posted on Sep, 3 2004 @ 07:42 AM
Though we just don't call it that. You people ask where the poor go for medical treatment? They go to doctors, ERs, specialist and just about
everywhere the middle class go. In fact, its a federal law that no one in a hospital can be refused medical service on the basis of their inability
to pay. Just read the sign in the lobby the next time you're in there. And, as long as some payment on the bill whether its only 5 bucks a month is
made, they cannot attempt collection. But why is this an issue when we have medicare and medicaid? These programs take care of the poor and the
elderly to the point where they are raising stink over paying a 5 dollar co-pay on prescriptions. Friends, I think I have good private insurance. My
wife carries us at her work and she's a nurse. Even she has co-pays on prescriptions.
So, who are we talking about here that need healthcare, really? I'll tell ya who. I have a family member who demands free healthcare and they make
close to 50 grand a year. Why can't they afford a private package? They have bigger and better toys to buy. If the US ever did inact nationalized
healthcare, those of you who think it would be free are off the mark by more than a little. In fact, most would pay more than they do now because all
we'd have is our whole system under the same wasteful admin as medicare and medicaid. More than half the funds for each program go to this wasteful
administration. The committee that oversees it and its entanglement of buerocrats.
I think Skadi is right on when she says stop the waste at the govt level and more goes to help the poor. The poor are being held down by the same
people who profess to have their best interest at heart. The rich elite in this county are not those who make moderate income and strive for a better
life. The rich elite are those very people who push these kinds of social ideologies because their wealth is sheltered far away from taxes and they
could care less how much working people pay because they own the govt. and they take their cut before the money gets to its intended purpose. Thats
whats wrong with nationalize health care. Its not that we don't want people to have health care, its that we don't want to pay 6 times what it
should cost to get it inacted. The poor and elderly in the US have better health care than most who have it through their employment.
Look, I live in an area that has throughout US history been one of the most poverty stricken areas in the US next to WVA. Recently I did a county
wide needs assessment that involved a door to door survey of residents randomly chosen from the address database. It opened my eyes. Of all the
seniors I interviewed, most had their home paid for. Most had access to transportation, and the only beef most had with healthcare was the minimal
amount they had to pay for prescriptions though most said they didn't have a problem affording them. In the income range most were pulling in over
45 thousand a year form retirement and social security and had discounts on their power and water bill. They were mostly living comfortably and non
were in poverty.
The poorest people I interviewed were between 18 and 30 years old and were on either public assistance or working making less than the poverty rate
for the number in their family. When asked about health care, most were on medicaid and really had no beef with it. They get it all free.
In fact just about the only people I talked with were my contemporarys who had a problem with the cost of healthcare and couldn't afford to go for
treatment unless it was serious. Most of us tough out a cold or flu that seniors and welfare people go to the doctor for. The rich can pay for
treatment along with whatever elective surgery they want and the poor and elderly get their medical needs met for free. The only people who need
better healthcare are those who are being asked to pay more for the system to help the two previous classes who are already having their needs met.
This system isn't for the people who have trouble paying the bills and can't afford coverage. This system is for those who already have enough.
The storys of seniors who have to chose pills over food are greatly exagerrated. I know. I just spent my spring in poor appalachia knocking on doors
to find out. If you all are interested, when the people who funded the study release the data, I will post it. I wasn't the only person doing the
surveys. This was a massive effort which did nearly a thousand interviews.
To wrap it up, my question is simple. Why are we to asked the only people with healthcare issues and needs to pay more for a service that will not
benefit them? No matter how we argue around it, thats what it would be. Nothing in life is free. Sooner or later someone has to pay for it.