WRONG!Its funny how the Clinton Haters claim they know more than the lawyers!They know all the dirt on Clinton but they can't prove it!There was no evidence against Hilary & YOU KNOW IT!If there was,she'd be behind bars!The right wing saw the Clintons with pure evil venom & they would stop at nothing to make sure they were humilated & behind bars.THEY FAILED ON ALL COUNTS!Sorry Astrocreep,but you are WRONG!Your blinded by your Clinton rage to see the facts!

Thomas,I'm not saying the guy is a saint,but he's no where near as guiltry of the charges I hear about him.SOme are just so stupid I feel embarassed for those who Spew it out.I can not stand Bush,but I also know theres alot of sh*# about him thats not true!There will always be dirt on a President.No matter who it is!If Jesus Christ ran for office,there would be lies about him spread around by his enemies.I find it funny how I listed some links about the Bush body count vs.the Clitnon Body count & no was has the Balls to challenge it!Both are bogus,yet all people want to do is prove how right the Clinton list is & how wrong the Bush list is! Snopes has debunked ALL THE CLINTON Myths!Yet no one dares go there! Snopes also has debunked many of the Bush myths so they can't even claim its a bias web site.Its all so one sided.

I can say GREAT things about Reagan & Bush sr.& hell, even Nixon.I'm a Democrat & can't stand either of the 3 names mentioned above,but they dod do some great things.I am able to put aside my politcal difference & focus on what they accomplished in office.Clinton haters CAN NOT do this & I find this pathetic!They feel if they say anything positive about Clinton,they have betrayed their little group Of Clinton haters.Its impossible to reason with them.Astrocreep spews all this stuff about Clinton.However,when I challenge it with a site from Snopes or any other fact or news site,I'm all wrong!You don't want the truth.You want the news catered to your likeing to fit your beliefs.If theres a bump in the road & something ill is mentioned about "your Guy",you turn on the defense,cloud your judgement, & start blaming Clinton for EVERYTHING!

Clinton is well liked & respected worldwide.Its a fact & I can prove it.Clinton is not the evil monster you make him out to be or want him to be.If he was,the reich wing would have finished him off.Keep talking, I'll keep laughing!


reply posted on 22-4-2003 @ 07:26 AM by astrocreep
DragonRider, I agree. Hell, I don't hate Clinton, I voted for the guy twice but I have to admit to the facts too. This guys just refusing to see the truth about who's payroll Ken Starr was on and how many people in Ark bought property that didn't exist. he states that I think i know more than the lawyers like lawyers were against the Clintons? Hell, Clintons both were lawyers and pushed through more legislation to help lawyers sue than anyone has. No lawyer in their right mind would go against their own cash generator. It wasn't private lawyers that investigated them , it was the state and fed govs. both of which were under the direction of the administration it was investigating. How the hell am I wrong to say he broke the law when he , himself admitted on national TV that he did perger himself. He looked right into the camera and apologized for it. Surely somebody out there has it on tape. The media ran it for days. Where was this guy during all this? Did he not here the statement made by the Whitewater invest. committee last year about having the evidence to bring charges but doubting they could get a conviction. I never said they had her dead to rights, I just quoted the results of the invest. and he tells me I'm wrong? Who is this guy, Fritz Hollings? Robert Byrd? Is he that detatched from reality that he refuses to admit things that were widely televised? I'm not talking theories here. This stuff actually rolled out of Clinton's mouth himself. To refuse to think its true is to doubt Mr. Clinton himself, not me. And reguardless of what he thinks, Ken Starr was paid from the Att. Gn's office by Miss Janet Reno. Crimes were commited in the Whitewater scandal. Just ask Bill and Susan McDougal...oh I'm sorry, ya can't really do that can ya? I give up too. I answered you DR but I'm not responding to this fairy tale anymore.
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