A Message To OWS And Those Who Serve The Public Those Who Are Vilifed., page 3
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reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 12:41 AM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by ownbestenemy


I'm not a cop so I must be lying. I was the manager that called them I went to tell the police what was going on when they got there. They called the kids over and began to question them. The kid moved a bit and the guy drew his gun. The kid freaked out and I asked him why he would point a gun at a kid, that was his answer.


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 01:22 AM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by ownbestenemy


I was standing beside him! Why the heck do you think I would question a police officer if it wasn't serious? I saw his finger in the trigger loop which was more than close enough to the trigger. You don't point guns at people unless you intend to kill them. I'm sorry but a skateboard is not a lethal weapon.

I'm not a fearful person, I remember things pretty well.
edit on 28-10-2011 by Evolutionsend because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 01:27 AM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by ownbestenemy


Like I said, I'm not a cop so I'm not capable of telling you anything accurately.


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 01:37 AM by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by ownbestenemy


Like I said, I'm not a cop so I'm not capable of telling you anything accurately.


And a police officer is no different than yourself. The Courts (in regard to "eyewitness accounts) have recognized this fact; that humans, regardless of their respective ranks, station or position are incapable of providing accurate and objective accounts.

Even if you were an officer, I would hold the same skepticism as I do now.
edit on 28-10-2011 by ownbestenemy because: Clarified




reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 10:55 AM by hmdphantom
reply to post by neo96


It is all clear that Obama is buying time and it is against the movement. That is one of the causes that I said OWS needs a leader.

A worthy leader. And people should deny the leadership of unworthy people who claim they are their leaders.

OWS needs a leader .

Edited : how much longer will the people keep coming to the streets to say , I am the 99% ?


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reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 11:01 AM by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by beezzer


Speak for yourself. I vilify them and have zero faith in the police to serve and protect. If I want real help I'll call my Dad or a friend. The only thing I would ever call 911 for is an ambulance or a fire engine.

Your choice.
I personally think most law enforcement officers are good people who do a job because they believe in it. I think they are an easy target.

OWS is like a petulent child. They break the law willingly, then when punished, scream about how mean they (the cops) were.

You don't want the police? Cool. That is your right. Personally, I think they are that line that keeps criminals in check.




Have they broken a law or an ordinance? Does the Constitution not give them the Right to assemble and protest? Lemme guess....if you were alive you would have been one of the Pilgrims refusing to leave for America because, "We're breaking the law by doing so".


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 12:55 PM by My_Reality
reply to post by beezzer


You said.


I figured people would use this as an example. But if we're to apply a basis for their actions on ONE indivdual, then why not use a cop who saved a life?

Oh yeah, because then it wouldn't support your argument.


Sure, we could use a cop that saved a life. We can also use an individual who was framed by a cop as a basis for an argument against them...

Than you said.


Again, when you apply specifics to support generalizations, then I can say that because you disagree with me, and in the past, someone who disagreed with me was a drooling moron, you must be a . . . . . .


You should get your arguments straight. You berate people for applying specifics to support generalizations. However, you posted a specific generalization to support your argument:


But I'm not going to take the word of a rock-thrower that some cop overstepped his bounds when he clubbed some punk that broke the law.



Laughable. It is obvious that you support collective authority over individuals. Also, why is it that you do not answer the questions directed at you regarding the Oakland incident? I assume that you have nothing of substance to offer - which is why you blow the question off and spout nonsense about specific generalizations.

To address your OP: It would be impossible for police to be baited into violence if the authorities would refrain from making controversial arrests. The protesters would have no where to go in regards to an argument if authorities arrested only people that are blatantly breaking the law. It would be a win-win for both sides. The police making good and legitimate arrests. The protesters having the trouble making, possibly violent elements removed. It is just too bad that most authorities believe their power is absolute and refuse compromise or mediation.


reply posted on 28-10-2011 @ 01:32 PM by xuenchen
reply to post by My_Reality




To address your OP: It would be impossible for police to be baited into violence if the authorities would refrain from making controversial arrests.



Unless,

they "stage" the illegal activity with shills.

stranger things have happened.

Lights, Action, Camera

Didn't some demonstrations in Toronto do just that?

Sick societies have sick responses.
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