'Anonymous' Hacking Group Takes Down 40 Child Porn Sites, 'Darknet,' Exposes Over 1500 Users

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Enlighten me again...
What is the difference between exposing child pornographers and exposing home addresses where children live to child pedophiles, rapists, and murderers?

Link:Anonymous Hack Exposes Personal Data of San Francisco-Area Commuters

Passengers who ride the San Francisco regional subway system are the latest innocent victims, as hacktivist collective Anonymous stole and released sensitive information belonging to more than 2,000 riders.

On Aug. 14, the loose-knit group of hackers breached MyBart.org, the Website commuters use to get information from the Bay Area Rapid Transit system. The names, street and email addresses and site passwords for about 2,400 people who'd registered with the Website were dumped on various torrent sites. Some database dumps also included phone numbers for many users. The attackers defaced the Website with Guy Fawkes masks.

What will it take for people to wake up?

How many innocent families and lives need to be exposed to child pedophiles, rapists, other hackers, identity thieves, and murderers, so that "Anonymous'" followers will finally realize the dangers behind the group's actions?

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I hadn't realized just how many innocent people Anon has put in danger.

Thank you for your contributions.

Originally posted by projectvxn
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I hadn't realized just how many innocent people Anon has put in danger.

Thank you for your contributions.

If they really gave a damn about innocence and morality, Anonymous would have taken precautions prior to releasing all that data.

Its sick.

Originally posted by projectvxn
For those of you unfamiliar, places like 4chan have been getting bombarded with child pornography and links to it for quite some time. Making life difficult for those of us who simply want to participate in unregulated free speech. It has kept me from participating in any conversation or any investigation of Anonymous as I simply can't deal with that sort of thing.

That makes two of us. Back "in the day" 4chan (specifically /b/) was hilarious. Some of the wins found there continue to make me laugh. But over the past year I've seen /b/ turn from funny to grotesque. And those of us who voice our dismay become "moralfags". I just can't visit a website that has such content. Moot and the mods do their best I guess, but it's not good enough.

Anyways, finally Anonymous takes down the filth of the filth. Child abuse shouldn't be granted anonymity. It's harmful to everything anonymous. I hope the exposed members of these pedo groups rot in jail. (I'd like to see them shot to be honest.)

Two thumbs up for Anon.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by OzTruth

 

Technically you are correct, so why is everyone shocked if someone likes them that young.

Its not about who likes them, because every healthy normal human naturally likes the opposite sex from puberty onwards, not magically from 18 years of age. Yet the limit is set at 18 because thats when young people are judged capable of consenting to produce porn.

You wont find morality in nature.

That said, 13-18 is a grey area, and I would not necessarily disagree if the laws were changed to be less restricting in this age range.

Agree, that's where it gets hard to determine for some.

I personally have been attracted to someone below the age of 18 back when I was a 19 year old in my final year of college, she was 17 and I'd known her a few years due to my best friend dating her older sister (me, my friend and the older sister are all the same age).

Soon as I left college though, my tastes in females remained above 18 when I went into the world of work and adulthood because that's just who I am. Meanwhile, a friend I had who was a year younger than myself began dating her teacher when she was 17 and him 23, far as I know they're still happily married as 26 and 32 year olds. Even back then though, because I wanted to be with her and was only 18 myself at the time, I felt it was wrong someone who taught her and was that much older shouldn't be dating someone of that age and used it as my main argument when I tried to split them up but obviously I failed cause they're still together.

I just don't like that parents aren't allowed to take photos of their own children enjoying themselves at a park now because of the accusations of pedophilia nor do I enjoy having to hide away on my sister's prom when her friends came over in case I was asked my opinion on their dresses and subsequently accused of being a pedophile.

The subject has become such a major issue these days thanks to sick individuals who sexually exploit young children that it's hard to do anything these days. It was tough when I volunteered at my old school a few years ago teaching 6-8 year olds about music for that same reason.

What I want to know is:
How can "Anonymous" track down the users and shut these sites down -- and the FBI and other agencies cannot?

Methinks that there is a "lack of will" from the top.

I constantly think about Sibel Edmunds accusation against Dennis Hastert; that he was working for the government of Turkey (amongst other things). PROOF that she was on to something is the fact that after he left office, Hastert became a high-paid consultant for the government of Turkey.

The senior FBI personnel Sibel brought the matter to, were dismissive at first and then hostile. Sibel eventually had some Whistle-blower protection, but her life was ruined.

But the reaction -- the disinterest that SOMEONE in government would be working for a foreign power. There was "intelligence" Sibel found when translating conversations of Turkish agents (she was an Arabic/Turkish translator for about 6 months) hinting at the selling of Nuclear secrets by the Bush administration ... and later information about "A.Q. Khan's" hand in selling nuclear secrets to Iran, Iraq and possibly North Korea seem to bolster this as well.

>> It's not just the Mossad, or a group from Saudi Arabia, or one day Dubai. It isn't the obvious threat of China. It's not even Pakistan or North Korea... it's that those with the power and responsibility to ACT, are only interested in covering up.

The SUCCESS of Anonymous to shut down pedophile sites -- while agencies that are supposed to be concerned with this cannot -- is that along with any old politician being sold out to a foreign power, that international crimes of pedophilia are willfully ignored.

>> Maybe they are just a disorganized bunch of crooks who don't investigate ANYTHING that isn't some petty crime by a pot smoker, or a "non-protected class"; You know, White-Collar Criminals who only steal Millions rather than Billions. They don't investigate anything but petty issues -- because they are ALL ON THE TAKE. The got their jobs handed to them by crooks and compromised perverts BECAUSE they don't follow the big crimes -- kind of how the current Pope got his job.

... I just wanted to make people keep that nagging bit of question in their minds as they celebrate the victory of Anonymous.

>> I expect that the Government will put Anonymous higher up on the top of the "enemies of the state" list like WikiLeaks, because fighting real crimes against those who cannot protect themselves and transparency, are just not allowed for the common man anymore.

Originally posted by traderjack
Kudos to Anon. There only two problems I see with this, first of all, do to Anon's rep, a swift defense attorney would argue that an Anon member with a personal vendetta could place a users info on such a site as a means of revenge. Not saying I agree, not saying I think that's what is happening, I'm just saying these are the arguments that will be (or can be) used if prosecution of these users is sought.

I find child pornography repulsive. However, it is a dichotomy of our times that we are all so repelled by child porn, yet, the media sexualizes little girls right in front of our eyes. From Miley Cyrus to little girl 'thongs' to these asinine child pageants, our society and media are turning little girls into objects of perversion.

So, good for Anon! However, ultimately, we are going to have quit sending the mixed signals to perverts. Where as you or I see the idea of a 9yo wearing a thong as disturbing, a pervert will find it titillating. And when Madison Avenue and the media/Hollywood rubber stamp it, then what can we truly expect?

It's really a strange time we live in, given that a large number of the men in our society find it arousing to have their wives dress up in pigtails, cheerleader costumes, and schoolgirl outfits. Think about it.

Excellent point.

Perhaps our country, and our generation needs to rethink what it means to be a "parent". What it means to foster the next generation. How it is allowed for little girls to dance around on a stage like a grown woman I don't think promotes anything other than pedophilia. Have a little bit of understanding that sexuality is an almost unstoppable urge, you don't parade little girls around as sex objects.

Not everyone is smart enough to do the right thing.

Originally posted by lowki

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Aim64C

 

I pray you never have to deal with the emotional consequences and physical scars of abuse.They last a lifetime. These peddlers of filth deserve to be put in jail.

Oh so you're solution is to increase the amount of physical scars and abuse? Considering that's the only thing that happens in jails...

The crime is AGAINST children,right ? These are men and women that trade pornographic pictures of children,for pleasure,victimizing these children in the process.. I find NO pleasure in putting them in Jail,so maybe we can compromise,and let them stay in your HOUSE? Maybe in your CHILD'S room...........................

Thats crazy right? Well Jail is a lot better place,then in ANYONES house.

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Remember that 'Anonymous' is not a group with any centralized leadership. It is a collective of anyone who claims to be anonymous. There are malevolent members, there are good members.

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I personally agree with most of ur post concerning this thread...Big goverment is nothing without Big corporations backing them up such as the Federal Reserve and the IMF...
You can bet that alot of these people are somehow, some way involved in this sick world that the OP has brought to light once more..With alot of power comes alot of lust...for money and everything else

To Anonymous...well I agree with what they done this time, altho noone can honestly say they agree with everything they have done.. I really do not expect to see any big change in the world of pedophillia over-all..it wil be here long after I'm gone as it was here long before I came...be it on the internet or pictures these sick twisted people share with one another

This is the sad state of sick and twisted lust some people have...

Thankfully I do not share their lust....

To all the people that said KILL THEM ALL...would be nice to know for sure who they were and eradicate them but this is sadly something noone will ever know for sure...so good idea but best to stay that way, an idea

Originally posted by Domo1
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Remember that 'Anonymous' is not a group with any centralized leadership. It is a collective of anyone who claims to be anonymous. There are malevolent members, there are good members.

Ahh like OWS...Totally aimless and without direction?

Anyone can speak for them?

How is anyone supposed to get behind that sort of thing? I think if Anon is going to do any good they have to learn to be consistent.

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Motivation is not without direction.

If a tree falls in the woods and your don't hear it, it still makes a sound.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Remember that 'Anonymous' is not a group with any centralized leadership. It is a collective of anyone who claims to be anonymous. There are malevolent members, there are good members.

Ahh like OWS...Totally aimless and without direction?

Anyone can speak for them?

How is anyone supposed to get behind that sort of thing? I think if Anon is going to do any good they have to learn to be consistent.

Yes, anyone can speak for Anonymous. Who's to say who can and cannot speak when you do not have any leaders? The DDOS attacks usually take a large amount of people to do, and no-one would participate in a foul operation. Only the operations that benefit the people are usually supported. These last attacks on the pedo sites are about rep.

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I have a debate within myself about the "crime" involved here.

What is the BALANCE of the right of privacy, the rights of children, and what constitutes "perversion." My own ground rule is; I don't believe THOUGHT should be a crime, children's rights supersede adults privacy, and that "DAMAGE" has to be proven. It is NOT always obvious how kids are damaged by sex, as "playing doctor" amongst kids is pretty common -- but they are doing it with a peer age group.

>> Let me step back; As a kid, I was at a very "authoritarian school" that was pretty much run as a brothel for those in charge. However, the lower level people were "good folks" who just wanted to help young teens. Whatever the INTENT of the founder -- it also did a lot of good for kids already needing to get set on the right path -- whatever that is.

It's interesting to note that; while we made "jokes" about various "Teacher's pets" -- the day-to-day was still about becoming stronger, self-responsible adults. Don't think that it's obvious for even 18-year-olds to have a firm line of "right from wrong." I personally cringe at jokes about "prison rape" -- we've come to accept this as part of the punishment. But if people are getting raped in prison -- how is the concept of "rehabilitation" even part of the excuse for putting people in prison? What kind of society allows this?

I'm absolutely sure, that while we look back on Slavery as evil, and that THAT IGNORANCE is in the past -- in 50 years time, people will wonder how we accepted clothing that is made in sweat shops, that are every bit as awful conditions as those that slaves endured. How did we accept that people who did not murder, were put in prisons so dehumanizing where they best people are usually the most abused by the worst of people. How do we accept that, in order for the judicial system in Texas and Georgia (for instance) to save a few bucks -- that known innocent people were executed?

>> Some of the nicest people are pedophiles. In fact -- when I was a kid, it seems that almost everyone who was NICE to me, eventually wanted to have a "piece of me." Which mostly sucked, because; I'm not gay in the least, and it also means that NOBODY really wanted to put up with my theories on physics or philosophy -- they just thought I was attractive.

I don't hear a lot of guys admit that. I was NOT successfully molested -- but I suppose, that a lot of people who are, count these adults as their "best friends" growing up. That to admit that they were molested, also puts them in a weak and piteous state in the eyes of others.

So, "molestation" -- or maybe just LIFE, is perhaps endemic to life on earth. Once I get to know someone -- it's rare to ever talk to someone who did NOT get molested at some point in their life. The other people are either not being honest, or are just terminally dull. If we did studies -- would we find that people who had NOBODY interested in them in some sexual way might ALSO be screwed up?

It's hard to tell. I don't think that I've ever truly found someone yet who was "functioning on all cylinders." Those that THINK they are, or think they KNOW their neighbors, are fairly good at denial -- in my experience. I do think that until proven otherwise, there are probably aliens and perfectly healthy people -- but I haven't seen evidence outside of Utah.

>> There is no exact AGE or size, or maturity level, that determines what is attractive. Our human brains were not designed with a "Statute of Limitations." I've been around the usual conversations where someone will decry these "skinny models" that the media pushes on us, and loudly proclaim that they are superior because they like chubby girls. MOST of human history has been fraught with a scarcity of food -- so "being chubby friendly" -- is probably unfair to the majority of women who don't live in a modern society with diet pills. Since I like a great spectrum of "types" that are only defined by; "healthy" -- but I cannot be attracted to hairy legs or "man like" features,... I figure that what we like is more about "imprinting" and we don't have a lot of control in the matter. Yelling at people who like small, skinny girls, doesn't change a thing -- it merely moves it into the closet.

The people who "HATE GAYS" the most, in my experience, are most likely to have questions about their own orientation -- or at least might have been molested as kids. They cannot admit their fear because it is coupled with shame, which only makes them all the louder about "it not being natural" and how they hate it.

Not that I enjoy seeing guys kiss on HBO -- it's just something to be endured. I'm more bothered by seeing anyone helpless get injured in a horror movie.

>> So while I appreciate that "not all illegal sex crimes" are really all that criminal -- if the "exposure" of these people saves some kids -- it's worth it.

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Excellent!

Something our incompetent government is obviously unable to do.
(oh wait, they would actually have to CARE in order to do something)
Anon. wins again.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Remember that 'Anonymous' is not a group with any centralized leadership. It is a collective of anyone who claims to be anonymous. There are malevolent members, there are good members.

Ahh like OWS...Totally aimless and without direction?

Anyone can speak for them?

How is anyone supposed to get behind that sort of thing? I think if Anon is going to do any good they have to learn to be consistent.

>> I think the CORE of Anonymous is fairly easy to identify; they are EXCELLENT hackers.
The "script kiddies" and those who join in the defacing of websites -- they aren't breaking open databases on a foreign server.

Just because a group of people self-organize to try and bring justice and transparency to this world does NOT mean they are aimless and without direction.

Did you know that in groups of Chimps or Cows -- there really isn't an Alpha Male directing what they do? It's been found that even "Cows vote." When most of the animals are pointing a certain direction, the alpha Bull will then, move in that direction and the group will follow. It's kind of like how a Politician will jump in front of any parade and take credit for it.

>> The OWS movement is pretty obviously about Economic Justice and their goals and motivations are pretty clear to me -- probably because I'd join and support them if I had the time or money. People who find this confusing are probably too used to Public Relations on TV News and at some company or organization.

I avoid organized religion, I don't "join" things, I have strongly held IDEAS but no unquestioned faiths. I don't care of a thousand people tell me I'm wrong -- they have to PROVE to me with facts that I'm wrong. I don't need someone to tell me I'm right -- but I do find it comforting when it happens.

I guess I'm my own leader -- and I've been that way most of my life regardless of all the crap someone tried to shove down my throat.

I find WikiLeaks, Green Peace, OWS, Anonymous and a lot of other "enemies of the state" very heroic. Sure, there is a lot of nonsense attributed to Anonymous -- it could even be a CIA covert operation -- but I doubt it.


>> But I don't care if you approve of Anonymous or OWS. There isn't going to be ANY CHANGE to the status quo that will be convenient or go without vilification. If the protestors are successful, there will of COURSE be violence and a city ordinance violated. The biggest crooks always make justice and truth a crime.

I wonder if this is like a war on drugs, one you can never win! Maybe society should take a different approach to this problem.

Instead of the instant call to kill them, give people who have these type of feelings the option to seek help without prejudice. If someone thinks they have these type of feeling towards children and seeks help, they should be applauded for knowing there is something wrong and they are trying to get the help.

The way we are going about this is making them hide the feelings, and without help, it would just fester and they might eventually act out on those feelings!

What to do about actual offenders is another thing, but I think we as a society are pushing these people so far underground, it may actually be making things worse!

What are others opinions on this? It would be nice to have a real debate on how to solve this problem without the emotion.

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We have been hunting many of them for some time. They seem to have a thing for defending the pedophile lifestyle?

They should have expected us!

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This thread is now making progress.

The answer is similar to what we think of as "religion". There has to be a fundamental change in the way people think from self-promotion (greed, lust) to progression. People need to believe in doing the right thing again.

This is why the whole world is failing. Almost every major religion is dumb and pointless, all people need to value honor and advancement. Stupidity is multiplying with humanity all over the planet at an increasing rate, some goal or righteous drive has to be instilled not only in our country, but the world.

The only way we can change our nature is to actively change ourselves.

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Ahh like OWS...Totally aimless and without direction?

Yes chaos can not be controlled

Anyone can speak for them?

Anyone can YES, we are a collective of people with ideas, if we all agree or some agree with an idea and agenda then we act on it.

How is anyone supposed to get behind that sort of thing?

Easy actually, we are not hard to find , we are everywhere

I think if Anon is going to do any good they have to learn to be consistent.

We are neither consistent or even inconsistent, we just do things.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Remember that 'Anonymous' is not a group with any centralized leadership. It is a collective of anyone who claims to be anonymous. There are malevolent members, there are good members.

Exactly!