Record-Low 26% in U.S. Favor Handgun Ban, page
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Topic started on 26-10-2011 @ 01:57 PM by neo96
PRINCETON, NJ -- A record-low 26% of Americans favor a legal ban on the possession of handguns in the United States other than by police and other authorized people. When Gallup first asked Americans this question in 1959, 60% favored banning handguns. But since 1975, the majority of Americans have opposed such a measure, with opposition around 70% in recent years.


www.gallup.com...

This is surprising it really is considering what has been going on lately i attribute this to either 1 or two things:

Zombies and Social Unrest(kidding)

I consider the low approval a good thing but i am hesitant on the reasoning behind the large up swing in support. For the longest time guns are evil BAN! BAN! BAN! them.

Something else to consider here is the scandal's involving the current administration with the lack of "gun contro" and people have woken up to the fact that they were the ones trying to deny you the right to own them.

As the Founding Fathers knew well, a government that does not trust its honest, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens with the means of self-defense is not itself worthy of trust. Laws disarming honest citizens proclaim that the government is the master, not the servant, of the people. -- Jeff Snyder


So Ats what possible motives have their been a major paradigm shift of thought on gun control?


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 02:08 PM by Q:1984A:1776
reply to post by neo96



I think there is starting to be a paradigm shift back to the principals that founded this nation. Even with the mainstream Republican candidates, you see all kinds of talk about upholding the constitution. The fact that it is all propaganda and political posturing aside, this to me, seems to be indicative of the population finally waking up to the fact that if you relinquish one right, the rest are soon to follow. That 26% that support the ban on firearms are either the percentage of the population with an IQ under 80, or people too cowardly to except that it is their sole responsibility to defend themselves.
edit on 26-10-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: I know the difference between "too" and "to" but that wasn't reflected in my post.



reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 02:17 PM by Triggerhippie
reply to post by neo96



The teaparty and neo confederates constant chatter of retaking the country back since 09 probably play a role as well as the high unemployment rate from the "haves/have not" perspective.

Careful what you wish for.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 02:19 PM by neo96
reply to post by Triggerhippie



Careful what they wish for.

I do not wish for "revolution" i wish for "evolution" of the human spirit.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 02:41 PM by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
I think it says a lot about the direction in which the country is headings..

Consider this....

"As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

In no particular order, early American settlers viewed the right to arms and/or the right to bear arms and/or state militias as important for one or more of these purposes:
deterring undemocratic government;
repelling invasion;
suppressing insurrection;
facilitating a natural right of self-defense;
participating in law enforcement;
enabling the people to organize a militia system

A foundation of American political thought during the Revolutionary period was the well justified concern about political corruption and governmental tyranny. Even the federalists, fending off their opponents who accused them of creating an oppressive regime, were careful to acknowledge the risks of tyranny."

Wiki-2nd Amendment

Well.... some would say that we are in a moment of a "Revolutionary Period"
Well.... some would say that the current administration and even the previous administrations have been leading to a tyranical take over of America

Now, consider this....
"The number of violent crimes in the United States fell 5.5 percent last year to the lowest rate in nearly four decades, according to FBI reports, perplexing experts who expected crime to rise during a period of economic hardship. Violent and property crime also have experienced long-term, sustained declines across the country, with violent crimes dropping steadily in the 1990s after a spike the decade before."

Read more:
www.charlotteobserver.com...

So, this would imply that the reasons for the increased support for the ownership of handguns doesn't have anything to do with needing them for self defence against eachother....

Now, consider this....
A tyrant (Greek τύραννος, tyrannos) was originally one who illegally seized and controled a governmental power in a polis. Tyrants were a group of individuals who took over many Greek poleis during the uprising of the middle classes in the sixth and seventh centuries BC, ousting the aristocratic governments.

Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, "one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics—against his own people as well as others".[1]

wiki-Tyrant(s)

Election frauds, and unmoral practices of campaigning and playing on the ignorance of people can be seen as illegal... But i wouldnt go as far to say that it has been practiced

Has the government practiced extreme tactics? blackwater, tsa, homeland security, anwar awlaki(sp?)...
Have they practiced them on other other people outside this country?

I guess what my point is....

Is that it is obvious that the culmination of the actions of the government will have a backlash

Do I think guns are the solution? OF COURSE NOT

This is not a war of brute force, this is a war of psychological tactics...
The time will come that this will be realised, and the same tools used to gain support by the current and previous administrations, will become the same tools used to combat them...
Hence....ats, infowars, and all the other supposed 'truth' telling media networks...

I hope people wake up, and figure it out.... That, yeah, guns and brute force can be effective... But, are they really conducive to resulting in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

Give up the ideology that Guns will save you, or that it's even feasible....because it isn't....

Learn to forgive, and find solutions like gentleman... We are evolving people, would you like to be a part of it?
Well.... you wont bet around to see it through if you choose to bare arms and decide to make actions of extremist fashions.
Remember, You live by the sword, you die by the sword...
Live through your words, for it is the voice of reason that brings forth justice on treason, for we are the fruits of the season, and the fruits of our labor shall be our saviour...
You want to change things, educate people, enlighten them... dont frighten them, so that they think the only means of bringing forth change is through force, because i will tell you this... there's no weapon that will prosper, for it's the words of wisdom that will last longer.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 03:09 PM by MikeNice81
reply to post by neo96



I am going to go against the grain here. I don't think it has anything to do with people suddenly becoming interested in the 2nd ammendment or the constitution. I think it is in large part fear.

The fear based media that has us worried about pandemics and "political extremist" has encouraged a secondary response. People have decided the world is too dangerous to live without some form of defense. People are overly afraid of their life being taken on any given day and they turn to a gun for comfort. A lot of other people think, "hmm I might get one if I ever feel I need it." It is kind of like the lower class and middle class supporting policy that protects the rich, just in case.

Now, I am not anti-gun. I think I have proven that on here many times. That is just my opinion on why Americans are becoming more accepting of guns.


reply posted on 27-10-2011 @ 02:11 AM by bekod
reply to post by Tripnman

he, as you stated "He came from across the street" good thing he did!! I was referring to the ones within the 50 foot area, I am sure there were at least 4 to 6 that could /should have reacted. I get "it all happened to fast" a lot, yes something like does, and if your "gona pack heat" learn the steps to protect, you and yours this should include your community, not just your self and prop, personal family... just saying
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