Originally posted by Ben81
Being homeless can take an enormous amount of courage and heart
surviving 360 day a yrs in the street will build you up to be VERY ressourcefull

Or it takes a whole bunch a laziness and depending on others(ie soup kitchens). I doubt that these homeless are more prepared then rich people who have a whole stock pile of food and weapons. There wont be anyone to give them change with shtf.

Originally posted by iRunNaked

Originally posted by Ben81
Being homeless can take an enormous amount of courage and heart
surviving 360 day a yrs in the street will build you up to be VERY ressourcefull

Or it takes a whole bunch a laziness and depending on others(ie soup kitchens). I doubt that these homeless are more prepared then rich people who have a whole stock pile of food and weapons. There wont be anyone to give them change with shtf.

Lazy not working like slave and robots .. yes
for myself .. i wouldnt be able to live in the street just now

There is some very lazy one indeed but others have became extremely ressourcefull
not to underestimate

Some of them will help others like us to survive in a SHTF world

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by iRunNaked

Originally posted by Ben81
Being homeless can take an enormous amount of courage and heart
surviving 360 day a yrs in the street will build you up to be VERY ressourcefull

Or it takes a whole bunch a laziness and depending on others(ie soup kitchens). I doubt that these homeless are more prepared then rich people who have a whole stock pile of food and weapons. There wont be anyone to give them change with shtf.

Lazy not working like slave and robots .. yes
for myself .. i wouldnt be able to live in the street just now

There is some very lazy one indeed but others have became extremely ressourcefull
not to underestimate

Some of them will help others like us to survive in a SHTF world

except that you are missing the whole point that its their getting handouts that is allowing them to survive......

There will be no handouts when SHTF people will fight to the death for what they have

Ridiculous precept.

The homeless can only survive because an entire civilization exists to support them. Not making a value judgment, since homeless people are in that state for any number of reasons: immigrants, runaways, drug addicts, mentally ill, wanted criminals, bankrupted, etc.

But without

a) a surplus of goods in the host society
b) a corps of volunteers with the leisure time to organize and minister to the homeless
c) a corps of volunteers with the philanthropic motivation to provide for others regardless of the target's merit
d) a larger base of donors to food-pantries, night-shelters, and organizations

the homeless would disappear overnight. Either by forcing themselves to assimilate in to the dominant culture, being forcefully assimilated, or simply by being "disappeared"

Life's hard. And hardest on the weakest.

One more reason why a civilization-ending event will not be the romantic comedy that many ATSers imagine.

A guy I had known for 48 years lived from 1983 until last Tuesday without running water and a great deal of the time electricity or phone, he always had money for beer though and had close to $9,000 stashed away at the time of his death... I think the Roger Miller song "King of the Road" pretty much describes the life style of a lot of people that are resourceful enough to live on the streets or in wooded areas in cardboard huts... Most of the ones that I have had any dealings with have mental health issues and are not capable of holding a job or have relationships with mainstream people that live under the threat of the boss man's whip... I know that it wasn't until the first Republican since the Reconstruction Era after the Civil War was elected governor of Texas and the state psychiatric hospitals were required to release thousands of mentally ill people onto the streets followed by Reagan being elected to office, there were no homeless people living on the streets of Dallas.. Before sunrise they were up and moving, looking for cigarette butts and scraps of food... The VA hospitals have a jump in patients checking in during periods of extreme hot or cold weather and a great deal of them are people that are without an address.. These people aren't a lot different than coyotes, wild hogs, bobcats or raccoon that live along wooded creek beds that run through the neighborhoods and outskirts of large cities... I know that the smart wealthy people have had food stashes and nice weapons for a very long time but I don't think it is because of fear of the street people but of people like themselves that feel like they deserve more than what others have and are willing to kill in order to always have it that way.

the best prepared person is the one who has control of mind.

It doesnt matter if youre homeless or not. if you get absorbed with fear & excitement youre just as easily succeptible to go down in a first wave scenario.

everyone is homeless from a certain point of view. Home is where the heart is - INSIDE YOU