Originally posted by UnaChispa
'Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.'

Point taken, we are in agreement there.

Seems to me his only hope is to turn a hostile situation into a bloody one.


Too many morons thinking violence is going to fix the world.

Oh lovely.
Because we need more traffic and problems in Phoenix...

I think it is too early to bring guns to the show. It may eventually come down to this, but at this stage the protests should serve to raise awareness of public disatisfaction with the current status quo, both with the people and the government..

Most cops and protesters have shown great restraint thus far and I hope it continues this way till the end. No blood should be shed unless absolutely necessary. If middle easterns can bring down their tyrants for the most part peacefully, then I see no reason why this cannot happen in the USA as well. We don't necassarily need to bring down the government, all we need tp do is change it for the better; make it smaller, more efficient and most importantly obedient. The corporations have taken over and Occupy exists in the hope of reversing this trend!

I like guns very much but I also respect their potential for great harm. if someone looses their cool and starts firing away it can get ugly really fast. Then the corporate media picks up on this and demonises the second amendment making it virtually impossible to own firearms. Nevermind if martial law gets declared and we have to deal with the military. Sure many veterans will be on the peoples' side but many lapdogs will go with the PTB in hope of keeping their jobs.

A revolution is inevitable, I prefer to fight it while my reflexes are still fast and my eyes can still hit targets at 1000 yards. Hopefully this will start the shooting war just as the "Shot Heard Round the World" at Concord.

I dont think forming armed militia is necessary at any peaceful protest. This is going a bit too far, and as someone pointed it out, if he started shooting rubber bullets at the cops he'd be shot dead by real ones very quickly.

Certain elements in this protest movement seem as if they would love it to degenerate into some kind of civil war.

That's not the mentality of a patriot.

Originally posted by Aestheteka
In the UK we used to have an unspoken rule - the police don't carry guns so criminals don't shoot them. Our police were respected bobbies because they walked the beat alone with only a truncheon for worst case scenarios. They had to have a certain height, which when combined with the huge helmet on their heads and their usual ex-army background (plus boxing as a hobby), made them extremely imposing. I grew up in a rough market town which had one old bobby who had to clear out the pubs on a friday and saturday night on his own. He loved a good punch up and was a well-respected bloke for it.
Then came the third-world immigrants. The old boy gangster has gone, along with the rules of the trade, and in their place we have 14 year olds shooting each other and the police. So now the police carry machine guns and the law-abiding public have been completely disarmed.
I remember the good old days when you ddin't even need ID and you could state your name as Mickey Mouse if you wanted. You'd probably get a kicking for doing so but it was your right as a British subject.
The police are there to protect the peace. Pointing guns at them is so utterly stupid that I can't find the words for it. But, then again, the UK isn't America. It just wouldn't be cricket.

One other huge difference between the US and UK is that the British army swears allegiance to the Queen and her family. And they are trained to obey orders without question. Which side do you think they'd take if the protests turned ugly?

edit on 28-10-2011 by Aestheteka because: more info

Ah, the good old days when you could leave your back door unlocked and a pint of milk only cost two ears of corn. Never existed. To anyone reading the above, don't believe it. Not one word. We are safer from crime now than we've ever been - crime has been falling for years, but curiously the fear of being a victim keeps rising. Never mind, let's pin the blame on a select group of people, let's say ones with brown or black skin and a particular religion.

You can own a gun in the UK so long as you check out not to be a criminal or a psychopath. The population is not 'disarmed' because there was never any gun culture in the same way as the USA.

Video taken down because of copyright infringement? Since when do the networks give a crap who reruns their news stories. Oh yeah, when they show resistance against their hired thugs. Interesting that they haven't picked up on the fact their side has hijacked the 'movement' to further the liberal agenda: Steal form the rich and give to the poor.

I think this is great. Exactly why our founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment. It should keep the police from doing anything stupid. Most of the cops you see are usually only carrying handguns. I wouldnt take a man with an AR on with a handgun