Occupy Oakland Protester admits bottles were thrown at Police BEFORE police responded

Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Oh?
Cuz you and a gif say so?
Seeing as how there are Occupy protests not just around the country but around the world, even if I want to buy your gif it hardly proves your point. All I asked for was a number.

That was the other thing Neo felt unworthy of a response. Just give me a solid number from a reliable source on both. Is that a tough question? Apparently it is worthless.

Actually,if you did your homework,you would see Occupy Movement,or Arab Spring,has resulted in anarchy and death. Ask the Egyptians if they feel safe,now that their leader is gone? Reliable source? Use your EYES! Do your own damnn homework,instead of making others do it for you ! I mean really,how hard is it? Anything ANYONE shows you,you dismiss as propaganda anyways. Quit trolling please!

reply to post by Evolutionsend


So did you not see the young Iraq war veteran who had his skull fractured. You don't get much more baby-faced and clean than that kid. Oh, but there is that protesting for peace thing he has been doing....nevermind.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Oh?
Cuz you and a gif say so?
Seeing as how there are Occupy protests not just around the country but around the world, even if I want to buy your gif it hardly proves your point. All I asked for was a number.

That was the other thing Neo felt unworthy of a response. Just give me a solid number from a reliable source on both. Is that a tough question? Apparently it is worthless.

Actually,if you did your homework,you would see Occupy Movement,or Arab Spring,has resulted in anarchy and death. Ask the Egyptians if they feel safe,now that their leader is gone? Reliable source? Use your EYES! Do your own damnn homework,instead of making others do it for you ! I mean really,how hard is it? Anything ANYONE shows you,you dismiss as propaganda anyways. Quit trolling please!

doing your homework? it's called backing up your own discussion. isn't that what people here on ATS do?
it would be pointless to provide people with sources and links in all the threads that are posted on here,
might as well write "DO YOUR OWN DAM HOMEWORK" after every thread that's posted on here.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Afraid of socialism, or conditioned to fear the cure?

And since when do bottles equate rubble bullets/tear gas/stun grenades/police beatings? The state is supposed to fear the people, not the other way around.

Those with the balls to stand up to the state are the true liberals deserving of democracy.

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I've posted this before, and maybe I need to start a thread on it, but I still don't think the police reaction is an appropriate response to the given stimulus.

For example...

A protestor throws a bottle. Okay, what kind of bottle?

Secondly who was doing it?

You can't just open up fire with rubber bullets on a crowd of people because 1 or 2 guys ( who may be gov plants) threw a bottle (plastic???). That's not the appropriate response.


Learn to deal with the situation the appropriate way, and we won't have a problem.

Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld

doing your homework? it's called backing up your own discussion. isn't that what people here on ATS do?
it would be pointless to provide people with sources and links in all the threads that are posted on here,
might as well write "DO YOUR OWN DAM HOMEWORK" after every thread that's posted on here.

You can protest all you like,but dont say this movement is in the MILLIONS,while the rest of America sleeps. When you have a millions of Americans protesting on Wall Street or DC,then I might say you're doing it right. Also OWS has to quit being confrontational. Peaceful protesting speaks volumes. Saw a video of a "squid" holding up a copy of the constitution. Bravo!

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
I've posted this before, and maybe I need to start a thread on it, but I still don't think the police reaction is an appropriate response to the given stimulus.

For example...

A protestor throws a bottle. Okay, what kind of bottle?

Secondly who was doing it?

You can't just open up fire with rubber bullets on a crowd of people because 1 or 2 guys ( who may be gov plants) threw a bottle (plastic???). That's not the appropriate response.


Learn to deal with the situation the appropriate way, and we won't have a problem.

edit on 29-10-2011 by v1rtu0s0 because: (no reason given)

Did you miss the part where they were throwing rocks? I guess those must have been plastic? if you watch the OP video, the girl talks of rocks as well. If they didn’t wear the gear and got hurt, the protesters would have called them stupid for not wearing any of it! I don’t care how you all try to justify it, the protesters are wrong in this case. Why can't the protesters accept that?”

Forgot to add.....Anyone could have thrown the bottle/rock initially, but I think once the protesters saw that, the rest just joined in. NO ONE will know for sure...

I call Bull[snip]

She doesn't even believe what she is saying herself....

Something smells like a plant.

Rocks? Really?

Where exactly are they getting rocks from in the middle of a City? lol

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
I call Bull[snip]

She doesn't even believe what she is saying herself....

Something smells like a plant.

Rocks? Really?

Where exactly are they getting rocks from in the middle of a City? lol

edit on 29-10-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)

How do protesters get molotov cocktails in the middle of a city? lol

reply to post by Propulsion

How do protesters get molotov cocktails in the middle of a city? lol

How do cops murder innocent civilians to sacrifice to Satan in the middle of the City?

(Second Line)

Originally posted by Foxy1
I think its brilliant whoever turned the whole movement into nothing more than a catch phrase stating 99% vs 1%
people love catch phrases like "epic fail" or "seriously?" I think those are the top ones for 2011. I guess every era has them like "far out" or "right on man" from the 70's or lets not forget the 80's "radical" or totally awesome" then the 90's "def" or "dis" the the early 2000 "thats off the hook" now its the epic fail or seriously? era. being a student of socialology (arent we all really?) its easy to measure every 10 years. language is like music, and changes every decade. I recommend using speech that is timeless like that of the music of beethoven or mozart. After all if you speech is timeless wont you message also be? if these movements arent using the right speech then their message will be forgotten sort of like new kids on the block...

Yes, don't forget "dude" and "sweet".

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Cool, now let's see the video.
We know the protestors have video, but we also know the police has cameras out there too.
You would be stupid to think the cops didn't.
So.....let's see the video, I can show a vid of the cops atrocities, let's see theirs of the protestors atrocities.

(Edit)
In geek speak.
Screenshots or it did not happen.

Sometimes I dont get this site ,it is suppose to be a conspiracy site . OWS is protesting against the injustice ,the scammers and bankers,corporations robbing the american people blind but some on here are totally against it just like those guys on FOX NEWS.Americans are either right or left no middle ground what so ever to help each other out.If you go far enough left you end up right.It is suppose to be the the united states not the divided states.Deep down everyone know that they are being sold down the swanny,corporations shipping jobs overseas,politicians coning the people for their on gain.Right wingers are all behind these corporations because corporations created jobs but they always miss one point that the jobs are not in America .45000 to 50000 factories have been shut down. Left wingers regulate things to death enviromental issues and the like.Deregulate the oil industry or deregulate other industries so people have jobs (rightwing) to hell with the enviroment (Koch Brothers).Left wing ,regulate the industries which sometimes stops jobs but the enviroment is safe and people dont get sick. No middle ground.Get a job you lazy bastard I did I am almost broke but I am making it on my own and can pay for my own healthcare.Left wing, I lost my job because it was shipped overseas.I lost my house and cant find a job even to work at Mcdonalds because of my age.Too many people looking for the same job.The social security I have been paying in for my whole life and when I need it most I cant get it and the same with unemployment which I paid into my whole working life I barely get anything back.One year or more for the over 20 years of paying.Then turn on the teley and see these bankers get bailed out and also get huge million dollar bonuses and watch as they walk by the camera with their s**t eating grin on their faces like they got away with it.The rich will always dominate the poor and keep it that way.They have one million they want two ,it is just greed.I know not everyone can be rich and not everyone can be poor but do the rich have to take all the pie.If american people were treated like the big corporations treat others in Africa and Asia they would be singing a different tune.Vote with your dollar to protest doesnt really work because most things are a monoply,or just a few companies own alot of things.Protesting works to some degree by bringing attention to some issues but always covered by those big companies that own most things control what they want the majority to see.It almost has to come to a revolution,I am not condoning violence but what happens when you trap a rat ,it attacks.How much of a doormat can you be before you stand up for yourself even the most gentle of persons have their limit and will strike out.Capitalism has been predatory were the little guy gets squashed.The one with the most money wins and gets his way.This movement is a good thing and I hope it continues but I also hope it is not a part of the helegian dialectic for the TPTB

reply to post by celticdog


What you are saying or asking is, "when is enough, enough?
I ask the same myself, but that is not the topic at hand, what is the topic is the false report.
I would like proof.