Fliers Drop on Occupy Chicago Protesters

guys, lets not change this system into a better system. GET RID OF THE SYSTEM. That's the only thing that can fix this. WAKE THE FK UP.

reply to post by jefwane


Oh! Good catch, and thank you. See, I thought the original message was written specifically addressing Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Chicago.

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by Rockpuck

 

I see a bunch of losers trying to make you believe that, and trying to threaten those that would see them fall from grace. We functioned a long time without them, we can do it again. Gambling with our money is not good, it's part of the problem.

We're the ones that made their profits possible, not any skill they have. Now that more profit has become unrealistic, it's over for them. They don't realize it, but the dogs are tired of pulling, and there money sled is staying put.

edit on 29-10-2011 by Evolutionsend because: (no reason given)

Ummm........we functioned a long time without them with billions fewer people on the planet........not saying you are'nt right......merely stating that they enabled a huge explosion in population....if it all falls........so will billions of people......welcome to the new dark ages...

YouSir

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Evolutionsend

 

The overall message from the letter, that I gather anyways, is that our society does not function without the Traders. Our investments depend on it, the economy depends on it, the wealth spent by them is a huge part of the economy, etc etc. And it's true. It's not an excuse for unethical practices or corruption, that needs to be taken care of. But if you punish people for making money .... well then we have a problem.

The thing is you are presenting "punishing people for making money" in an overly
simplistic way. The problem is rewarding fraudulent behavior more than we honor
a decent hard days work. It is far more profitable to push a button and cause mayhem
than it is to put in a good long day. Society punishes embezzlers and all kinds
of actions that "make money", I am not sure why you have to put yourself in such
a small mental corral. Nothing will change until we all agree that punishing
people for unethical, corrosive practices is OK. If they made some practices
capital offenses, they would NOT be engaged in. Do you think more people
would rob banks if people online held the belief that, it is a problem punishing
people for making money. The only difference is the process, that is why your
take on punish is not very productive or thoughtful. As long as their is no gun
and as long as their are lawyers involved, it's cool

Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
Oh no, the Bankers are going to become teachers!! Well, thankfully my Son has finished 3rd Grade.

They are also threatening to wash their own cars and landscape their own yards.

Hello, welcome to our World you arrogant overpaid animals.

Ummm..........what your not getting is that they will have prepared for this eventuality...
Have you?.......

When it all comes tumbling down........will you be secure, safe, fed, clothed, housed?.......sure would be handy to have all of those things........might be prudent to start preparing.........actually, some of us started years ago...........For you and your families sake....."Get ready already"...

YouSir

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by neo96

 

Man has existed long before banks and 'job creators'. We will do just fine without em.

Ummmm........That would be.....man......minus a few billion other men......women.......children...
2nd

What the flyer dropping person failed to note is that their 1% is hardly going to make a dent in the 99% that has occupied those terrible jobs they are going to end up at.

Really, if that flyer was a threat, it was a paper tiger. All of Wall Street could become unemployed and you might never meet one of those people during your daily routine in your entire life.

Sure, very scary.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by spacekc929

 

It's not just the rich. I hire a guy to cut down my vegetation in the fall and reshape my trees. I'm quite greedy when it comes to my own hard earned money too ..

I can think of an infinite number of things I'd rather see my money go to than taxes so big bertha in her trailer park can stuff canned food down her 6 brats mouths while they get a plethora of government assistance and free healthcare/school/food etc etc.

Maybe if you want to talk about greed we should be looking at the folks screaming for handouts. Sounds pretty greedy to me. I might be greedy myself, but at least I work for my money, I don't scream for freebies and assistance then act like an ass hat when I get it. There is a pathetic level of self importance, arrogance and greed among the poor just as much as the rich.

And again.. who pays for it? The Middle Class that's who.

You make some very good points. I have unfortunately been unemployed several times over the last three years but now I have finally landed a permanent job, with future prospects. Things have been hard the last few years with so many redundancies, so many people genuinely want to work and just cannot get a job.

Seems I am one of the lucky ones but things are never set in stone these days.

I can think of an infinite number of things I'd rather see my money go to than taxes so big bertha in her trailer park can stuff canned food down her 6 brats mouths while they get a plethora of government assistance and free healthcare/school/food etc etc.

I agree, this really pisses me off too.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by dreamseeker

 

Well excuse me for having an opinion. I don't really care about your personal situation, your issues, your destitute poverty. You think it's the rich that pay your entitlements but it's not. No, it's hard working middle class people who work their asses off and still live paycheck to paycheck. After our retirement accounts were slaughtered, our houses underwater, the value of our wages collapsing, the costs of necessities killing us.. and now we have OWS protesters wanting MORE. More free this, more free that, they want healthcare and free education, pensions and entitlement and who pays for it? You can't target the rich to give to the poor because it's fundamentally wrong to reward someone simply on the basis that they didn't achieve anything themselves. It's fundamentally wrong to the middle class as well, taking from one group and giving to another while we get nothing in return. The only ones to profit from such policies is the poor. and quite frankly I don't care how bad your life sucks, no one deserves a free ride over another person especially on someone elses dime.

You sir have issues. I suggest you get them checked out.
Your opinions are very snide and not necessary.

I guess I could say I could give a # less about your complaining.
Deal with what you have to go through.

What people need to understand is that we're all in this together. As long as you live in the US of #ing A, you're all in the #ing mixing pot.


All these pointless opinions are more like anger rants.

Don't wanna put up with it anymore, move the # outta this nation.

Problem solved.

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Yes you're right everyone deserves the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ...until you start destroying everyone else's right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Check your facts kid, this country was founded on and because of scum stepping on the little guy.

reply to post by Rockpuck

Just to give your post a little boost.

Link: Declaration of Independence

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

As it is mentioned within your original statement, the United States was founded on the principle that 'the sky is the limit'. If people started to read the grievances we presented to King George, they would have also have known the following line is was added:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world

Interesting... Its a great argument for 'trade and free markets'. Sounds like we escaped King George to pursue an open, free, democratic (lowercase 'd'), and capitalistic way of life.

Something else of interest:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent

Ironically, the taxes we protested against were only 7% of someone's income. Now we are at 30-45% of our weekly income.

When 'Occupy: America" protests in the name of 'redistribution of wealth', they fail to realize they are going against everything this nation was founded upon. As a result of stepping on someone's pursuit of happiness, 'Occupy' has become a domestic enemy of our founding principles.

Since domestic corporations and banks are owned by American citizens, following their personal definition of happiness, the government cannot do jack to stop them. Why? It would be unAmerican.

Instead of protesting against the accumulation of wealth, 'Occupy' should be protesting for colleges to teach people about good business ethics. Big difference in approach. One technique prevents the problem from occurring before it happens, and the other attacks the problem after it happens.

'Occupy: America" is taking the side of King George.

Originally posted by e11888
Check your facts kid, this country was founded on and because of scum stepping on the little guy.

...And just like the Russian communist revolution it failed.

Bigger scum are stepping on ever smaller guys.

Capitalist interests were the major motivation for colonizing the Americas, the rest is just fairy tales, feel good stories.

Yeah i dont think these idiots realise that if they become the middle class, we all become poor, so itll still be the same 99% against the same 1%.

The 99% can easily destroy the 1% and thats where its heading.

I say find the guy who wrote this flier and make an example of him.

reply to post by Rockpuck


Just because I don't have a lot of money does not mean my life sucks. The middle class may be having a lot of problems but imagine those problems on half the income. The poor have less money. We all pay taxes and I paid into SS! If you are struggling so hard as well then how the heck can you really judge me?
It is people like you that scare me. You are the type of person who will scream to put the poor in fema camps rather than make sure they get the help they need.
This is why I always make a comment that is against the poor because people who put down the poor are just as dangerous to me as the richest polictian. Why because people like you will ask for something to be done about the "poor/homeless" problem; just like those who wanted something be done about the "jew" problem in the 1930s. When there is a holocaust of the poor whether literal or by taking away benefits I want my american citzens sticking up for me as I would do for them.
I like my life but frankly think it would be a little easier making $20,000. I am not asking for much because I am on disablity I have to go by all these rules and they take away my benefits a little at time to prevent me from working too much. I honestly wish they would take all these rules away but if I could work full time I wouldn't not even be qualified for disablity. The future of the USA depends on kindness and compassion for others; I see people having less and less of it.

The 1% are mainly players in a broken game. We can't just get rid of the 1% and hope that the game will fix itself.

Put an end to the Federal Reserve and fake money that gets loaned countless times. Now that's where we need to start.

END THE FED.

Originally posted by GalacticPhotonBands
The 1% are mainly players in a broken game. We can't just get rid of the 1% and hope that the game will fix itself.

Put an end to the Federal Reserve and fake money that gets loaned countless times. Now that's where we need to start.

END THE FED.

Very true. However, I hear people wanting to end the Fed, whose manipulation and debt management through its member banks, allows federal deficit spending. Then, in the same breath, say they want to raise spending and guarantee all sorts of socialist handouts. The twain cannot meet. No logical consistency among many arguments on here.

haha, sure they may work hard but i guarantee they wouldn't work that hard for 8.15 an hour. Something tells me they wont get the chance to "take our jobs".

I sense a lot of jealousy in posts around here. Seriously? Cushy? Overpaid? Do you people understand that those on wall street or in the finance industry work harder in a few months then you ever will in your entire life? The reason they are lashing out finally is because the people who are protesting want hand-outs for doing nothing, and those in finance worked HARD to make their ends meet.

Teacher's don't deserve a damn thing because the education system is a joke and I certainly wasn't impressed with them at the college I went to. Contractors and manual labor workers don't deserve anything either, a cesspool of under-educated morons complaining about every little thing. These people don't deserve anything. "Oh wah - i'm in debt!" Guess what? There are people dying all over the world every single day, without Macbooks, without Smartphones, without *GASP* internet! They don't have time to whine at a city hall, they need to eat to survive. And here you are with enough time on your hands to 'stick it to the man.'

I used to work at a finance firm, we work extremely hard for ridiculous hours and don't ask for a damn thing. We work way harder than a teacher blabbing about Christopher Columbus to a bunch of spoiled punks, or a worker welding some steel together. Come on. These people aren't protesting because they want to take down the 1%, they are protesting because they aren't the 1%.

I currently work in the government for public housing. The people that I provide housing for aren't a bunch of '99%' goofballs. These are legitimately poor people living on the streets, THESE are the people in America that need our help - these people protesting aren't in poverty, they are in debt that they caused for themselves.

I gave this movement a chance. I attended the local movement at city hall in Philadelphia. I do believe that there are sects of the finance industry with some bad apples, such as the hoosiers at S&P who basically took bribes to give bonds ratings which they did NOT deserve. What a joke. "Legalize Marijuana" signs everywhere, "I Hate Teabaggers," a bunch of random quirky internet-joke signs, live 'music' being played off of sticks and barrels. I asked many what they were protesting for, none of them knew. None of them. All they said was "We are 99% and all the wealth in the world is owned by 1%!" Like a bunch of mentally-challenged drones. Did I mention they were all high and drunk? Did I mention most bring their laptops and are seen on a social media site bragging about what they were doing 90% of the time?

I saw someone say something like "wall street drones" or something stupid like that. This just turned into a ridiculous rant, but I feel like some on these boards have such a warped perspective of the finance industry. Everyone thinks it's just a bunch of fat cats smokin' cigars, when in reality it is comprised of some of the most intelligent, hard-working people on the planet. Ah well, hopefully in time the movement will become a bit more...should I say...eloquent and understandable in its direction.

reply to post by NebulaZero


Ohhh.. right, so if I don't slave working living paycheck to paycheck so I can give 30% of my money to corrupt causes like bailing out banks, providing free entitlements to the poor, and other massive government waste projects I should just "move outa the country"

Right.

reply to post by e11888


It was actually the Merchant Class that initiated the Revolutionary War, not the poor "kid". But as an astute historical fact checker I assume you know that. Just as with other major revolutions, such as the French Revolution, it was the bourgeoisie, not the poor.

reply to post by Section31


Well said! And we do pay quite literally thousands of times more in taxes, fines and fees now than we did under the tyranny of King George. Occupy's answer is bigger and more powerful government.