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Originally posted by Arkaleus
Do you think God allows whomever appears on earth to enter into an Immortal Union with Himself?
Did Christ accept all those who came to him? Not at all! The son is like the father.
Must we also accept and embrace the whole of mankind? Certainly not, no one does, and those who say they do are lying. It is not proper to do so, for this would abrogate the prinicpal of discernment and judgment, which is the first establishment of Wisdom.
God chooses 1 out of 100, 2 out of 10,000.
Is it as you say? Or are you only jesting?
Originally posted by Arkaleus
You think he will eat anything you give him.
You have done this to each of us. Your doctrine is a submissive one, with no protection for us. We are not all equal beings here, we do not all share the same place. You are one of those who try to group all of humanity together. This to me is a horrid thought. Some of us cannot bear the association with all men and women.
You think that this is the true teaching of Jesus, that all of us are to be as one. All of us. This sir, is a foul thought, and will never reflect the truth. You cannot put the filthy with the pure. We are not all sinners, we are not all evil, some of us bear great torments because of the envy, evil and wickedness of men and women.
Foul is what you say. I will not share my place with the ignorant, nor will I give succor to the tomrnetors of saints, I will not share my table with the abusers of my light and the thieves of my strength. You think all of us are equally poor, equally ignorant, and all living in the shame of foulness. God forbid that the entire earth be corrupted. You know it is not like this. Limited and poor is your vision.
If you think God is universally accessable, you are greatly mistaken. If something is free to obtain at the whim of desire, then it would be found commonly among the people. But in truth, the Spirit of God is upon a tiny fraction of the men who ever lived.
Whom I love I love unconditionally, and with great loyalty. Few are worthy of my love. Do you love as me?
You modern Christian, you think that it is easy to enter paradise. Perhaps Christ has made a place for you, but it is not the only place there is. Perhaps I am from a different place than you. Perhaps that is why we cannot agree. You cannot see my place, nor can you understand it.
Maybe that it why we cannot see eye to eye. You think your universe it all there is. You think you have learned completeness. You think you have interpreted things correctly, and are able to refute me because you think I am in error.
You modern protestant, individualism is foreign to you. You salvation requires another person who maintained his individuality. How are you able to even stand up by yourself? Your very core being is dependant. Is that better than the man able to stand up for himself, and entreat God as the prophets? Or does this thought make you fearful, and angry? WIll you hate me for saying that I require no permission?
I know what is in your heart, you will say that no man can stand up for himself, that ALL men require salvation. This is your ignorance and inexperience. Not all men require the salvation of Christ. You live on the mercy of others. Some do not require mercy, and these ones must be separated from you because of your envy.
It is a great disservice you give to the saints who overcame all things, because they cannot abide with the rest of you who do not. You say that you do not judge, and truly I hear do not hear one single example of discernment in your words, (you can only quote scripture), you are like a sheep being led. Perhaps that is the only way you can obtain for yourself. I will not deride it, but you should respect those who do not go that way.
You need to realize that not all of us are sheep. Some are lions. Some are men. Some are angels. We do not all belong in the same house, or herd. There is judgment and variation between us, this is the Glory of God. There are ranks and kingdoms, this is the Justice of God.
My knowledge is not equal to yours. I do not require the same as you. I grow my own, while you are fed by a spoon. The two ways are not equal. Do not berate me for running when you can only walk.
I think your words on "love" are just words. I do not think you actually apply them to your life. I thnk if you were to be closely examined you would be found to be a hypocrit, as are most men who claim Jesus.
I live exactly as I speak. I do not accept everyone, I do not bless everyone, But when I act it is 100% sincere. I do not pretend to be always correct. Somtimes I error because of the limit of my perceptions. But I hate what is worthy of hating, and love what is worthy of love, and I am strong in love. Perhaps I know love better than you, and you do not know it. Perhaps I know a good deal many things that you do not.
Those of who you refuse to confront evil are not equal to those who establish and demonstrate judgment against it. You cannot "accept" evil. You cannot "love" evil away. The corrupt will only be washed for a moment, and then they will turn again on you as soon as your blessing fades away from them. You cannot return those whom God has sent away.
Originally posted by Arkaleus
Raphael_UO, if you are a child, then speak as a child.
You are him that receives it as a little child. Forgive me for speaking so harshly with you. I cannot measure you by the same meter.
Arkaleus
[Edited on 24-9-2004 by Arkaleus]
We possess the active principal of God as our saving grace, we do not receive it as passive beings, or submissive beings.
Islam means "Submission to the Divine Will".