Neuro-linguistic Programming and Occupy Movemant , page 1

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we are watching

Do not post randomly but post something relevant or ill lulz you to boredom

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Originally posted by Redevilfan09
3 videos, of what?

Can you tell me about them before I watch them, please?

You can start by reading through the link in my second post and then we can work our way up or down or right to left.

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reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Hmm. What are you trying to say exactly? The guy in the 1st video looks to be seriously under the influence of something. Alcohol, meds, illicit substances? It certainly doesn't help him make a point. But that aside.

My question to you is this.

Is it okay for Obama (and probably many others before him) to use the same techniques (Ericksonian hypnosis) in campaign speeches? And I don't quite understand the significance of The Love Boat theme song. (A show I have never seen)

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Hmm. What are you trying to say exactly? The guy in the 1st video looks to be seriously under the influence of something. Alcohol, meds, illicit substances? It certainly doesn't help him make a point. But that aside.

My question to you is this.

Is it okay for Obama (and probably many others before him) to use the same techniques (Ericksonian hypnosis) in campaign speeches? And I don't quite understand the significance of The Love Boat theme song. (A show I have never seen)

Although the appearance of the speaker in the video may indicate that he may or may not be under the influence as you pointed out, but he is available to speak to on his talk show. So i guess that can be quickly cleared up if and how much this guy is on the level. As for the love boat theme, it is purely a reference point to some individuals within ats either as lurkers or as members.

reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Thank you for answering. But the Obama question? He used the same techniques in campaign speeches. Is that better or worse than the alleged use of same techniques by Occupy?

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Thank you for answering. But the Obama question? He used the same techniques in campaign speeches. Is that better or worse than the alleged use of same techniques by Occupy?

Yes, the Obama along with previous and future administrations all use the same techniques, is that better or worse as you asked, well they are in the same boat, all of these movements occupy and utilize techniques that have and always do have one common goal.

A quick example is also watching major or should i say international networks, they all have similar functions. News casters may make the wrist movement to view their wrist watch and follow up with a " its that time of day" etc and others may follow up with a " its that time of hour " , this example i typed was a brief but most used across the planet. Emphasizing time and its restrictions that a choice needs to be made under confined guidelines.

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Thank you for answering. But the Obama question? He used the same techniques in campaign speeches. Is that better or worse than the alleged use of same techniques by Occupy?

This may help you understand it or give you a simple insight.

A 1 hour and 16 minute video of a lecture that one should take the time to view.


I endorse and recommend it.

reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Again, I do understand the technique but it is rooted in...falsality. I mean you are projecting an idea, a lie, an ideal that you want people to focus on while avoiding the real agenda of your true plans. I can see how it might apply to politicians and salesmen, but it is still false. I still honestly do not see how it applies to OWS. You seem to be implying that they are just a different bunch of sheeple all responding to NLP and I do not believe that to be the case. At least, not en masse. People are cold, tired, hungry and poor. Can you say the same about the government? Thanks for your response though.

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by cerebralassassins

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Again, I do understand the technique but it is rooted in...falsality. I mean you are projecting an idea, a lie, an ideal that you want people to focus on while avoiding the real agenda of your true plans. I can see how it might apply to politicians and salesmen, but it is still false. I still honestly do not see how it applies to OWS. You seem to be implying that they are just a different bunch of sheeple all responding to NLP and I do not believe that to be the case. At least, not en masse. People are cold, tired, hungry and poor. Can you say the same about the government? Thanks for your response though.

This movement named Occupy Wall Street when it surfaced was not derived buy a group of people who are hungry or tired or simply fed up with the politicians or bankers. If you really would like to see how this evolved then perhaps you should look at how it spawned and when it spawned. The global financial crisis did not happen over night, but has been in full swing for well over three to five years. You might ask how come it wasn't heard of before, well in actual fact, it was very much real and alive within various European cities. What one would define as a crisis others define as civil unrest or rioting. Something sadly this site has chosen to use the term " civil unrest " rather than actually defining and not generalizing what should and how it should be categorized when citizens move under a common ideology from a single pivot point.

The occupy wall street and occupy everything else within the u.s. in my eyes is nothing more, or should i say, i see it as a blue chip business. If the citizens within the u.s. wanted to make a change then they shouldn't occupy individual federal building within states but rather meet and occupy what the foundation of the u.s. is, namely the White House. At this point and i want to point out that by simply typing this within the site i am receiving various multiple eyeballs. Again, occupying wall street is as ridiculous and stupid to me as a group occupying star buck stores, one should focus on what is the foundation and pivot point of all that represents the nations citizens and not what they have been falsely led to obviously believe in blind faith. But then again, making such obvious points and finger pointing to mass brainwashing and subliminal thought alteration is always knowing that denial is the first and foremost security trigger placed in position.

reply to post by cerebralassassins

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I agree with everything you said but wouldn't Occupy The White House be technically if not morally illegal? I mean, don't they have snipers on the roof and other "anti-terrorism" (cough) measures in place to prevent that? Of course it's the government to blame, they control all. Maybe they just picked a bad place to start, but I don't think it is quite over yet either even with a cold winter approaching.

How can citizens enforce a change? Voting hasn't seemed to help much at all. Its all the same, whether its red, blue or whatever other colours the political parties there wear (I am not living in the US btw) ?

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by cerebralassassins

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I agree with everything you said but wouldn't Occupy The White House be technically if not morally illegal? I mean, don't they have snipers on the roof and other "anti-terrorism" (cough) measures in place to prevent that? Of course it's the government to blame, they control all. Maybe they just oucked a bad place to start, but I don't think it is quite over yet either even with a cold winter approaching.

How can citizens enforce a change? Voting hasn't seemed to help much at all. Its all the same, whether its red, blue or whatever other colours the political parties there wear (I am not living in the US btw) ?

Glad to see that our interaction has taken us directly to a rational point of interaction.

Back to topic, with respect to snipers and all counter measures in place for any possible threat either foreign or domestic, they would not and will not be called upon unarmed citizens for if that measure was to implemented it would surely mean the outcry and subsequent division of the United States into individual states. That would directly come into conflict with recent events within North Africa ( Egypt, Libya ) , Middle East ( Syria ) were the government was using the military with snipers and tactical military units in plain clothes or military fatigues to quell the civilian unrest. In short no such action would ever be enforced let alone approved by any president regardless of race creed or color.

This is the particular portion of ats that myself and others are totally not in agreement with. Keep in mind due to my stand within various groups ats is off limits to all not that it was ever under any other eye. Simply stating the disagreement in use of the English language.

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reply to post by Masonic Light

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To begin with and before we anyone declares that we put on our tin hats we need to get a grasp on reality and by saying reality i mean exactly that. Humans or should i say those who view what they are viewing are really not viewing what they are viewing. A brief but well defined example of this is the below quote and its methods used. By changing the pivot point of the target and replacing it with another pivot point you have effectively altered what, and when a particular pivot ( message, theory, objective ) point would need to be changed without the viewer or listener ever noticing the change. This is no scifi but real life military applications in every day life.

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