Originally posted by brilab45
reply to post by Deon
The Islamification of Northern Africa has been well under way for years. There is no turning back. The area is under the empire of Islam. Like many other countries. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
It's strange really. Us westernized folks are at a precipice. We fear them. So, we bomb them. The western world will have nothing to do with the uprising of Islam.
There are peaceful people in all religions. However, Islam seems to have more fundamentalists than any other religion. Of course that is the truth. Yet there many people whom praise Allah that are peaceful loving people.
Originally posted by Deon
I see a second Iran coming. oh nonononono.
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Originally posted by snowspirityeah, it is better to dislike them now than realizing you dislike them later, so that you can bomb less people. That's what I was trying to say.
Originally posted by brilab45
reply to post by Deon
The Islamification of Northern Africa has been well under way for years. There is no turning back. The area is under the empire of Islam. Like many other countries. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
It's strange really. Us westernized folks are at a precipice. We fear them. So, we bomb them. The western world will have nothing to do with the uprising of Islam.
There are peaceful people in all religions. However, Islam seems to have more fundamentalists than any other religion. Of course that is the truth. Yet there many people whom praise Allah that are peaceful loving people.
"We fear them so we bomb them"
We sound like the ones that aren't very peaceful here........
Originally posted by Deon
reply to post by spacekc929
Communism is not a religion, but communist states all use the same way to educate their youth like religions do. You just can't explain many communist behaviors in a way that makes sense, unless you admit that it is kind of a religion, that makes people loses their senses.
I am not American, I have never agreed that Americans are any better than anyone else in this world. You just happened to be born in a better place, in the right time to enjoy all the advantages( and disadvantages maybe) this nation has brought you.
The thing is problems are no longer likely to be solved in more peaceful way today except endless and useless summits, mulch-lateral talks. To make enemies bleed is the most straight forward way being adopted now.
America has already started two wars in this millennium, so if this Islamicized North African states is an issue which eventually will be solved by starting a war, then I think it is better to be now than later to do it.
Originally posted by spacekc929I don't advocate for war. However, if war is inevitable, then it's better to be now than later, so that your enemies are less stronger and organized, less resistances will be faced, and less people die.
Originally posted by Deon
reply to post by spacekc929
Communism is not a religion, but communist states all use the same way to educate their youth like religions do. You just can't explain many communist behaviors in a way that makes sense, unless you admit that it is kind of a religion, that makes people loses their senses.
I don't know, I think it is pretty straightforward. If people aren't selfish, then everyone can have enough and no one will be left in the dark. (It doesn't work, but it's not something that makes people lose their senses).
Also, Communist states =/= communism. Communist states are actually fascist, because a true communist state has never existed... true communism only works in very small scales.
I am not American, I have never agreed that Americans are any better than anyone else in this world. You just happened to be born in a better place, in the right time to enjoy all the advantages( and disadvantages maybe) this nation has brought you.
I am sorry for assuming you were American. I was making the point though that you think that Muslims "tend to mix up politics with their religious beliefs" which is clearly not something endemic to being Muslim. It is something endemic to being human, and I take issue with the fact that Muslims are singled out as somehow more irrational and caught up in their religion than the rest of the world.
The thing is problems are no longer likely to be solved in more peaceful way today except endless and useless summits, mulch-lateral talks. To make enemies bleed is the most straight forward way being adopted now.
America has already started two wars in this millennium, so if this Islamicized North African states is an issue which eventually will be solved by starting a war, then I think it is better to be now than later to do it.
Okay, woah there dude. Are you seriously advocating "making enemies bleed?" You still don't have a solid foundation for being afraid of an Islamicized North Africa, and now you are already advocating killing them by starting a war? And sooner rather than later? This is Islamophobia at its worst. No one deserves death because of their religion, or because of the religion of their country. I simply do not know how to have an intelligent conversation with you when you are already so set in your anti-Islamic beliefs that it will cloud your judgment and cause you to advocate treating them as something less than human that should just be eliminated.edit on 10/25/2011 by spacekc929 because: fixingedit on 10/25/2011 by spacekc929 because: (no reason given)
I don't advocate for war. However, if war is inevitable, then it's better to be now than later, so that your enemies are less stronger and organized, less resistances will be faced, and less people die.
If North African states become countries like Iran, which are ruled by religious figures and are extremely hostile to Americans, will there be war?
