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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 02:41 PM by Facefirst
Originally posted by Hoppinmad1
I have heard a lot of people that belive in evolution. They belive man decended from apes. Apes descended from all the other species before them and we all originally came from the same one celled orginism. If this is true why are there still species around that we supposedly evolved from in this unadvanced state?

If evolution is true wouldn't nature seek out to make these creatures more like us since we are the most highly evolved species on earth. These species such as apes have been in existence longer than humans for the most part. Why is there only one advanced species on earth out of the billions there are?

The answer is we were created by intelligent life. God in other words. What he is I don't know but he obviously is real given the complexity of life. Evolution cannont exist. When we have children they are made up of our dna and our spouses. The process that make the child, use the dna available to it provided by the parents. So how could a species develope into another if it can only choose the dna available to that creature?

[edit on 31-8-2004 by Hoppinmad1]


I think fossils are enough proof that evolution and natural selection exists.

There was a new species of Monkey discovered in South America in the last two or three years. The astounding part of the find is that this particular type of monkey appears to have a basic rudimentary language. I heard it reported on the news last year. I'll try to find some links.

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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 10:07 PM by The Big O
The "Why are we smart" and "Why arn't they smart" argument is not a valid point of view.

I offer an instance in nature currently that explains that even within the "animal kingdom" there are drastic differences in the same species of animals in regard to intelligence.

Birds: A cardinal will just sit on a perch and sing and eat worms and do other bird things. An African Gery will sit on a perch and sing but also chit chat with you and learn to speak to you in context and maybe even ask if you would hand them your favorite toy.

www.pbs.org.../scientific/pbssaf1201_220k.asf&s=1895395&e=2687958

Scientific American Frontiers
Episode: Pet Tech
Date: 10-16-2001

Watch this video to see just how evolved the animal brain can be.

The difference is an African Grey shares the same level of intelligence as that of a 3 year old child. They both are from some bird or animal in the past? However, something in the past caused the branch of the gene pool parrots are from to get bigger brains. I do not think they would even develop words and conversation on their own, that is silly.

If you look at the evolutionary arguments and periodicals written, and produced, about humans and where we come from, there are a lot of elements that allowed us to become what we are today. Diet, atmosphere, climate, and a good breeding pool all combined to help us "leap" in evolutionary terms as far as intelligence goes. All of these elements worked together over a short period of times to move us away from the direction chimps and gorillas took. Just as some of the same elemets helped Amazon's move away from the path Cardinals took.

Could a similar "leap" happen in another species? What if we never took the "leap?" What if it was birds? Or maybe dolphins? They are supposed to be just as smart as Amazons, perhaps even smarter? They have to be, they're the only other animal that has sex for pleasure!

Our bodies helped us develop the traits we needed to become what we are today. Opposable thumbs, larynx, an articulate tounge, are just a few of these.

What you have to think about is now why not, but why in the first place?

Unfortunatly, until life is discovered on another planet in some way, shape, or form, none of our questions will be answered. We need something to compare outselves to, some other form of evolutionary scheme, to really deconstruct why it works the way it does. The interesting part is that just because life is discovered somewhere else doesn't mean that there is no God.

I hope this adds to the discussion.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 05:00 PM by nomorecruelty
reply to post by ashanu90



Plainly put, if evolution were to be true in any sense, not only would there be no monkeys, there would also not be "man" - because IF evolution were true, mankind himself would have "evolved" into some other creature over the centuries.

Evolution is nothing but a tired old topic that is still being used to try to explain away God.

Boring, and still boring.




reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 05:01 PM by ashanu90
reply to post by nomorecruelty



proven false over and over and over again?

state your sources please


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 05:03 PM by nomorecruelty
reply to post by ZeroDeep



The only "evolution" present is within each species - i.e. a domestic cat might have started out as a large tiger type of feline but over the centuries has mated with different types within the feline species resulting eventually in the domestic cat.

But will that cat "evolve" into a man or a chimp or a tennis shoe?

No.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 05:06 PM by nomorecruelty
reply to post by ashanu90



The proof is all over the internet - Google, my friend, Google. There are no pantyhose on my legs - i.e. I'm not anyone's secretary.


There are a gazillion different sources out there - videos, essays, scientific research, literary works, public forum debates, personal websites, etc.

This oughta get you started........

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