Firelighting made easier - Petroleum Jelly, page
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reply posted on 25-10-2011 @ 12:11 PM by citizen6511
reply to post by WatchRider



birch bark will burn even in Winter, break the ice off, and light.

great for getting your fire going.

thanks for the hint about vaseline, good to know.



reply posted on 25-10-2011 @ 07:50 PM by dainoyfb
Its my estimation that people who recommend the use of petroleum Jelly for fire starting probably haven't spent long periods of time in the wilderness.  There are many reasons why petroleum jelly is not compatible with wilderness survival applications.

First petroleum jelly is extremely pervasive.  As soon as you handle it, you'll have a mess on your hands that is both flammable and difficult to remove without grease cutting detergents. Keeping clean in the wilderness is difficult enough.

Second, petroleum jelly will not ignite with a spark produced by stone and knife, flint, or fire steel. It will not ignite from an ember produced by char cloth or a fire drill.  So if you are without a dry match or lighter or when your lighter fluid runs out the petroleum jelly won't be of any use.

Third, If you are heading out into the wilderness, I would presume that it is because you have an appreciation for it.  Why would you want to drag along things like manufactured chemicals when the purpose is to spend time away from such things, and why would you want to introduce those nasty chemicals to a natural environment?

My advice is to carry char cloth instead. It will instantly produce an ember from the coldest of sparks or transfer an ember from wood, tinder conk, or any other source.  It is easy to make, free, and won't pollute the wilderness.  It does not require storage in a particular container, and for it's weight it will start many times more fires than a batch of petroleum jelly and cotton balls.

If you are not interested in learning how to start a fire from an ember or how to choose natural kindling materials from your surroundings and you feel you must carry a fuel that ignites from a flame then my advise is to carry small strips (0.5in x 1in) of old bicycle tire.  It contains large amounts of hydrocarbon fuel, lights instantly, even when wet, burns long and slow, requires no special container, and is free for the asking at any bicycle repair shop.  Best of all it isn't messy.

I think knowing how to start a fire in a survival situation when you have next to nothing is such an important skill that it should be taught in school along side of how to change a tire in the middle of nowhere. If you learn what works for kindling in your area and how to use it, you won't need to lug petroleum jelly and cotton balls along with you and you will be confidant that you can start a fire in any survival situation without. It is a valuable and rewarding skill that you will be able to pass onto others.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 04:47 AM by mantarey
reply to post by WatchRider



have a ziplock bag in an altoids tin full of these and they are great! Nice video.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 09:51 AM by jibeho
reply to post by dainoyfb



It's the cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly that we are talking about here. The prepared cotton balls readily take a spark and ignite. Yes, vaseline on its own will not ignite. It needs to be attached to a medium. The vaseline just slows the burn time of the cotton and increased the temp. of the tinder.


on the char cloth. I've never made my own and would like to give a go someday.


reply posted on 26-10-2011 @ 03:14 PM by WatchRider
reply to post by jibeho



Thanks, some people just read the title, don't bother to read either content or the video, which would of saved him the trouble

Nice to hear of the char cloth too though.
Also why would a bit of vaseline affect hygience?


reply posted on 29-10-2011 @ 01:49 PM by g146541
reply to post by debsban



Just look on youtube for making charcloth.
It is pretty much as simple as putting linen or cotton cloth into a shoe polish can and poking 1 hole in the top of the can.
Then you toss it into a fire until it stops spewing smoke out of the hole.
It is basically charcoal made of cloth.
As for the OP, if you could not strike a ball of cotton, have you ever considered just unrolling it abit?
Hope it helps
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