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China reports bubonic plague outbreak.

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posted on Aug, 31 2004 @ 09:43 PM
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I'm going to cut/paste this because the link is reg' req'.


Bubonic plague has killed one person and made another sick in China, the Health Ministry said, appealing for efforts nationwide to prevent further outbreaks.

The cases were found earlier this year in China's impoverished west - one in Gansu province's Sunan county and another in Qinghai province's Qilian county, the ministry said on its web site, www.moh.gov.cn....

It did not say specifically when the cases were detected but the outbreak had been brought under control, the Beijing News quoted health officials as saying.

The bubonic plague bacterium, carried by rats and fleas, is commonly thought to have been the cause of the Black Death which decimated the population of Europe in the 14th century.

It has been largely eradicated worldwide, but surfaces from time to time. Dozens of cases were reported in China in the 1990s.

Here's the link but I don't think it will work,
www.smh.com.au...

Who knows what to believe from the Chinese government.
Sanc'.




posted on Aug, 31 2004 @ 09:49 PM
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SARS, the Bird Flue, now a bubonic plauge warning? Is China ramping up thier biowarefare capability? Why so many outbreaks? Population density may play a factor, but there is something else at work as well



posted on Aug, 31 2004 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
SARS, the Bird Flue, now a bubonic plauge warning? Is China ramping up thier biowarefare capability? Why so many outbreaks? Population density may play a factor, but there is something else at work as well


No, its population density. I'm actually surprised china doesn't have more problems with disease.

As for Bubonic plague...its not that big a deal. It lives on in many rodent populations and is curable with anti-biotics in the early to mid stages.

In a country of over 1 billion people I wouldn't even be concerned til something either killed over 10,000 or killed more than 1000 a week.



posted on Aug, 31 2004 @ 09:58 PM
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I've been wondering about China too. Why do they have so many weird diseases springing up? Poor sanitation? High population?



posted on Aug, 31 2004 @ 10:14 PM
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Same here I am wondering to if the government is using these diseases to control the population growth.

We all these outbreaks the next Olympics the athletes will have to wear biohazard suit just to stay in the safe side.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:02 AM
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Out here in the Western US we get several cases of Bubonic plague every couple of years - usually kids playing with wild animals. I can't remember anyone actually dying from it (thank you antibiotics). We worry more about Hantivirus and CWD than a little plague.

I think the reason for the death is either the guy didn't know what he had and didn't get treatment OR treatment wasn't available. I mean we are talking about China. Remember SARS - compare death rates in China to those in other countries. I think health care availability had a lot to do with mortality.

Just my 2cents.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:16 AM
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Im surprised zcheng hasnt come here and blamed it on the US, like he went blaming SARS as a bio attack on China by the US(obviously a paranoid delusion).



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by TACHYON
Im surprised zcheng hasnt come here and blamed it on the US, like he went blaming SARS as a bio attack on China by the US(obviously a paranoid delusion).




I was about to say that! I give him 7 more posts before he throws that out there. Any takers?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man
I was about to say that! I give him 7 more posts before he throws that out there. Any takers?


I say Zcheng paranoia in 5 more posts. His post will focus on the US spreading Bubonic Plague and then when asked to clarify he will post "What about the American Indians?" Or "What if Alaska wanted to leave the Union?"

But I still find it intersting that SARS and bird flue broke out in the same area. We still get bubonic plague here int he States, but its interesting that this may the first of many outbreaks.



[edit on 1-9-2004 by FredT]



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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I hear that diseases like this pop up all the time, due to the Japanese Unit 731. 731 was the massive Japanese CBW program in some respects far more brutal than the Nazi death camps. At the end of the war they released all they disease infected insects and animals into the countryside.

PS. US gave Unit 731 members immunity from prosecution in return for their test results on live humans.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by TACHYON
Im surprised zcheng hasnt come here and blamed it on the US, like he went blaming SARS as a bio attack on China by the US(obviously a paranoid delusion).


There are thousands of similar bombs left by Japan in WWII, mostly the product of Japanese 731. US got hold of the material of their research, and forgave the crimes committed by Japanese 731.

Chinese people remembers the atrocities done by Japan.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:04 PM
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I am extremely suspicious of China especially since they knew exactly where SARS came from. Cmon. Narrowing an illness down to a hotel. Seems odd to me.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by mad scientist
I hear that diseases like this pop up all the time, due to the Japanese Unit 731. 731 was the massive Japanese CBW program in some respects far more brutal than the Nazi death camps. At the end of the war they released all they disease infected insects and animals into the countryside.

PS. US gave Unit 731 members immunity from prosecution in return for their test results on live humans.


Thanks. Japanese army is more brutal than Nazis. Today, German people fully acknowledge their evil doing to other people, while Japanese people and government are still beautifying their atrocities and aggressions to China and neighboring countries.

In the 1970's, for the peace between Japan and China, China waived compensation of WWII. With such generosity, the Japanese is still not thankful to Chinese people and government. One day, they will payback for what they have done and that is long over due.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Indy
I am extremely suspicious of China especially since they knew exactly where SARS came from. Cmon. Narrowing an illness down to a hotel. Seems odd to me.


Yea, replace "hotel" with "bio weapons reserch lab" and that may be closer to the truth. I wonder if they jailed the doctor that let this leatest outbreak come to light?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by Indy
I am extremely suspicious of China especially since they knew exactly where SARS came from. Cmon. Narrowing an illness down to a hotel. Seems odd to me.


Yea, replace "hotel" with "bio weapons reserch lab" and that may be closer to the truth. I wonder if they jailed the doctor that let this leatest outbreak come to light?


Like the outbreak in Sverdlosk in Russia in 1980. A hundred people died from Anthrax, they told the US it was from contaminated meat. However the US found out that it was pulminary anthrax - which doesn't spread naturally only through weaponisation.
Anyway one of the shift workers removed a filter from a vent and forgot to replace it. The result being a plume of pulminary anthrax.



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by zcheng

In the 1970's, for the peace between Japan and China, China waived compensation of WWII. With such generosity, the Japanese is still not thankful to Chinese people and government. One day, they will payback for what they have done and that is long over due.


PAYBACK? that was many, many, many years ago friend... if every country went around giving PAYBACKS for situations that happened long ago, then we would all be fu**ed. any country who thinks they haven't done something to another that deserves paybacks, just hasn't looked back far enough... well except maybe canada...
and what happens when a new country takes over an old country ... do they also get to recieve the "paybacks" the old country "Deserved"? Japan is not the same country it was then... not in government and not in people... i doubt more than 2-5 people are still alive that truly would deserve the "payback". and if you can find them, hell... i will hold em down while you kick em...



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong

Originally posted by zcheng

In the 1970's, for the peace between Japan and China, China waived compensation of WWII. With such generosity, the Japanese is still not thankful to Chinese people and government. One day, they will payback for what they have done and that is long over due.


PAYBACK? that was many, many, many years ago friend... if every country went around giving PAYBACKS for situations that happened long ago, then we would all be fu**ed. any country who thinks they haven't done something to another that deserves paybacks, just hasn't looked back far enough... well except maybe canada...
and what happens when a new country takes over an old country ... do they also get to recieve the "paybacks" the old country "Deserved"? Japan is not the same country it was then... not in government and not in people... i doubt more than 2-5 people are still alive that truly would deserve the "payback". and if you can find them, hell... i will hold em down while you kick em...


Why should German still pay retributions for deeds done at similar time? Why should German still apologize for what they have done?



posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 01:37 PM
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Not only does Japan pay no compensation to the Chinese they refuse to acknowlege the millions of poeple they killed. Just look at the RAPE OF NANKING - as many as 300 000 Chinese were killed in the most brutal of ways. The Iraqi nutters were nothing compared to what the Japanese did to the Chinese. I haven't seen any Iraqi'a skin people alive.

What makes all this worse is that fufture generations of Japanese are told nothing about these atrocities. In fact they are told that there role in WW2 was freeing the Asian peoples from colonialism.

zcheng is right, China will have their revenge in the future. The Chinese have a very long memory, 1931-45 won't be forgotten.



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