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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 09:28 AM
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In the past week Russia has been hit pretty bad. I know this is nothing new to them but it seems that Al-queda is linking up with the chec's and causing mass panic. I'm just wondering what did Russia do to piss them off so bad.?




posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by DaTruth
In the past week Russia has been hit pretty bad. I know this is nothing new to them but it seems that Al-queda is linking up with the chec's and causing mass panic. I'm just wondering what did Russia do to piss them off so bad.?


The Chechans don't need Al-Qaeda to help them. They are more than capable by themselves. Until Russia solves the Chechan problem we can expect these attacks to continue.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 09:32 AM
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my 2 cents are on this thread.. with some links on Chechnya...





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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 10:12 AM
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They are fighting for independance. So Russia gave them limited autonomy. It was a pretty good deal for them. But as is the case in Isreal, the bad guys wanted more. If you make a deal with these people after they commit acts of terrorism, you lose. They won't stop up until they destroy you.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by mad scientist
The Chechans don't need Al-Qaeda to help them. They are more than capable by themselves. Until Russia solves the Chechan problem we can expect these attacks to continue.


That is not true. It is a fact that most of the financing the Chechen rebels are receiving, comes from outside (Saudi Arabia anyone?). Some locals are paid in hard currency to plant roadside bombs. Salaries are paid to the fighters and stipends to their families. It takes money to fight, you know. Plus, there are a number of actual Arabs found among the rebels.

There has probably never been a direct Al Qaeda involvement, though.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 11:40 AM
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well, there is Saudi money everywhere!!! Hell, they gave me money just to switch to mecca-cola! Jus kiddin, but while the Chechens have been recieving money from moody arab sources, they also have funded themselves the longest through kidnapping, drug/gun running extortion and racketeering.

Ochin Plocha!



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Aelita

That is not true. It is a fact that most of the financing the Chechen rebels are receiving, comes from outside (Saudi Arabia anyone?). Some locals are paid in hard currency to plant roadside bombs. Salaries are paid to the fighters and stipends to their families. It takes money to fight, you know. Plus, there are a number of actual Arabs found among the rebels.

There has probably never been a direct Al Qaeda involvement, though.


Sure they get money from all sorts of muslim orginizations, Al-Qaeda would only make up a small part if at all. The Kavkaz websites have some footage from the Chechan muj. These videos are taken to prove that they are fighting the Russians so they can recieve money and weapons, The more active you are the more you get.

As for Arabs fighting with them - Chechans normally shun arab fighters and will not fight alongside them.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by DaTruth
In the past week Russia has been hit pretty bad. I know this is nothing new to them but it seems that Al-queda is linking up with the chec's and causing mass panic. I'm just wondering what did Russia do to piss them off so bad.?

In the Muslim (at least Bin Ladin) opinion Russia is as bad as US and Israel because it attacks a Muslim nation so Bin Ladin and Basayev have declared open war



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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It is so obvious that recent attacks on Russia are initiated and supported by Al-CIAda. It is one stone and two birds for Bush. It punished Russia for its opposition to Iraq war and its support for Iran. Secondly, Bush can exploit this in Republican Convention to show the terror and terrorize US people to follow him for 4 more years.

Unfortunately, most US people are only blinding patriot and follow mass propaganda by CNN, Fox, etc. I believe Putin will retaliate soon.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:23 PM
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Yeah it was all a plan from the mind of Bush
Come one half the time people are saying he is no smarter then a chimp the other half of the time he is planning all these world wide terrorist attacks.

He cant be doing both someones wrong here



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Yeah it was all a plan from the mind of Bush
Come one half the time people are saying he is no smarter then a chimp the other half of the time he is planning all these world wide terrorist attacks.

He cant be doing both someones wrong here


The problem is that Bush is only the front man. He has people Cheney, Wolfwitz, Perle, Feith, Condi, Rove, etc to plan and do for him. Do you know the recent Israel Spy of US high official?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by zcheng

Unfortunately, most US people are only blinding patriot and follow mass propaganda by CNN, Fox, etc. I believe Putin will retaliate soon.


OOOOOH OK, but not the Chinese with the state run media



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by zcheng

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Yeah it was all a plan from the mind of Bush
Come one half the time people are saying he is no smarter then a chimp the other half of the time he is planning all these world wide terrorist attacks.

He cant be doing both someones wrong here


The problem is that Bush is only the front man. He has people Cheney, Wolfwitz, Perle, Feith, Condi, Rove, etc to plan and do for him. Do you know the recent Israel Spy of US high official?

You forgot about Donny
PS How old is he? 65?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by AtheiX
You forgot about Donny
PS How old is he? 65?


No. I did not mention him, because he will be the scapegoat when the time is right.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 02:58 PM
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The Chechans don't need Al-Qaeda to help them. They are more than capable by themselves. Until Russia solves the Chechan problem we can expect these attacks to continue.


I agree, but they are getting some foreign muslim aid as well, though I doubt it's Al Queda directly.....more like the kinds of fronts that are used by multiple organizations...

I don't think it's the Saudis though, this time....after all, they've just become bed-buddies with mother Russia, so not a good idea to upset your customers.... May be independent Saudi nationals though...but not the government itself......



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:49 AM
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Why Russia?

the Zionists are smart. Instead of USA and Russia fighting against each other, they will unite together on the war on terrorism(muslims). therefore Israel will definitely have secure borders.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by mad scientist

Originally posted by zcheng

Unfortunately, most US people are only blinding patriot and follow mass propaganda by CNN, Fox, etc. I believe Putin will retaliate soon.


OOOOOH OK, but not the Chinese with the state run media


Dude, this is the same guy that thinks the Sars outbreak in China is really a US biological attack


He can't understand that *gasp* not all of the problems in the world are caused by America



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man
Dude, this is the same guy that thinks the Sars outbreak in China is really a US biological attack


He can't understand that *gasp* not all of the problems in the world are caused by America


Coward, why do not you reply to the thread that discuss the issue?
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