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What's under Georges Trench Coat?

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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 02:51 AM
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So here is this picture of the statue of George Washington standing in front of Federal Hall on Wall st.



A closeup of the inscription under the statue



Wait what is that hiding under Georges Trench Coat?

Is it a revolver?

Is it a rocket bomb?

No it appears to be a fasces.



WTF?

The fasces is the symbol of a totalitarian government and dates back to the ancient Greeks and Romans.



Most Fascist movements adopted symbols of Ancient Roman or Greek origin.

en.wikipedia.org...



Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible. Totalitarian regimes stay in political power through an all-encompassing propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by personality cultism, economic control, discourse regulation freedom of speech, mass surveillance, tactics.

en.wikipedia.org...


That kinda sounds 1984ish to me.

In 1984 a totalitarian party rules over Oceania (Also refered to as english socialism or INGSOC [Also known as the Federal Reserve?] - You may wish to refer to totalitarianism as the royal family

Ref: "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism by Goldstein - (How You Are Controlled)" www.abovetopsecret.com...

So now ask yourself why would there be a statue of George Washington standing on Wall Street hiding a fasces under his trench coat?

Got a concealed weapons permit for that thing George?



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Now we also find a picture of a statue of George Washington which is similar to the Baphomet



However that statue is found in Washington DC



We also find the symbol of the fasces [Bundle of arrows] on the presidential flag



And at the Dever airport we find a mural of swords held together by flags (Nationalities)


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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:01 AM
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the real question is what is he hiding under that camel toe??

interesting tho, it certianly is weird to have something hidden like that on a statue..im gunna do some research



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:10 AM
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Man maybe I am up WAY too late but did you just say what I think you said....? LOL I am laughing my butt off!!!! I am very intrigued by that statue also but I wonder if it is a bundle of arrows or something else? My obvious place to start the search would be the artist and who commisioned the statue.

Is there a name of this statue or a name plate on it?
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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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ok now i dont want to cause offence with this comment but im making a few connections..
the hidden item looks like a bundle of sticks - also known as a faggot:


faggot1 esp US, fagot [ˈfægət] n 1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel 2. (Engineering / Metallurgy) a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron 3. (Cookery) a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried 4. a bundle of anything

now i have no problem with homosexuals, in fact i support them 100%
but in my opinion george looks a little homosexual in this statue.
not to mention he has an obvious camel toe...

whats the link between geogre and homosexuals? the plot thickens, the research continues



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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I just did a little research and it was created in 1883 by a guy named John Quincy Adams Ward. So that leads credence to the idea that it could be a secret symbol that sets the tone after the "war of northern aggression" lol Civil War.... BRB with more artist info and who commissioned the statue
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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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OK I updated my original post based upon the first few comments

We know that there are numerous examples of the fasces symbol to be found throughout the US government.



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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The statue was commissioned in 1881 and finished in 1883. It was supposed to represent George Washington's inauguration, which is why it was placed at the same building where he really was inaugurated as our first President.

The item under his cloak is supposed to be the inaugural pedestal. If you look at it from another angle, you can see that is what it is.




posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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I looked and looked and looked for another angle and couldn't see another angle. Thankyou!!!! I was going nuts trying to find one. It seems that John Quincy Adams Ward also done the NYSE building too!


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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by allenidaho

The statue was commissioned in 1881 and finished in 1883. It was supposed to represent George Washington's inauguration, which is why it was placed at the same building where he really was inaugurated as our first President.

The item under his cloak is supposed to be the inaugural pedestal. If you look at it from another angle, you can see that is what it is.



So why isn't he standing on the fasces pedestal?

The only difference between a column and a fasces is the fact that a fasces is held together by something else

And at the Dever airport we find a mural of swords held together by flags (Nationalities)


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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:05 AM
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They are quite common

theres 2 on the Lincoln Memorial


A US dime




The walkway of the pedestrian plaza







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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixOD
They are quite common



Whats quite common... evil empires?



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
They are quite common



Whats quite common... evil empires?


Well they seem to be quite common in the US and Germany for some reason O_o



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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It's not exactly a symbol of totalitarianism. More a symbol of absolute power. He who hods the bundle of sticks, lights the fires....
.... welcome to the fourth reich!
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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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Close, but no. They symbolism of the fasces, initiated first by the Roman Republic, is meant to represent power through unity. Strength through indivisibility. The bundle of sticks, traditionally believed to be birch, wrapped tightly into a cylinder represents the unity of the people. The axe attached to it represents the strength and power if that unity.

It is a symbol long used since the days if the Roman Republic and is in no way a strict symbol of totalitarianism, tyranny or anything 'evil'. And while yes, the word 'Fascism' is derived from it, and while yes, it was used heavily in the 20th century in Fascist symbolism, it is not a Fascist symbol. Fascism itself is an ideology borne of the 20th century while the fasces has been used as symbolism for hundreds upon hundreds of years by every conceivable type of government.

That our own should be rife with it is not beyond the ordinary, it is not a sign of tyranny and should in no way be surprising. But, hey, where is the conspiracy in that?



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Explanation: Symbols meanings can get corrupted and one only has to look at where the swastika originally came from and what it ment back then and what it means today around the world [generally speaking and yes I am aware that it was reversed and how ironic is that
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Personal Disclosure: Has the symbology of the 'fasces' been degraded and literally hijacked?



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Neither really.
The swastika was hijacked partially because it was not a widely used or known symbol, particularly in the western world.

The fasces, however, was and is a widely used and known symbol, and even when it was used in the first half of the 20th century by Italy and Germany, it was for that same known meaning; 'Power through Unity'. Of course, though the meaning of the symbol did not change, quickly over time those two governments did.

Neither one came into being by saying ”I want to rule you with an Iron Fist!” They first needed their people's support, and naturally used familiar symbols representing 'The People' to get it'
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posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Fasces in the United States
According to Wikipedia


In the Oval Office, above the door leading to the exterior walkway, and above the corresponding door on the opposite wall, which leads to the President's private office. (Note: the fasces depicted have no axes, possibly because in the Roman Republic, the blade was always removed from the bundle whenever the fasces were carried inside the city, in order to symbolize the rights of citizens against arbitrary state power (see above).

The grand seal of Harvard University inside Memorial Church is flanked by two inward-pointing fasces. The seal is located directly below the 368-foot steeple and the Great Seal of the United States inside the Memorial Room. The walls of the room list the names of Harvard students, faculty, and alumni that gave their lives in service of the United States during World War I along with an empty tomb depicting Alma Mater holding a slain Harvard student.

The National Guard uses the fasces on the seal of the National Guard Bureau, and it appears in the insignia of Regular Army officers assigned to National Guard liaison and in the insignia and unit symbols of National Guard units themselves. For instance, the regimental crest of the U.S. 71st Infantry Regiment of the New York National Guard consisted of a gold fasces set on a blue background.
The reverse of the United States "Mercury" dime (minted from 1916 to 1945) bears the design of a fasces and an olive branch.

Two fasces appear on either side of the flag of the United States in the United States House of Representatives, representing the power of the House and the country.

The Mace of the United States House of Representatives, designed to resemble fasces, consists of thirteen ebony rods bound together in the same fashion as the fasces, topped by a silver eagle on a globe.

The official seal of the United States Senate has as one component a pair of crossed fasces.

Fasces ring the base of the Statue of Freedom atop the United States Capitol building.

A frieze on the facade of the United States Supreme Court building depicts the figure of a Roman centurion holding a fasces, to represent "order".[5]

The main entrance hallways in the Wisconsin State Capitol have lamps which are decorated with stone fasces motifs.

At the Lincoln Memorial, Lincoln's seat of state bears the fasces—without axes—on the fronts of its arms. (Fasces also appear on the pylons flanking the main staircase leading into the memorial.)
The official seal of the United States Tax Court bears the fasces at its center.

Four fasces flank the two bronze plaques on either side of the bust of Lincoln memorializing his Gettysburg Address at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

The fasces appears on the state seal of Colorado, USA, beneath the "All-seeing eye" (or Eye of Providence) and above the mountains and mines.

The hallmark of the Kerr & Co silver company was a fasces.

On the seal of the New York City borough of Brooklyn, a figure carries a fasces; the seal appears on the borough flag. Fasces can also be seen in the stone columns at Grand Army Plaza.

Used as part of the Knights of Columbus emblem (designed in 1883).

Many local police departments use the fasces as part of their badges and other symbols. For instance, the top border of the Los Angeles Police Department badge features a fasces. (1940)

Commercially, a small fasces appeared at the top of one of the insignia of the Hupmobile car.

A fasces appears on the statue of George Washington, made by Jean-Antoine Houdon which is now in the Virginia State Capital

Columns in the form of fasces line the entrance to Buffalo City Hall.

VAW-116 have a fasces on their unit insignia

San Francisco's Coit Tower has two fasces-like insignia (without the axe) carved above its entrance, flanking a Phoenix.

The seal of the United States Courts Administrative Office

In the Washington Monument, there is a statue of George Washington leaning on a fasces

A fasces is a common element in US Army Military Police heraldry, most visibly on the shoulder sleeve insignia of the 18th Military Police Brigade and the 42nd Military Police Brigade.



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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While the head of the axe is not shown and is completely removed on Lincoln's Memorial, I do believe they are Fasces. However maybe the absence of the axe head is symbolic to non-violence?



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by emaildogs
While the head of the axe is not shown and is completely removed on Lincoln's Memorial, I do believe they are Fasces. However maybe the absence of the axe head is symbolic to non-violence?
Read the first paragraph of the post directly above you, it explains the symbolism of the axe head being removed from some versions of the Fasces.



posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Ah hah! Thank you.

I was thinking along these lines .




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