[EDIT]Translated Declaration of Independence - I believe this is needed..., page
Pages:
ATS Members have flagged this thread 3 times
Topic started on 28-10-2011 @ 11:03 AM by WhiteSpectralMirror
What spurred me to do this was reading an article about the Indiana courts ruling to allow police officers to violate the illegal search and seizure amendment whenever they please. Article here: www.foxnews.com...

I began to think about how people don't understand these rights, and how a lot of it may be due simply to the wording used in the good olde days, so I decided to "translate" the most important piece of American writing.

Feel free to modify, add input, or share with anyone. In this day and age where our education system is so horrible people can barely type full words without using txt speak, maybe, just maybe a more modern translation of this will wake a few people up to the abuses of our government. Heck I'd like this to come back around to me as a viral posting on Facebook.


ORIGINAL

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are bearable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."


MY INTERPRETATION

"We establish these facts to be recognized by everyone, all men are created equal, and they are given by their Creator certain rights that cannot be taken away, among these are Life, Freedom, and the pursuit of Happiness. To ensure these rights, governments are created by Men, and are provided their powers from the consent of the citizens. If whenever any form of govenment becomes destructive to any of these rights, it is the right of the people to change or get rid of it, and to create a new government, at its foundation being the ideas, and arranging its powers in a way that to them will be most likely to ensure the safety and happiness of the citizens. Caution should be used so that long established governments should not be changed for un-important or short-lived causes; because of that, all experience has shown that mankind is more likely to suffer, while the evils are bearable than to correct these evils by getting rid of the laws and processes that they are used to. However, when a long train of abuses and seizures of these rights cleary demonstrates a goal to rule them under absolute tyrrany, it is their right, it is their duty, to get rid of such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. This has been the patient tolerance of these United States of America; and it is now necessary because of this repression for the citizens to alter their former system of government."
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: re-phrase
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: Edit to fix title
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:33 AM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by WhiteSpectralMirror



Good example of why we need to update these things. You can argue over the correctness of that translation all day, and they do just that. In the end it's been twisted far beyond what it was supposed to mean.


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:34 AM by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by WhiteSpectralMirror



Exactly who are we declaring our independence from???


Is England oppressing us again that we have to re-define what our grievences are against them???

Because you do know that is who the Declaration of Independence was addressed to...right?


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:38 AM by sicksonezer0
reply to post by CynicalDrivel



Im not denying that, I bought a book printed in the late 1800's, it was a small book about spirituality, and the how things are written are interesting, and almost sad, because its elegance that has long since passed. Even penmanship has taken a nosedive since then, mine included


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:42 AM by intrptr
reply to post by WhiteSpectralMirror



Now, if we can only get them to put your "laymans" version in video games...
Most people would "skip this add" anyway.


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:42 AM by WhiteSpectralMirror
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to
post by WhiteSpectralMirror



Exactly who are we declaring our independence from???


Is England oppressing us again that we have to re-define what our grievences are against them???

Because you do know that is who the Declaration of Independence was addressed to...right?


This was not to declare independence, this translation was made by me because I feel that a lot of people have no clue what the founding fathers were talking about when they wrote the original. I am not saying I know more than them or even as much, my point is that the average person today would really have trouble comprehending what is being said in these documents.

True story, I had 2 people in 1 day ask me what a "merchant" was when signing the merchant copy of a credit card receipt. If your average person has this much trouble with daily words, how can we expect them to fully understand things such as the Declaration and Constitution?
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:48 AM by negativenihil
Originally posted by WhiteSpectralMirror
In this day and age where our education system is so horrible


You rip on the education system, yet display almost no grasp of what you've posted. Bravo

en.wikipedia.org...

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies then at war with Great Britain regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.


I'm guessing what you REALLY meant was the Bill of Rights?

en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:48 AM by intrptr
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to
post by WhiteSpectralMirror


Exactly who are we declaring our independence from???

Is England oppressing us again that we have to re-define what our grievences are against them???

Because you do know that is who the Declaration of Independence was addressed to...right?

Are you kidding? Thats the beauty of the document. It declares the right to be free from all oppression.
The right to be "in" dependent of, not "de"pendent on some ruling class, governing system, church, bully, whatever, wherever.



reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:53 AM by WhiteSpectralMirror
Originally posted by negativenihil
Originally posted by WhiteSpectralMirror
In this day and age where our education system is so horrible


You rip on the education system, yet display almost no grasp of what you've posted. Bravo

en.wikipedia.org...

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies then at war with Great Britain regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.


I'm guessing what you REALLY meant was the Bill of Rights?

en.wikipedia.org...



Yes I realized this after posting, my mistake. All part of trying to make a good post while at work and taking calls all day.

EDIT: And I just learned you can edit thread titles, interesting some forums don't let you do that.
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)


Edit Again: www.archives.gov... I was right. Grrr. Bill of Rights = first 10 amendments.
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)
edit on 28-10-2011 by WhiteSpectralMirror because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 10-11-2011 @ 04:28 PM by Hugues de Payens
reply to post by WhiteSpectralMirror



The Declaration is NOT the most imoprtant piece of American writing.

That document is known as the Constitution. This is THE document which recognizes and guarantees your natural born rights as a US citizen. It was designed to protect you from government excess ( see the TJ quotes in my signature).

There are no amendments to the Declaration. It was written to justify our split from England as its colony. Those amendmends are to the Constitution which is the supreme law of the land. Respect and love for that document are the reason this country has been, for over two hundred years, THE example of how men can self govern free of tyrany.

However, that respect and love has slowly eroded over the years and is now despised by those in power....on both sides of the isle.

I am glad I will not be alive in 50 years.
Pages:     ^^TOP^^



Ron Paul is NOT dropping out, the Mainstream Media is LYING.
  Posted 15 days ago with 111 member flags
Report: Romney Will Be Disqualified From Race Due To Fraud
  Posted 18 days ago with 105 member flags
Evidence of Vote Flipping in GOP Primary Elections
  Posted 7 days ago with 88 member flags
Fox News Analyst: First American to shoot down drone will be a hero
  Posted 14 days ago with 68 member flags
Mitt Romney scared Ron Paul is winning!!!
  Posted 7 days ago with 62 member flags
Let\'s just say it: Political Parties are the Problem
  Posted 12 days ago with 60 member flags