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Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Cryptonomicon
Why are you so much for violence?
Why is it that you feel that you can't win on the merits of your ideas but only on the ferocity of your animalistic tendencies?
:shk:
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy
I've never stuck my head in the ground on anything NH.
I just don't think trashing America, capitalism, and following a group of lemmings off a cliff because Adbusters says so is the best thing for me.
You seem to believe that if I don't think like you that somehow I'm for the very things you hate.
In some cases that maybe true. But your hyperbolic accusations of being for corruption and predatory practices, being a "paid shill" and whatever other nonsensical garbage you wanna spew at me is simply ridiculous and delusional.
Sorry you don't like the fact that I'm not a leftist. You're gonna have to deal with that. People have views of the world that are far stranger and more offensive by far. And voicing opinion on a discussion board open to all isn't "propaganda" "shilling" or anything else you wish to ascribe as a moniker to those you disagree with.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's just someone who disagrees.edit on 30-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by areyouserious2010
reply to post by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
im guessing you didn't correctly read what he said " the flash-bang used afterwards was clearly aimed at people trying to help him". i hope you know what the word riot means.
dictionary.reference.com...
"violent or wild disorder".
Would you consider throwing bottles violent? At the least it would be considered disorderly.
please tell me at what moment HELPING an injured man is considered VIOLENT OR WILD DISORDER. at that moment none of the protesters attentions was focused on violence or directly at the officers. i agree that some guys MIGHT (which i haven't seen in any video) have sparked it, just not at that moment, it was unnecessary.
First, prove that the police knew the man was seriously injured. I understand that you have ample time to watch the video and read what other people say about it but that does not mean that the police were afforded such a luxury as watching it in the comfort of their home with the ability to rewind it and watch it again before making the decision to act.
If the police were aware that the man was seriously injured it may have changed the way they handled the situation.
Second, if they knew the man was seriously injured then they are responsible for the man's safety and could not allow him to be dragged away by the crowd. Being in a position of authority, it is the responsibility of the police to ensure the man is PROPERLY treated for his injuries. Failing to do so, resulting in death, could open the department to serious legal ramnifications.
If they knew the man was seriously injured then I agree a flashbang was a poor choice of tool. Still though, it does not warrant this entire situation being blown way out of proportion like it is by people who disagree with it.
It warrants the officer to be reprimanded and all attempts should be made to make sure it does not happen again but that is all.
here it is slow motion for you.
Yes, I understand that you can slow the video down and make full use of your 20/20 hindsight.
So says the solider of the US military...
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Cryptonomicon
Why are you so much for violence?
Why is it that you feel that you can't win on the merits of your ideas but only on the ferocity of your animalistic tendencies?
:shk:
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Cryptonomicon
Why are you so much for violence?
Why is it that you feel that you can't win on the merits of your ideas but only on the ferocity of your animalistic tendencies?
:shk:
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy
So says the solider of the US military...
Indeed, I do.
I recognize the value of life and death, and if you think killing Americans in the name of whatever is tantamount to serving your country in a time of war then...
Originally posted by unkown142
I thow a bottle and you thow bullets, tear gas, pepper spray, and batons. Talk about stepping it up a notch
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoHierarchy
The only thing I agree with OWS on is that there ought to be controls on banks and that the power of the Fed needs to either be reigned in, or simply abolished.
After that we part ways and this is why:
A well sourced article on who backs and supports OWS
Why do I feel this way? Because the philosophy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" doesn't work. Historically speaking, the enemy of your enemy is the enemy you'll fight with later on. Why would I run head on into that?edit on 2-11-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)