Exposing the evils of Wicca Witchcraft!

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by WarminIndy
 


That is so true my friend... You just have to go to Jerusalem right now to see Christians being persecuted on a daily basis.

Satan has a bid for each teenager, and he is successfully luring many youth today into witchcraft through demonic TV, video games and books.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer is an American cult television series that initially aired from March 10, 1997 until May 20, 2003. The entire concept of vampirism is rooted in Satanism. Sadly, many teenagers have adapted to a vampire type of subculture known as GOTH.

Sabrina, the Teenage Witch is another one. Have a glimpse of this www.jesus-is-savior.com...
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Goth is nothing like vampires.. Goth means dressing in black and comes from the word gothic which is a mideval art style.

Get your facts straight.

And also, really? Buffy and Sabrina are not demonic brainwashing television, and most teenagers dont watch those anyways.




posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Jamjar
 


Jesus actually said wars would be started in his name, and that he condemned it.

My advice, pick up a Bible you will learn something instead of going off "what you've heard".
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Wasn't the bible written from mostly hearsay (what you've heard)?

Talking about circular logic...



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by mileysubet

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Jamjar
 


Jesus actually said wars would be started in his name, and that he condemned it.

My advice, pick up a Bible you will learn something instead of going off "what you've heard".
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Wasn't the bible written from mostly hearsay (what you've heard)?

Talking about circular logic...


It was also written over a long period of time, has several articles missing (Nostic gospels) and has heavy political implications put in by man.

But its still the word of god right?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Jesus did not need MagiK he had Divine Power, something we as mortals can't even begin to comprehend.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Churches in Africa are damaging the lives of children they believe are witches









It's actually quite heartbreaking
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


I did read the bible when I was young
it helped me choose what I believe now.

And I don't think you will be able to understand my point, so I bid you good night. TC



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by windword
 


Jesus did not need MagiK he had Divine Power, something we as mortals can't even begin to comprehend.


Again with the namecalling

I can call it magik, I can call it Divine Power, I can call it superpowers, I can call it witchcraft, hell, I can call it nuromanipulation if I feel like. Its all the same thing.

So now my question is, is this really what this thread is about? What to call stuff? Because it sure as hell feels like it.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by ELahrairah
Churches in Africa are damaging the lives of children they believe are witches







It's actually quite heartbreaking
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omg flying little boys!! FREAK OUT!!!!



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic
reply to post by Revolution9
 


Christianity, Islam.... matters not

both tools of oppression

both crutches for the weak willed.



Jesus Christ is not a tool of oppression. I don't think getting your head cut off, being hung by nails on a cross, fed to lions, tortured, murdered in all horrible ways for what you believe shows a weak will my friend.

Yes, my Savior is a crutch. He is stronger than anything on this earth! I am glad I can lean on Him.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by darkredfish
 




Totaly, he was "raised" to hate the bible. That makes perfect sense.

But it wasnt the illuminati that was raising him, or any other social media.

It was the fact that a lot of christians (not catholics, they are completely normal [most]) are bat# crazy.
I wouldn't want to read the bible either if I saw people standing on street corners screaming "YOUR GONNA GO TO HELL YOU FAGOOOOOOOT!" or "GOD HATES YOU!!!"



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by GonzoSinister
 


No i don't celebrate Christmas, have you anything else to offer accept the "religious nut" labelling?

It doesn't offend me though, those sort of labels are laughable. I will never stop spreading God's word and truth.


The problem here is that you are NOT spreading God's word or truth. Your spreading some warped personal perspective.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by GonzoSinister

Originally posted by Revolution9

Originally posted by GonzoSinister
REVGEN -

I have spotted you in a few threads recently hitting up your hollier than thou mumbo jumbo garbage....

Here are so points i would like you to digest... as a christian do you celebrate christmas? like in december around the 25th on month??

this IS A PAGAN FESTIVAL, i will not accept anything other than cold hard facts to dissprove that.. i know it too be fact, there were many days in the pagan religon which were incorporated into the Christian religon as a way to make those who practise pagan beliefs feel that christianity was a more accessible religon when the religon was being brough here.

Furthermore.. those who are Wicca, who follow witchcraft and or paganism.. dont care about your One true God, as he is only your one true God and not theres..

one of the major downfalls of religous nuts on here is they come on chanting about what GOD sais (in another thread you actually said GOD gave us the bible and it is fact) where we have no proof of such a belief in the lsightest, no historical evidence and actually if you look at the bible objectivley we know it has been changed and added to at least a handful of times to either cross language barriers or make it more accessible to the readers...

yet we are not here picking apart your religon... (i am niether a christian nor am i Wicca) no we go about talking about lazer beams, comets, OWS, Darkknight, chinese lanterns and end of days, like every day on here.. somehow about once every three days someone comes on with "factual" hollier then though garbage spewed up from a book of hearsay which is treated as fact by blind believers in Faith and we get verbally attacked for being sinners/wrong/uneducated/stupid for not believing in somthing which for all intesive purposes was a book written by men wanting to teach the masses a list of social rights and wrongs as a way to "better" themselves in an outdated and much simpler society.


Sorry Mods... i can see this getting deleted but i cannot handle the Im religous and right posts any more today!


And why can you not accept that people are different to you and have their own beliefs? Why does it make you angry that Christians post on here. Why don't you allow free speech, that both Wiccans and Christians can post here, so that we all become better informed about each other.

The world is full of diversity. Our only way forward is tolerance. I am up for that!

ps. as a Christian I do not celebrate Christmas, it is a Roman Saturn festival in origin and has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.



Thats exactly it though.. i am all for Christians posting.

very tollerant about it...

however it is in know ones place to preach see this is what happens, a guys attacks another religon in this case wicca, someone points out the short commings of his religon, you then get christians backing him up, it becomes all about flaming.. i hate i get sucked into it...

i just feel that anyone posting on this site should be posting somthing light hearted or somthing of actual information... recycled bible/koran/torah (sp) quotes have been done to death....

telling people how wrong they are or how living in sin they are is also not just done to death but intrusive into letting someone live the life they want...

you think an aethiest isnt aware the christian god wont look on him fondly for not worshiping, you think a wicca was under the false understand that Jesus isnt all about his magic?? no these things are things that educated people are aware of, its not like any religous based post damning anyone or trying to recruit people to a religon is bringing anything to the table


Thank you. That was all common sense! I respect people for whatever stance they take. I have known Wiccan people who are actually better behaved than some Christians - a great irony.

I'll remember your words here. I'll be sure not to be insensitive to the feelings of others who have different ideas.

Best wishes, my friend.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by kalamatas

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by GonzoSinister
 


No i don't celebrate Christmas, have you anything else to offer accept the "religious nut" labelling?

It doesn't offend me though, those sort of labels are laughable. I will never stop spreading God's word and truth.


The problem here is that you are NOT spreading God's word or truth. Your spreading some warped personal perspective.


If that is the case then please show me a claim that Ive made that is not backed up by scripture.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by darkredfish
reply to post by windword
 


And I have nothing against him, but a extremely powerful wiccan should not be honored, and than have his followers say that his kind is evil.

Oh the hypocrites...


Exactly! The OP's attempt to expose the "evils" of Wicca, only exposes his ignorance and hypocricy.

Whatever you call it, Jesus studdied and applied magic, mysticism, hockus pockus!



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by windword

Originally posted by darkredfish
reply to post by windword
 


And I have nothing against him, but a extremely powerful wiccan should not be honored, and than have his followers say that his kind is evil.

Oh the hypocrites...


Exactly! The OP's attempt to expose the "evils" of Wicca, only exposes his ignorance and hypocricy.

Whatever you call it, Jesus studdied and applied magic, mysticism, hockus pockus!


Witchcraft involves the manipulation of the demonic host, through incantations and the casting of spells. Witchcraft can also involve communication with demonic spirits impersonating the dead. The Bible clearly teaches that the dead cannot communicate with the living as there is a great chasm separating the dead from the living (Luke 16:26). Jesus did not need to cast spells as he had Divine Power, so powerful that,something we mortals can't even begin to comprehend.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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Principles of Wiccan Beliefs

1. We practice rites to attune ourselves with the natural rhythm of life
forces marked by the phases of the Moon and the
seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarter.

2. We recognize that our intelligence gives us a unique responsibility
toward our environment. We seek to live in harmony with Nature, in
ecological balance offering fulfillment to
life and consciousness within an evolutionary concept.

3. We acknowledge a depth of power far greater than that apparent to the
average person. Because it is far greater than ordinary it is sometimes
called supernatural, but we see it as lying within that which is naturally
potential to all.

4. We conceive of the Creative Power in the universe as
manifesting through polarity -- as masculine and feminine -- and that this
same Creative Power lies in all people, and functions through the
interaction of the masculine and feminine. We value neither above the
other, knowing each to be supportive to the other. We value sex as
pleasure, as the symbol and embodiment
of life, and as one of the sources of energies used in magickal practice
and religious worship.

5. We recognize both outer worlds and inner, or psychological, worlds
sometimes known as the Spiritual World, the Collective Unconscious, Inner
Planes, etc. -- and we see in the inter-action of these two dimensions the
basis for paranormal phenomena and magickal exercises. We neglect neither
dimension for the other, seeing both as necessary for our fulfillment.

6. We do not recognize any authoritarian hierarchy, but do honor those who
teach, respect those who share their greater knowledge and wisdom, and
acknowledge those who have courageously given of themselves in leadership.


7. We see religion, magick and wisdom in living as being united in the way
one views the world and lives within it -- a world view and philosophy of
life which we identify as Witchcraft -- the Wiccan Way.

8. Calling oneself "Witch" does not make a Witch -- but neither does
heredity itself, not the collecting of titles, degrees and initiations. A
Witch seeks to control the forces within her/himself that make life
possible in order to live wisely and well without harm to others and in
harmony with Nature.

9. We believe in the affirmation and fulfillment of life in a
continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning
to the Universe we know and our personal roll within it.

10. Our only animosity towards Christianity, or towards any other religion
or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have claimed
to be "the only way" and have sought to deny freedom to others and to
suppress other ways of religious practice and belief.

11. As Witches, we are not threatened by debates on the history
of the Craft, the origins of various terms, the legitimacy of various
aspects of different traditions. We are concerned with our present and our
future.

12. We do not accept the concept of absolute evil, nor do we worship any
entity known as "Satan" or "the Devil", as defined by the Christian
traditions. We do not seek power through the suffering of others, nor
accept that personal benefit can be derived only by denial to another.

13. We believe that we should seek within Nature that which is
contributory to our health and well-being.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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You are still committing a grave sin which the Bible condemns. God hates witchcraft and I can provide scripture to prove it.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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You loosely use the term, witchcraft, magic, and wicca like they are all the same and you know all there is to know about it, but you are misinformed and wrong.

Here is Allister Crowley's definition of magic:



MAGICK
and the right comprehension and right application thereof.
I) DEFINITION.

Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.

(Illustration: It is my Will to inform the World of certain facts within my knowledge. I therefore take "magickal weapons", pen, ink, and paper; I write "incantations"---these sentences---in the "magickal language" ie, that which is understood by the people I wish to instruct; I call forth "spirits", such as printers, publishers, booksellers and so forth and constrain them to convey my message to those people. The composition and distribution of this book is thus an act of Magick by which I cause Changes to take place in conformity with my Will.)

In one sense Magick may be defined as the name given to Science by the vulgar.



And



A Man who is doing his True Will has the inertia of the Universe to assist him.


You are practicing magic right now, using the internet and ATS to inform us of you will!

And Yeah, Jesus practiced magic.

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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The Wiccan Way

Recognizing that there is more than one path to spiritual
enlightenment and that Wicca is but one of many, and that Wicca
holds within itself the belief that there is more than one type of
step set to the spiral dance, find here listed common denominators
of the Craft.

That there is above all the Goddess in her three-fold aspect and many
are her names. With all her names we call her Maiden, Mother and
Crone.

That there is the God, consort and son, giver of strength and most
willing of sacrifice.

That and it harm none, do what ye will shall be the law.

That each of her children are bound by the three-fold law and that
whatever we create, be it joy or sorrow, laughter or pain, is brought
back to us three-fold.

That as she is the mother of all living things and we are all her
children, we seek to live in harmony not only with each other, but
with the planet earth that is our womb and home.

That life upon the earth is not a burden to be born, but a joy to be
learned and shared with others.

That death is not an ending of existence, but a step in the on-going
process of life.

That there is no sacrifice of blood, for She is the mother of all
living things, and from her all things proceed and unto her all
things must return.

That each and everyone of the children who follow this path has
no need of another between themselves and the Goddess, but may find
Her within themselves.

That there shall not by intent be a desecration of another's symbols
of beliefs, for we are all seeking harmony within the One.

That each person's faith is private unto themselves and that
another's belief is not to be set out and made public.

That the Wiccan way is not to seek converts, but that the way be
made open to those who for reasons of their own seek and find the
Craft.





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