ALICE in the sky with aluminum nanos

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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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While we slept, the sky became filled with aluminum nanos. I turned to blame the person next to me and found myself looking in the mirror. What is ALICE? It's a cake, a clay like solid, made of aluminum nano particles and ice that has been used for rocket fuel and has applications for jet fuel, even diesel fuel, fuel for trains and also heavy equipment. Nanotechnology is on and entering a new era of, among other nanos, aluminum nanos. Or maybe we're already in the new era...just didn't know because a nano is very very small.

www.spacenews.com...


In August, the Air Force, NASA and scientists from Purdue and Pennsylvania State, or Penn State, universities launched a 3-meter rocket 400 meters into the air during an initial test flight of the propellant ALICE — so named for its ingredients, aluminum and ice.



But previous attempts to make aluminum and water fuels foundered on the size of the aluminum particles that were used, Birkan said.


Cakes made of ALICE didn't happen without some false starts. Micron size aluminum particles were found to be too large for efficient combustion but nanos are just the ticket.

www.nanotech-now.com...


Abstract:
Nanotech educational video features Air Force scientists' new fuel from aluminum nanoparticles


It's called 'Just Add Water' and was posted on March 9, 2010.

What is a nano particle? It's a particle that is very tiny even compared to a micro particle which, in itself, is already very tiny.

trukid.wordpress.com...


A micrometer is one millionth of a meter. A nanometer is one billionth of a meter. (One thousand times smaller! It’s difficult to fathom, but in comparison, a human hair’s diameter is 800,000 nanometers). While the larger sized micronized particles appear to be both safe and effective, many questions still linger about the safety of nanoparticles. Preliminary studies seem reassuring, but only a few have been done and none have been done under real life conditions or even on the actual commercial formulations being used (because manufacturers won’t reveal their recipes).


How is it funded? Congress has taken care of everything.

nanotech.lawbc.com...

Where is it being made? A number of companies are producing ALICE like substances. Here are just a few:

www.americanelements.com...
www.nabond.com...
www.appliednanotech.net...


Adding Al nanoparticles to solid (rocket fuel) propellant improves combustion speed and stability and substantially increases combustion heat.


This is a win-win situation all around because airlines have been struggling with weak demand and this would be another cost saving measure.

www.aa.com...


The downward trend in jet fuel consumption is due to AMR’s fuel conservation and efficiency efforts as well as an overall decrease in capacity as AMR exercised capacity discipline during the past few years of weak demand within the airline industry.


Here's the patent application just to provide a full picture:

www.faqs.org...

How does this all relate to chemtrails? Nano particles have very special properties, often much different and sometimes even reversed from the properties of the original substance or even the micro substance. One property is in the surface area that they contain which is vast relative to their tinyness. Another is in their relationship to light because of this surface area and because of the way they act.

www.sciencedaily.com...




posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Awesome stuff.


This time in English!



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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reply to post by luxordelphi
 


How in the heck does solid rocket fuel relate to:


This is a win-win situation all around because airlines have been struggling with weak demand and this would be another cost saving measure.



Solid rocket fuel has nothing at all to do with airlines in any way.

Also, reading through the links provided, this claim is not mentioned, nor does it make sense, when one realizes what "ALICE" actually is:


It's a cake, a clay like solid..... of aluminum nano particles and ice......


So, this next part from the OP is not supported, and again, makes little sense (if one understands how detrimental aluminum nanoparticles in Jet fuel or diesel fuel would be, when introduced into the combustion process):


..... and has applications for jet fuel, even diesel fuel, fuel for trains and also heavy equipment.



As to what I presume is the intent here.....just how much solid rocket fuel do you allege is actually being released into the atmosphere?

Calculating the well-publicized rocket launches, and comparing each as to type of fuel used....then, add it up.

The information can usually be found online, with some research.






edit on Mon 24 October 2011 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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We're going to refit the engines of tens of thousands of aircraft and start using a new expensive solid rocket fuel? Wouldn't aviation fuel be very, very, very, very much cheaper and easier?


Still, if flight tickets increase 2000% to cover the cost it might cut the number of people flying, and thus the number of aircraft in operation ...... and thereby reduce the number of 'chemtrails'
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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the cake is a lie xD

regarding chemtrails, aluminium is proably the first anomalous material found in samples followed closely by barium, according to several independant experiments. nano particles have different properties that regular particles in most cases, aluminium being that it can combust, makes me think thermite but I do not specialize in either chemistry nor explosives, so I can't be sure.

if I had to guess however, the aluminium breaks the water which makes hho which is a fuel itself, and removes the 'needs high voltage to split the water' part of the equation.

aluminium has been used as chaff since ww2 and can reflect radio waves too, or sunlight even. I have no sympathy for geoengineers however, and thats as far as i'm going to go explaining things.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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reply to post by whatsinaname
 


Aluminium is one of the most common elements found on the surface of the planet.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Physical
Aluminium is a soft, durable, lightweight, ductile and malleable metal with appearance ranging from silvery to dull gray, depending on the surface roughness. Aluminium is nonmagnetic and does not easily ignite. A fresh film of aluminium film serves as a good reflector (approximately 92%) of visible light and an excellent reflector (as much as 98%) of medium and far infrared radiation.


en.wikipedia.org...

a definate chemtrail



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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reply to post by Essan
 


exactly, we're not talking about the surface we're talking about whats coming from the sky.

ed: cake is actually a decent term for rocket propelant, without going into detail it looks like ommlete if you homebrew some. seen on youtube before I realised making homebrew rockets isn't legal =( have to buy standardized motors and its like, why bother.
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by DaRAGE


....a definate chemtrail


Incorrect.

From one link in OP:

www.appliednanotech.net...


Name: Aluminum nanoparticles
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Appearance: Black powder


BLACK powder. Al nanoparticles. Black.

Contrails? White. WHITE.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by whatsinaname
reply to post by Essan
 


exactly, we're not talking about the surface we're talking about whats coming from the sky.


Tell me, after this aluminum is released into the sky, where does it accumulate?



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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don't get sarky, since im being actively hacked right now its not the time. if you want to argue semantics, soil is mostly iron alumina silicate. we're talking purposely putting alumunium nano particles in the sky.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by whatsinaname
reply to post by GringoViejo
 


don't get sarky, since im being actively hacked right now its not the time. if you want to argue semantics, soil is mostly iron alumina silicate. we're talking purposely putting alumunium nano particles in the sky.


You're probably not being hacked. You don't have information worth taking. Lay off the porn, it's probably a virus.

Anyways, again, where does this aluminum accumulate after being released into the air? Does it just float forever and ever? Or does it fall, or float down to anything? If so, what is that thing?

After you Identify the thing, tell me, what do you think the best way to verify these claims are?

EDIT: By the way, why would you assume that I care what you have time for or not? Obviously you're full of **** if you had time to respond in the first place.
edit on 24-10-2011 by GringoViejo because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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reply to post by Essan
 


Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds!! Sounds like John Lennon was a prophet afterall. I don't care how abundant it is, Do you want to eat even more of it?



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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reply to post by luxordelphi
 


Great thread
!

I just read the OP and will spend some time reading all the links once I get the chance.

It's a shame to see great threads like this not get the attention they deserve.

Hopefully I will have some comments later on once I intake all the information from those links.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
Awesome stuff.


This time in English!


Made a real true blue (like the sky will be one day again) effort to be understood - thanks for noticing!!



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Nanoparticle, irregular/ air atomized, spherical/ gas atomized, granule, flake, shot, needle and crystal
reply to post by ProudBird
 


Don't blink because:

www.sciencedaily.com...


ScienceDaily (July 27, 2009) — Oxford scientists have created a transparent form of aluminium by bombarding the metal with the world’s most powerful soft X-ray laser.


And don't worry because:

www.reade.com... tomized-aluminum-powder-gas-atomized-aluminum-powder-aluminum-flake-al-aluminum-granules-aluminum-shot-aluminum-chopped-wire-aluminum-needles-aluminum -sheet-aluminum-foil-

if you don't like cake, you can have it powdered, atomized, gassed, flaked, granuled. Just remember to add water.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
Originally posted by DaRAGE


....a definate chemtrail


Incorrect.

From one link in OP:

www.appliednanotech.net...


Name: Aluminum nanoparticles
.......
Appearance: Black powder


BLACK powder. Al nanoparticles Black.

Contrails? White. WHITE.



BLACK
Like this?



BTW the buzz around what that 'line' might actually be, revolves around some type of PARTICLE beam.. just sayin'



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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reply to post by HIWATT
 



BLACK
Like this?



That is a contrail.....one portion in shadow. You cannot see the clouds casting the shadow, they are cropped out of the photo.


Contrail shadows

Atmospheric optics

Contrails, Dark Lines, Black Beams, & “Chemtrails”


Using photos intentionally to deceive is a favorite trick of "chem"trail promoters.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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reply to post by HIWATT
 


It's an edge shadow.

contrailscience.com...

Here's some in my kitchen:




posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
That is a contrail.....one portion in shadow. You cannot see the clouds casting the shadow, they are cropped out of the photo.


No, this is an edge shadow, not self shadowing. The contrail stops where it seems to, the shadow slab extend way in front of the plane.






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