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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Well, their interim leader has already declared they will be a nation who lives by Islamic law.....That statement speaks volumes to me.... It is becoming clear who the real culprits behind the world conspiracy REALLY are...Two of the world's major religions, or at the very least, the leaders of those religions.




posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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Why would Russia buy oil from libya when russia is the largest oil producer in the world?

Fail

Hence if other points are correct its probably by luck.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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I'm sick and disgusted by what's happened in Libya, it's a major international war crime and I truly hope that Gaddafi's powerful allies and his widow manage to bring some of the perpetrators to justice. Just how stupid do 'they' think we are - Clinton 'getting the news' on her Blackberry for the world's press just says it all, they think we're as moronic as they are. This isn't the end, it's the start of a whole new level of bloody conflict, it's bad and it stinks from beginning to end - who else knows the truth about the monsters of the world and all its major global atrocities for the past generation? Osama, Saddam and Gaddafi all did, who's next I wonder??

Just heard that TB (Tony Blair, AKA agent of the devil) just agreed a multi-million pound paycheck to 'advise' Kazakhstan's leader - just like he recently did with Gadaffi on such friendly and trusting terms. That guy is a spy plain a simple - and a double dealing one at that, I still hang my head in shame that any of my fellow countrymen were suckered by that demon and voted him into power.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Do you all think that this info would come to light if Gaddafi wasn't hunted down and murdered?
I smell a Martyr. Beware of martyrs folks. It completely turns the tables over and over again.
It seems Edgar Cayce was right once again.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Only NATO could create a martyr out of a tyrant, when will these people stop, when WWIII is being lost by them??



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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In fact libya is only seventeenth as an oil exporter, russia exports 3x what libya can produce and china have a tactical ally in kazakstan and if america would target anyone with oil it would be venezuala... Again I feel this guy is talking out of of his ass...

But as usual on this site... Blog=accusations=conspiracy theory=truth



That's why we love it I guess.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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The truth about gadafi was that he was an insecure control freak that wouldn't give up power to anyone for what 40 years and he's "take care" of anyone that opposed him so everyone feared standing up to him.

Go ahead support him, but if you do I hope you support the illuminati and the NWO or your a hypocrite.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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That's all well and good and possibly true. But, didn't this revolution start from the citizens of Libya? Would they all have to be in on it with NATO? Whoever is plastering the web with dis info about how Gaddaffi (however the hell you want to spell it) still was a brutal dictator that repressed his citizens through intimidation and torture. So what if everyone wanted to be rid of him least of all the people of Libya who sacrificed their lives to break free from oppression. They asked for NATO's help because the military was well equipped and the revolutionaries were not. I'm happy and clicking my heels 3 times that the petty tyrant met his end at the hands of those very citizens he brutally oppressed. So move on to something that is more important to the world. You yak about TPTB as if you have no power. Shame on you. The power is within you for change. You are not helpless sheep unless you believe you are helpless sheep. Stop projecting all your insecurities outward and start to reflect inward and stop the internal dialogue THAT KEEPS YOU CHAINED TO THESE ILLUSIONS.
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by charlottecowell
I'm sick and disgusted by what's happened in Libya, it's a major international war crime and I truly hope that Gaddafi's powerful allies and his widow manage to bring some of the perpetrators to justice. Just how stupid do 'they' think we are - Clinton 'getting the news' on her Blackberry for the world's press just says it all, they think we're as moronic as they are. This isn't the end, it's the start of a whole new level of bloody conflict, it's bad and it stinks from beginning to end - who else knows the truth about the monsters of the world and all its major global atrocities for the past generation? Osama, Saddam and Gaddafi all did, who's next I wonder??

Just heard that TB (Tony Blair, AKA agent of the devil) just agreed a multi-million pound paycheck to 'advise' Kazakhstan's leader - just like he recently did with Gadaffi on such friendly and trusting terms. That guy is a spy plain a simple - and a double dealing one at that, I still hang my head in shame that any of my fellow countrymen were suckered by that demon and voted him into power.


Yeah, trouble is, remember who was in power at the time?? He seemed like a dream come true for the country. I was in my early twenties at the time, and had not known anything but a Tory (mostly Thatcher) government. However, maybe I have always had the seed of the conspiracy theorist in me, but as a socialist and living in a hugely left wing part of the country, still gave my vote to the liberals because there was something about Tony boy and his creepy wife that I just didnt trust. Now I dont trust liberals either, lol, dont trust any of them.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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To all those who disbelieve everything reported by western media:

Today it is reported that there has been, a war crime, committed by the rebels against Gaddafi supporters (which needs investigating and people brought to trial if need be). Now why on earth would the Nato led, paid for, in the pockets of TPTB allow such news to filter out of Libya by the infamous always lies BBC?

Answer : because the BBC does actually report the truth, or attempts to. It screws up occasionally, as all organisations do, due to human error and human frailties (that big story first ).

Since the BBC does report the truth and that truth conflicts with warped belief systems the truth has to be ignored and wrapped in a yet another conspiracy about how western media operates. That way cognitive dissonance doesn't cause brain melt.

There is nothing wrong with being wrong, There is everything wrong with not admitting to it when you should.



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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If some one could help me on my thoughts i would welcome them. I fear for my kids and there kids if such a west hating country's became more powerful than ours. I know that these country's hate the west because of TPTB have meddled in MSM ,orchestrated take overs for profit and so on. The TPTB are the bad guys but its a case of irreparable damage concerning the hatred for the west from country's they have damaged. So i fear that if we dont play ball and go along with the evil powers that be on the course they have set in motion. That my kids could end up starving and have to live in a third world country. I know there is family's suffering through what dread i fear right now in the middle east and north Africa. My family come first in my opinion sorry that's human nature. I hate and loath what our government's have done and the Rothschild and all big conglomerates. If this means a better life for my kids or even to stay the at the level of living we are at, than i cant help but go with it. This seems to be all out of my control so please i would like the opinion of people with family's not young kids to comment back with ways that can help me think there is another way. thanks all
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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I really liked what this guy had to say because he IS African and much closer to the cause then we are. The News just ain't what it used to be.......perhaps it never was. We really need to listen to these outside sources to get a more clearer picture of what's really going on in other countries, and where better to start then with their own people?

Good Find OP!




Originally posted by greenovni
Here's the video guys






posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by shell69
...Reading another thread I came across a post which included a link to the Ghadaffi speech before the UN in 2009, I gathered from the post that this is hard to come by anymore so the transcript is all that was posted. I agree this should be read in its ENTIRETY, and it's not an easy read... but if you are truly gathering information you cannot exclude this speech..
metaexistence.org...

Very interesting link if accurate. Good catch. I've been quiet on this subject the last few days as I've sought to verify or debunk the info that's been breaking on ATS about who Gaddafi might have really been as opposed to the MSM version.

Gaddafi has been scoring some brownie points along the way. And some of the following excerpts from his alleged U.N. speech would seem to make him a man after many an ATSer's heart.

You have seen what happened in Iraq. That took place even though Iraq is a wide open desert. Then what do you think of Afghanistan with these mighty mountains. No one could defeat it till the hereafter. They are just hitting the rock. They will scratch it but they will not demolish it.

Continue the war in Afghanistan in Iraq. But I want to save them. I want to say these hapless nations. America and the other countries that fight in Afghanistan and Iraq.
We are saying you have to leave Afghanistan for the Afghanis. You have leave Iraq for the Iraqis. Leave them even if they fight each other. They are free to do so.

The civil war took place even in the USA. Nobody interfered. The civil war also took place in Spain and in China and in many parts of the world and nobody interfered. If it is a civil war let it go on. Leave it for the Iraqis and for the Afghans to fight each other, they are free.

And a Conspiracy Theorist to boot!

Then we come to Kennedy's assassination in 1963. The UN General Assembly has to open the file of Kennedy's assassination. We want to know why he was killed. He was killed by someone called Lee Harvey and someone called Jack Rubbi killed Lee Harvey, the assasin of Kennedy.


We want to know why this Jack Rubbi, the Israeli, killed the assassin of Kennedy. And Jack Rubbi himself, the killer of Kennedy's killer also died in vague circumstances before his trial. We have to return to these files and we have to know.

The following opinion is rather hard for me to swallow, though.

We as a matter of fact that we Africans are happy, proud, that one son of Africans governs the United States of America, of Africa. This is a historic event. One day that the black doesn't go where the white go and cannot be in a bus where the white is. Now, the American people, the black African Kenyan, young  voted for him and made him a president. This is a great thing, and we are proud of that.

You are the beginning of a change. He did go for a change. But as far as I'm concerned, Obama is a glimpse in the dark for the four years or the next eight years, and I’m afraid that we may go back to square one. How can you guarantee America after Obama? Can you guarantee after Obama how America will be governed?

No one can guarantee America. We are content and happy if Obama can stay forever as the president of the United States of America.

The document does have a consistent "voice" so I'm thinking it's probably the real deal.
It is worth a read and goes much deeper into the world situation--and the U.N. problem--than is apparent from the quotes I picked here.

Speech of Gaddafi to UN General Assembly, 2009



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Well, i dont know about any of the truths in this OP but what about the murders he committed?

Are you saying that the murders.genocides were faked?

I'm not questioning your belief here but who killed all those people then if it wasn't him and his crew?



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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I have never seen such an outpouring of love for a tyrant, terrorist and murderer in my life!
A lot of people on here belong on the other side of the fence!
Live in a country where women are killed for "honor" even if they were raped if you want (a lot of Islamic countries)! but I will choose to stay where we have an imperfect democratic country where human rights can be watched!



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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I feel the same as you maybe you could help me on my last post in this thread



posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by discharged77
OP, everything that you have stated is true. Sad that so many here in the states are controlled by the TV, read and think for yourself, do your own research, draw your own conclusions. When TPTB want someone dead that bad you need to ask yourself WHY?? No public trial, there is a reason why not..WAKE UP PEOPLE!!


I remember a day when people used to get outraged about these type of executions by our "civilized" nations..

Must have been a movie or something...

Thinking of it this sounds just like some mobster movie. Just replace "alcohol" into "oil" and ur set.
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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I have never seen such willful ignorance to look at the bigger picture. Quick to judge after reading a few MSM headlines, people just move on to the next story, not bothering to dig deeper..
What bugs me most is the dodgy reporting, the questionable footage, and its all brushed aside and those who dig are yet again, conspiracy theorists. So how bout the rape kits? Nada. Bah, what's the use.
Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction. If NATO is force of good, why are they being blockaded now in Serbia? Oh they must be terrorists too ?


 
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Very interesting stuff indeed. I knew right off the bat that something was different with Libya’s "uprising" and questioned it because of several reasons:

1) Media's attention and exposure in relatively short span (as compared to Egypt, Tunasia)
2) Media's taking the side of the "rebels" as oppose to it's coverage of Egypt and Tunasia at the start which was more neutral and recognized Mubaraks leadership (which they did not do with Libya).
3) Showed different sides to the uprisings in Egypt (effects of the protesting on business owners, Mubarak's friendly relations with Israel), asked questions such as who would take the leadership's place and focused on a large muslim sect positioning for power gain (did not do the same with Libya)
4) Stressed how Mubaraks government held peace in the region.
5) Obama lack of support for the protesters until it became obvious that most of the world (citizens at least) and most of Americans (at least those not in fear of a islamic takeover) supported them. With Libya is was the exact opposite.
6) Offered no military support (again exact opposite of what happened in Libya)
7) Reports from alternative media that Al Qaida was a major part of the rebels forces; ignored mostly by the MSM.
8) The MSM insistence of naming the fighting forces "rebels" when covering Libya and used the word "insurgents" when describing Egypt’s forces. Both terms mean technically the same thing, but are interpreted in different ways by the people due to Orwellian like use of doublespeak.
9) Libya has large Oil reserves and resources.
10) Called Gaddafi a "dictator" while calling Mubarak the "president" of Egypt, even though both were techinically dictators.
11) Demonized Gaddafi a la Saddam Hussein, and constantly reminded the public of his roles in terrorist attacks.

That was a few months ago before I knew anything about the man other then what I perceived as a fluke, and brutal dictator (not having researched him well). When I saw the picture of his body I knew he was tortured and beaten and news of him dying in a firefight was bogus. For whatever reason I felt really sad by seeing that even though I still thought he was a brutal dictator (and I am sure he was in instances; the man was by no means a saint). After reading his 2009 UN speech (which I recommend everyone do) I was shocked that such a brutal dictator would push such ideas and started to question his public persona thrown down our throats by the MSM. From what I have read this week has kind made me even more sad, because I should have known better than to take anything that the MSM says about foreign policy with a grain of salt.
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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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so i guess i wont get any reply to my post. I am asking if anyone can help my predicament or is it people are afraid to tackle the real issue that confronts real family's. Not idealistic young people, help me see what i can do with out in dangering the future of my kids which i am prepared to do so with in reason.





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