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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth
I've always been against corruption in government.
Just not against capitalism.
Originally posted by tomten
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, I've always said that socialism is a great idea that will never work. Why? HUMAN NATURE. Humans by their very nature tend to be selfish. Socialism is a form of extreme sharing. It basically views all property as communal.
No... Socialism is not all that.
What you describes, is Communism.
Originally posted by nathanscottecho
If you REALLY have a problem with what's going on with OWS then WHY NOT JOIN IT!
We call ourselves the 99% for a reason... It's because WE CONSIDER YOU A PART OF IT... whether you like it or not.
Now if you really want the privilege no the RIGHT to complain about the OWS movement then get YOUR lazy a$$es out there and see what it is for yourself.
See you guys on the streets...hopefully
Originally posted by Trueminatti
reply to post by Section31
Oh i read but chose to ignore it because I come from a different reality.
Originally posted by Trueminatti
reply to post by Section31
I live in the poorest congressional district in the country.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by Trueminatti
reply to post by Section31
Oh i read but chose to ignore it because I come from a different reality.
...and, that is where I stop caring. Since you didn't want to read my whole post, we are unable to debate in an intellectual manner. Too bad. Something fruitful could have come from the exchange of ideas.
Originally posted by Trueminatti
reply to post by Section31
I live in the poorest congressional district in the country.
Don't blame others for your or your parent's failures. You or your parents have the option to move.
Its called a choice and the consequences of such a choice.
edit on 10/27/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by guitarplayer
In my opinion they should be OWH. Occupying the White House who bailed these guys out wrote the laws that enabled them to do it like the Glass/Stiegel act that was repealed. Occupy the Federal Reserve who is in bed with the banks and is owned by the banks. But they won't do that just like they do not protest against the WH for the ongoing war for killing American civilians in foreign countries all because BO is in office. If all this was happening under a republican president there were be blood in the streets over it. The doves have become quite the hawks under BO. Like queen Hill said we came we saw we killed.
Originally posted by pgaplayer30
personally I think people just like to protest no matter what the issue is. I am part of the "poor" population, I work a ton of hours a week, pay my taxes, and don't have a ton of money left over. I do not believe anyone even the government owes me anything. Sure there are alot of corrupt people and corporations out there but alot of these people worked hard to get their money and to think that they owe to people who haven't made as much is ridiculous. I work 50 hours a week and also trying to play a pro sport so all my other time is spent practicing, I'm working hard to get to where I can get paid to do what I love but I dont expect to get to the top without alot of hard work and sweat. I was hearing also that the protestors are paying homeless $100 a day to be in the group just to look like more protestors, as well as the people doing the cooking and providing food for everyone in the group are starting an internal protest. I saw that a breast cancer shirt to raise money with the slogan "Feel for lumps, Save your bumps" is also getting protested as well as Halloween costumes by a college is also getting protested. People just flat out want to protest. Alot of times I want to drop alot of people off in third world country where they can't go down to the nearest wal-mart for groceries or stop off at McDonalds for a hamburger and see how long they would last and get some appreciation for what we do have here. It is not perfect by any means but so so many people just take for granted the things we can do here.
Originally posted by Trueminatti
I'm convinced the people who are against the movement are the same type that would take a job as a cop in riot gear in all these brutality videos. I always wonder what kind of mentality it takes to be a cop and this website gives great insight on that kind of person. The tin foil hat side of me says they are under intense brainwash or work for the PTB.
And I am still baffled that people think becoming a part of the 1% is always a result of hard work and the 99% is a result of laziness. This has to be brainwash. These billionaires wouldn't last a day as a Mexican who waits in front of Home Depot willing to break his back every day.edit on 27-10-2011 by Trueminatti because: adding on...
Originally posted by Propulsion
They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.
“We’re not going to let some members of this community destroy the whole movement,” a volunteer said.
The Occupy Wall Street volunteer kitchen staff launched a “counter” revolution yesterday -- because they’re angry about working 18-hour days to provide food for “professional homeless” people and ex-cons masquerading as protesters.
Originally posted by apacheman
It seems to me that most of the folks bashing OWS are making the argument that life is good for them, and it is strictly because they work harder than others, are morally superior to others, make wiser choices than others, and are just plain better than others, being rugged individualists who did absolutely everything on their own, owing nothing to the efforts of fellow citizens.
To hear them tell it, you could plunk them anywhere in the world flat broke and they'd be upwardly mobile in mere days or weeks.
They seem to believe they have an inherent immunity to bad luck or catastrophic illness striking their family.
Those they look down upon so harshly are lazy, filthy, druggie commie/socialist freeloaders who lack ambition, morals, and a work ethic, solely responsible for their plight.
And they have the nerve to call OWS supporters me-centered.
I'd laugh if it weren't so...words fail me.
I do agree that they are right in one aspect: OWS isn't addressing the root cause of the mess we are in.
The root cause is the ridiculous notion that there is a right to unlimited individual wealth. So long as we allow the pursuit of wealth without limits, there will be poor, there will be famines, there will be corruption, and there will be war.
Here is part of my solution to the problem:
To OWS: what you/we should be demanding