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Which is the question I want to get into with this thread.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by jmdewey60
And if he does come back he is sure going to be angry with Religions which carry his name.
Today is what we have.
The day of the lord is today! DUH! Now is all you have, the past is gone and the future is always in front of you, and just out of reach.
I think so but not sure if it applies, exactly.
Am I making sense?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by windword
Am I making sense?
I think so but not sure if it applies, exactly.
Jesus sacrificed himself, meaning whatever he was before, no longer exists. What does exist which is Christ, is a spirit which interacts with the physical, such as who we are, in this physical existence. So the "coming" of Christ is right now, that Spirit which is what remains after the sacrifice of Jesus, is available to enter into us as a new breath of life. This is the new life, and replaces that old life that was in bondage to the life and death cycle.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Thanks for whatever that was.
Jesus is Christ.
That is what the New Testament is about.
Whatever that expected thing that was supposed to come,
was fulfilled in his coming, as in his birth, his baptism, his life
and ministry including his teachings and miracles.
Jesus sacrificed himself to leave his legacy which is his
inheritance to us. That was his Testament.
Jesus went to heaven where his rightful place to rule the
world is at. Jesus rules as the Christ now.
Here are some results from a word search for "bondage":
Yes. But, we are still here in bondage.
OK, you quoted one verse that I posted that came up in my word search. Is that the only one that creates this thought in your mind about "things at work"?
A few things are at work here with the verses you quoted.
Please do give those references!
We await his return as indicated in Hebrews 9:28. We have all been waiting for our salvation to appear as Christ appears a second time. There are other references to this same event throughout the Bible.
23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
You mean the thread title? That was Second Thessalonians, and what I was saying was that if that letter was fake, and was lying, then the lie was about the day of the Lord having come. If the lie is that that day did not come, then I might suspect that the opposite might be true.
The day of the Lord is still nearer than when those words were said.
There are biblical specialist who concentrate on the Jubilee laws. You should think about reading some of their work, and you may know not to make such blithe statements such as this you posted.
A day is 1000 and a week is 7000. A jubilee year happens each 7 years when the captives are let free and debts are forgiven. Christ returns on the day of the Lord to set us free form our bondage here to sin and death. We still have that day to go. Jesus said that if they destroy this temple (his body), He would raise it again in three days. That was two thousand years ago. He will rise on the third day. This is the day of the Lord. Faith becomes fact.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by SuperiorEd
OK, you quoted one verse that I posted that came up in my word search. Is that the only one that creates this thought in your mind about "things at work"?
A few things are at work here with the verses you quoted.
You seem to have quite a bit to say about these "few things". Do you have any verses to go along with that commentary?
I'm doing a study. That's how I do my threads. I have a question and I want to see if there is some sort of resolution to it and want to examine the evidence, so if you know of any, then feel free to submit it.