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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Wow , why don't you tell me how you really feel
Actually within the wiccan community , there are so many varying beliefs and practices that it's almost impossible to even bunch them all together. I think what you really meant to say is that ANYONE who doesn't believe in the bible or Christianity are a bunch of heathen scum. I could make this very long winded but what's the point ?




posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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I don't think God would approve of your use of time in authoring this thread. Your focus doesn't seem to be in a very Christ-like place.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Doesn't seem like you have studied history much at all then, ever heard of the saying don't shoot the messenger?

You blame Christ for things that ungodly men have done, when he even said himself that such atrocities would be done in his name.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Expat888
having met many christians (unfortuneatly) and wiccans over the years in my travels along with having studied history..
By far Christianity is the most barbaric, evil, narrowminded, bloodthirsty religion there is.. With its history of bloodshed, mass murder and wars Christianity has created and continues to create misery in the world..


What about all the murder, slavery, exploitation, torture, etc committed by Babylon, Egypt and Rome? What about all the millions of child and adult sacrifices to the Sun gods and the human sacrifices practiced in some parts of Africa still? What about all the mediums and charlatans of medicine, healing and astrology who use charms that have no power and give people false expectations while charging a fee?

No one is perfect!



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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Christianity, Islam.... matters not

both tools of oppression

both crutches for the weak willed.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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REVGEN -

I have spotted you in a few threads recently hitting up your hollier than thou mumbo jumbo garbage....

Here are so points i would like you to digest... as a christian do you celebrate christmas? like in december around the 25th on month??

this IS A PAGAN FESTIVAL, i will not accept anything other than cold hard facts to dissprove that.. i know it too be fact, there were many days in the pagan religon which were incorporated into the Christian religon as a way to make those who practise pagan beliefs feel that christianity was a more accessible religon when the religon was being brough here.

Furthermore.. those who are Wicca, who follow witchcraft and or paganism.. dont care about your One true God, as he is only your one true God and not theres..

one of the major downfalls of religous nuts on here is they come on chanting about what GOD sais (in another thread you actually said GOD gave us the bible and it is fact) where we have no proof of such a belief in the lsightest, no historical evidence and actually if you look at the bible objectivley we know it has been changed and added to at least a handful of times to either cross language barriers or make it more accessible to the readers...

yet we are not here picking apart your religon... (i am niether a christian nor am i Wicca) no we go about talking about lazer beams, comets, OWS, Darkknight, chinese lanterns and end of days, like every day on here.. somehow about once every three days someone comes on with "factual" hollier then though garbage spewed up from a book of hearsay which is treated as fact by blind believers in Faith and we get verbally attacked for being sinners/wrong/uneducated/stupid for not believing in somthing which for all intesive purposes was a book written by men wanting to teach the masses a list of social rights and wrongs as a way to "better" themselves in an outdated and much simpler society.


Sorry Mods... i can see this getting deleted but i cannot handle the Im religous and right posts any more today!



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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"WITCH" as defined in the Bible:

Please give the Greek and/or Aramaic word used
that was translated in the King James Version
as "Witch." Then let us translate it fully.
You will find it means "a poisoner of wells."

WRONG! You will find no such thing. (It seems that I have to correct
THIS error about once every six months.)

HEBREW: Strong's Exhaustive Concordance shows seven references to the
words "witch," "witchcraft," and "witchcrafts." It identifies three
words as receiving that translation.

Two of them are the same root word: kashaph and kesheph. Strong's
observes that the proper translation for kashaph is "to whisper" as in
to whisper or mutter a spell. If they are correct, then perhaps the
best possible modern translations would be "enchanter" and
"enchantments" (from "chant"). In this context, Exodus 22:18 would
read, "Thou shalt not permit an enchanter to live."

The remaining word is used only once, and that is qecem, which Strong's
identifies as derived from qacem, which means to determine by drawing
lots. They give the translation, based on this, as being "divination"
as in to read random elements such as tarot cards. By this context, I
Samuel 15:23 would read, "For rebellion is as the sin of divination."
GREEK: According to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, the word "witch"
does not appear in the KJV New Testament; the word "witchcraft" appears
once in Galations 5:20. In that verse the Greek given is indeed the
much-mistranslated word pharmakeia. Strong's gives its derivation as
being from pharmakeus, which means potion. The word pharmakeus does not
appear anywhere in Greek literature to refer to "poison" except--and
there only if you really stretch it--in the trial of Paracelsus, the
father of modern medicine.

In early Greek thought, a physik was an herbal remedy, and was
perscribed by physicians, or respected doctors. (Yes, early Greek
doctors were exclusively herbalists.) A conflicting school of thought
claimed that pharmakeoi, or potions derived from non-living matter,
might also have effect in some diseases. So in Galations 5:20, Paul is
telling us that those who use chemical potions (such as aspirin or
Tylenol) to cure diseases or disease symptoms are accursed of God.
In conclusion: the Greek New Testament nowhere refers to anything
resembling the modern religion or practices of Witchcraft. (Although it
is interesting to note that the first 11 apostles practiced something
roughly like qacem to pick a 12th--and if the later accounts are to be
read correctly, came up with a wrong answer.) The Hebrew Old Testament,
on the other hand, contains many unambiguous prohibitions of magical
practices, including (but not limited to) chanting of spells and
divination from random elements.

(Reference: James Strong ed., _Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the
Bible_, 1894, as published by Abingdon Press, 1975.)

-Brad Hicks

www.beyondweird.com...

You should brush up on translations as well.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now we know how deeply and completely you hate Wicca. As a Wiccan myself, I appreciate knowing who has such deep hatred. I know who to avoid and watch carefully in future threads. Hate is such an ugly thing....and wow... there are two full pages of it.

I wonder, if I were equally dark in my feelings toward any major religion, like yours for instance, how would it be taken if I went off on a two page rant to tear into the Faith and basically stomp down on anyone who followed it? You, sir, just did exactly that to me and everyone else here who follow a Pagan faith or Wicca in particular.

I'm just curious...What was it about today, and this topic in particular that made you sit back and say to yourself "Self, this is a great day to go deeply insult and generally infuriate some fellow ATS members by calling them evil devil worshipers"?


I have no Hatred for wiccans as people, but i do have hatred for the sin of witchcraft which is evil and against God. My word's offend you because you know what i write is true, and you have absolutely nothing to defend your religion with except for saying i'm trying to be hateful, which isn't the case.

The purpose of this thread is to expose the wiccan religion as all forms of witchcraft are condemned in the Bible.

I made this thread today because it is coming up to Halloween (Satanic pagan celebration) and witchcraft will be at its peak during these times and i've also noticed more wiccan propaganda on ATS as of late, such as tarrot card reading amongst other sinful things which I am here to expose.

My feelings aren't dark, my heart is a beacon of light... I do not hate anyone but I am simply exposing that which is sinful as the bible tells me to do. If Wicca is not sinful then feel free to defend your position but by judging from your first response i don't think you can since all you've done is attack my person and not refuted any of what ive said.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Oh so paganism was around before the Old testament? I don't think so...

Paganism is not the old religion you say it is, paganism was formed in rebellion to the God of Abraham our true God Yahweh. Moses also exposed the pagan God's as being false when he brought Yahweh's wrath to Egypt...


Says who?

You are getting your information from a book that was heavily edited and manipulated 300 years after the so called fact. The Bible is the best selling book of fiction ever written.

Paganism in its different forms is as old as man. Are you saying all the other religions have also got it wrong as well? ........... bigot.

Anyone can make up a religion and say that the little green man made a man and a woman blah blah blah, but there is absolutely no proof whatsover.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by GonzoSinister
REVGEN -

I have spotted you in a few threads recently hitting up your hollier than thou mumbo jumbo garbage....

Here are so points i would like you to digest... as a christian do you celebrate christmas? like in december around the 25th on month??

this IS A PAGAN FESTIVAL, i will not accept anything other than cold hard facts to dissprove that.. i know it too be fact, there were many days in the pagan religon which were incorporated into the Christian religon as a way to make those who practise pagan beliefs feel that christianity was a more accessible religon when the religon was being brough here.

Furthermore.. those who are Wicca, who follow witchcraft and or paganism.. dont care about your One true God, as he is only your one true God and not theres..

one of the major downfalls of religous nuts on here is they come on chanting about what GOD sais (in another thread you actually said GOD gave us the bible and it is fact) where we have no proof of such a belief in the lsightest, no historical evidence and actually if you look at the bible objectivley we know it has been changed and added to at least a handful of times to either cross language barriers or make it more accessible to the readers...

yet we are not here picking apart your religon... (i am niether a christian nor am i Wicca) no we go about talking about lazer beams, comets, OWS, Darkknight, chinese lanterns and end of days, like every day on here.. somehow about once every three days someone comes on with "factual" hollier then though garbage spewed up from a book of hearsay which is treated as fact by blind believers in Faith and we get verbally attacked for being sinners/wrong/uneducated/stupid for not believing in somthing which for all intesive purposes was a book written by men wanting to teach the masses a list of social rights and wrongs as a way to "better" themselves in an outdated and much simpler society.


Sorry Mods... i can see this getting deleted but i cannot handle the Im religous and right posts any more today!


And why can you not accept that people are different to you and have their own beliefs? Why does it make you angry that Christians post on here? Why don't you allow free speech, that both Wiccans and Christians can post here, so that we all become better informed about each other?

The world is full of diversity. Our only way forward is tolerance. I am up for that!

ps. as a Christian I do not celebrate Christmas, it is a Roman Saturn festival in origin and has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
edit on 28-10-2011 by Revolution9 because: punctuation



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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No i don't celebrate Christmas, have you anything else to offer accept the "religious nut" labelling?

It doesn't offend me though, those sort of labels are laughable. I will never stop spreading God's word and truth.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Oh so paganism was around before the Old testament? I don't think so...

Paganism is not the old religion you say it is, paganism was formed in rebellion to the God of Abraham our true God Yahweh. Moses also exposed the pagan God's as being false when he brought Yahweh's wrath to Egypt...


Actually the earliest known date of the Old Testament being written is about 2100BC.

So Pagans had almost a 3000 year head start on monotheism. Take the Sumerians, the Egyptians, hell any culture before the Hebrews. Paganism was the first form of organized religion which evolved out of stellar worship (i.e. Sun Worship, Lunar Worship, etc).

Your only evidence is your faith, and as long as it leads on the path of truth I can respect that. Just dont preach hate in the name of God,. All paths lead to the same mountain into the loving, forgiving arms of God. “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." God knows were confused, life is a struggle to understand.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Hence, based on the Bible, ALL witches are wicked including Wiccans. So Christian... if unholy-wood and a bunch of confused Wiccans tell you that white witches are good, who are you going to believe? Them or the Bible?

We define good or bad in relation to the Bible and the Bible ALONE. The Bible is our FINAL AUTHORITY.


Oh man.


In the Bible, "God" killed the first-born son of every family in Egypt. Does that mean that if there's some country we think is bad, we should go kill all their first-born sons too?

In the Bible, "God" totally wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah. Does that mean that we should go kill everyone in San Francisco?

Well, there's probably hundreds more examples, but I'm sure you get the point....



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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Oh My........ I assume that your statement that "All pagan religions serve the devil" can be backed up by proof other than what you've posted, because as a practicing Shinto, as have been at least the past 20 or so generations of my family, I find that very very disconcerting. Christianity didn't even hit Japan until the 1800's and even then wasn't met with the welcome arms.

This is the 21st Century, wake up and smell the napalm, this sort of religious dogma should no longer be tolerated, too many wars, and atrocities are commited on the basis of "me religion is right and yours isn't" that maybe NONE of us have it right. I do know this though, true god, true goddess, what in the end does it matter.

As long as you have faith in SOMETHING.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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by the way pagan means rural person,heathen means you live in a grass hut,and 'witch'(wiccan) means someone who knows. christian means some poor dupe that has been lied to for 2000 years by a guy wearing a funny hat that looks strangely like the ripped it off from the egyptians and the sumerians, happy halloween,merry christmas and all the other celebrations you stole from other cultures



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by reficul
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listen dingbat,the king james bible your quoting from is already known to mistranslate the word witch from poisoner. 'thou shall not let a poisoner(witch) to live' your religious bigotry is not welcome here.
your the person who nearly wiped out the american indian's beliefs,as well as the tribes of celtic scotland,ireland,and wales. your opinion of your god has caused countless bloody murders,war and death throughout this world that is unimaginable. you and your kind disgust me. I AM A PAGAN,AND PROUD OF IT!!!.
your so called satanist are a branch of your own religion! we don't have a devil to blame bad stuff on,we take responsability for our own actions.
you are the one thats gonna burn in your own hellfire that you created.
us pagans know that our soul is forever
you are the reason i hate christians - not the Christ. do yourself a favour and listen to his teachings,not your warped interpretations of them. maybe you can check out Buddah,or the Dali Lamma
if your gonna post such crap on this site,be prepared for opposition,and i have been studying religion for 40 years,and i can promise i know more about yours than you do!
thanx for pissing me off


Wrong. You boast of your superior knowledge of The Christian Scriptures yet do you not know of all the episodes in the Bible that deal with witchcraft? There are heaps. It is an abomination to Our LORD to practice it. Please refer to my earlier comment about Pagan sacrifice, etc.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by Lysergic
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The Devil never actually existed.


Biggest trick the Devil pulled was to convince people he doesn't exist!


IF the devil was real, and he is the great deceiver, then the biggest deceit he could pull off could maybe be the one where he pretends to be the son of God around 2000 years ago. Not saying its true, just showing how using your argument can backfire.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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Hello friend, I am not tolerant of other peoples religious beliefs Christianity simply isn't like that, so bigot is fine with me, Jesus is the only way and that will not change. I can already tell you are proud, your pride is what blinds you from the truth, it is said that only the humble will inherit the kingdom of God, i am glad i humbled myself some time ago. I welcome all opposition of my words because I know that truth is on my side.

Maybe the reason its taken you 40 years to study religion and still got it wrong is because you haven't humbled yourself. I suggest trying it if you can it leads to a much better life.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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That doesn't work I'm afraid, read the new testament and you'll see why.





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