OWS and the Baby Kitten Defense

Reply to post by beezzer

Ok I get what you are saying but what exactly are the baby kitten arguments that you have seen that you believe are distracting people from discussing the real issues?


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What a lame, ridiculous argument.

OWS stands for the exact opposite of the NWO. OWS' only stance has been against the bank bailouts and the corrupt ties between banks and government.

Their opposition is the one supporting the NWO and central banking. Is that your position?

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Ok I get what you are saying but what exactly are the baby kitten arguments that you have seen that you believe are distracting people from discussing the real issues?

 

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Ending corporate greed. Influence peddling. Lobbyist influence.
All noble things.

Eliminating capitalism, global taxes, entitlements in education/healthcare, these things. . . not so much.

Reply to post by beezzer

Well healthcare has been on the table for years now so naturally that would come up. But I havent heard anything about a global tax or ending capitalism. I mean when I went to OWS protest there was a guy there who identified himself as communist and had a large map explaining imperialism and all that good stuff....but most of the people walked away when someone asked him outright if he was a communist and he said yes. I feel like saying that want to end capitalism is a little much, im sure some of them do, but thats more reflective of the diversity of the groups involved.


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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
What a lame, ridiculous argument.

OWS stands for the exact opposite of the NWO. OWS' only stance has been against the bank bailouts and the corrupt ties between banks and government.

Their opposition is the one supporting the NWO and central banking. Is that your position?

And I present you. . . . . "The Cute Baby Kitten Defense"!!!!

reply to post by acmpnsfal
The basis is this "1%" right?

What does OWS plan to replace them with?

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Ok I get what you are saying but what exactly are the baby kitten arguments that you have seen that you believe are distracting people from discussing the real issues?

 

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Originally posted by acmpnsfal

OWS has no goal that includes getting rid of the one percent. They say they are the 99 percent. Not lets get rid of the one percent. The only thing I have heard them say about the 1 percent that would affect them is that they want them to pay higher taxes and get corporate money out of politics. But even those things are really a clear goal. They havent really articulated what exactly they want.

 

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OWS non-supporter
I do not support OWS because it has the support of Accorn, moveon.org, Pelosi, Obama. and Soros
They want to tax the rich more the same people who create the jobs so that we can even pay taxes.

OWS supporter
You do not support OWS because your scared, and afraid of change.
Don't be afraid of change, they bail out the banks and sell you out.
They keep you in fear to keep you slaves to the system. Don't let them scare you.
OWS is against bank bailouts, and people who do not pay there fair share.
You should be afraid of a system that supports tyranny and corporate greed.
OWS want to see the rich pay more because they pay almost no taxes
thats why OWS wants to end tax breaks for the rich.

Tell you your just afraid of change. (socialism/communism)
Then
Tell you *they* keep you slaves to the system (capitalism)
Then
Tell you not to be afraid change. (socialism/communism)
Then
Tell you what your suppose to be afraid of (capitalism)
Then
Tell you taxing the rich, shutting down wall street, and ending corporations is the answer to everything(socialism/communism)

problem action solution

What you think beezer? Blindly and not knowingly supporting communist and socialism

Or willfully, knowingly, and articulating the whole scenario?

Some do not understand what they are doing and supporting
The people who are pulling the strings DO.

Reply to post by beezzer

OWS has no goal that includes getting rid of the one percent. They say they are the 99 percent. Not lets get rid of the one percent. The only thing I have heard them say about the 1 percent that would affect them is that they want them to pay higher taxes and get corporate money out of politics. But even those things are really a clear goal. They havent really articulated what exactly they want.


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The problem with that is that you are assuming they want to replace our current system with capitalism and socialism. They never outright said that or provided any solution from which you could infer that. That is your personal opinion. While those statements are ones i've seen adding communism and socialism at the end of each one is just crazy.


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communism and socialism....i wish i could edit posts on mobile.


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wow...this is the most negative, troll-like thread I have ever read on this site....you all have a right to speak your mind...and I am glad the mods put you all together......the good folks in the streets of this country, do this for you and me.....if you can wrap your head around that one, simple fact, you might begin to get it.....it is ALL wrong....the system and constitution are perfect...the monsters in power are not... it is the crooks that must go....not the constitution....all is based on the words of the Declaration of Independence....take a deep breath, and read their signs...don't watch Fox news....they are there for us all..they don't want to change the country...just change "the guard" of the country!..God bless them...and God bless the USA

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For the most part, I believe that the majority of OWS are idealogues.
They want a utopian society where every need is met.

Real life doesn't work that way. Nor should it, if we want to continue to grow.

Originally posted by beezzer
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For the most part, I believe that the majority of OWS are idealogues.
They want a utopian society where every need is met.

Real life doesn't work that way. Nor should it, if we want to continue to grow.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by beezzer

 

OWS has no goal that includes getting rid of the one percent. They say they are the 99 percent. Not lets get rid of the one percent. The only thing I have heard them say about the 1 percent that would affect them is that they want them to pay higher taxes and get corporate money out of politics. But even those things are really a clear goal. They havent really articulated what exactly they want.

 

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They want the *rich* to pay more taxes.
Your in the highest IRS income tax bracket at $250,000 a year. (considered *rich*)
If you are married your household income counts as one.
So it is really a tax on the middle class!
If you both make 125,000 a year your house hold is considered *rich*.
They want to tax them of up to 50%

Soros and Buffet have tens of billions of dollars they are part of the 1%
the rich people your talking about are actually
middle class families.

reply to post by beezzer

When they say, "We want a global/socialist one-world economy along with a totalitarian regime and we want to rescue baby kittens."

Do you have any statements from any Occupier/Supporter to show we are saying these things? Or that we are employing "baby kitten defense"? lol

Originally posted by Kali74
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When they say, "We want a global/socialist one-world economy along with a totalitarian regime and we want to rescue baby kittens."

Do you have any statements from any Occupier/Supporter to show we are saying these things? Or that we are employing "baby kitten defense"? lol

Actually there are threads on ATS where they have stated those exact things.
Ending capitalism.
A one-world rule.


The baby kittens part is all me.

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Can you link the threads or some quotes?

Originally posted by beezzer

When they say, "We want a global/socialist one-world economy along with a totalitarian regime and we want to rescue baby kittens."

How you lie, you are brazen and completely full of it.

Wanting to curtail corruption in the government and upper echelons of
big business is hardly the B.S you and the FOX news crowd publish.

OWS? What are your goals? Get rid of the 1%? Replace them with what? Get rid of the free market system? Replace it with what? Get rid of the financial system? Replace it with what?

Replace it with something less corrupt and not designed to pump out a couple trillionaires,
how about that?





I eagarly await your replies.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by beezzer

 

When they say, "We want a global/socialist one-world economy along with a totalitarian regime and we want to rescue baby kittens."

Do you have any statements from any Occupier/Supporter to show we are saying these things? Or that we are employing "baby kitten defense"? lol

his statement suffices

reply to post by mastahunta
No lies.
But your response does indicate that I may be correct.

Keep pointing out the cute baby kittens. Tell everyone how we hate baby kittens.

OWS has made it abundantly clear they oppose the NWO or the close ties that exist now between banks and government.

OP's claim they WANT to instill an NWO is wingnut fantasy and part of the Fox/wingnut spin. Thread fails on that claim alone.