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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by nineix
reply to post by projectvxn
The method and solution is the same. Bawl like child long and loud enough, and eventually someone will come along to change the diaper, give a binky, bottle of milk, etc.
My previous reply, can be addressed to you as well. If you don't like the way things are being run, why don't you lead by example? Come up with a solution and put that solution into motion.
Or would you rather just sit there and bad mouth OWS and not really do anything?
Okay, NOW, off I go to write that guest spot for a blog that I was asked to do.
Peace and love
Originally posted by rancher1
reply to post by KingAtlas
Great thread. its so true. OWS as already gave some remedies, people just find something wrong with anything they say, The 2 remedies I know of are,,
1. Reinstate Glass -Steagel
2. Eliminate Corp contributions..
Now you might not like these solutions, but they are there for all to see. Like it or not. If you don't like them like the OP said what's your solution ?
Originally posted by KingAtlas
Every half an hour or so a new thread is created about what OWS is doing wrong.
Most of the time it comes from people here who say that they are targeting the wrong place, saying the wrong things, letting in the wrong groups, and not acting in the way they should.
Truly take in the scope of this, it is a historic event. Honestly when I first joined this site I would neveer have imagined that peopel would be protesting on Wall street, it really amazes me to think that that is happening.
Pointing out problems is easy, creating solutions is hard.
The game is up: we see through the pyramid schemes of the temples of cultural elitism controlled by the 1%. No longer will we, the artists of the 99%, allow ourselves to be tricked into accepting a corrupt hierarchical system based on false scarcity and propaganda concerning absurd elevation of one individual genius over another human being for the monetary gain of the elitest of elite.
But the alliance appeared to be faltering yesterday as St Paul’s closed for the first time since the Blitz, claiming it had no choice because of the dangers posed by the growing numbers on its doorstep.
With 250 people living in the London churchyard, the “unprecedented” decision, which will cost the church £23,000 a day, was announced by the dean, the Rt Rev Graeme Knowles.
4/12/2011--Introduced.Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011 - Amends the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (FDIA) to prohibit an insured depository institution from being an affiliate of any broker or dealer, investment adviser, investment company, or any other person or entity engaged principally in the issue, flotation, underwriting, public sale, or distribution of stocks, bonds, debentures, notes, or other securities. Prohibits officers, directors and employees of securities firms from simultaneous service on the boards of depository institutions, except in specified circumstances. Requires any such individual serving as an officer, director, employee, or other institution-affiliated party of any insured depository institution to terminate such service as soon as practicable after enactment of this Act. Requires an insured depository institution to wind-down in an orderly manner and terminate any affiliation prohibited by this Act. Amends the Banking Act of 1933 (Glass-Steagall Act) to expand its prohibition against the transaction of banking activities by securities firms. Declares that Congress ratifies the interpretation by the Supreme Court of specified statutory language in the case of Investment Company Institute v. Camp ( ICI vs. Camp) regarding permissible activities of banks and securities firms. Declares that the reasoning of the Court in that case shall continue to apply to the limitations placed upon security affiliations under the FDIA as enacted by this Act. Prohibits a federal banking agency or federal court from issuing an interpretation regarding such security affiliations that is narrower than that of Court in ICI vs. Camp. Makes technical and conforming changes to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, the Revised Statutes of the United States, and specified federal law. Requires the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Comptroller of the Currency, or another appropriate federal banking agency to report to Congress a detailed description of the basis for its decision each time it makes a determination or grants an extension concerning an affiliation between insured depository institutions and investment banks or securities firms.
7/7/2011--Introduced.Glass-Steagall Restoration Act of 2011 - Amends the Banking Act of 1933 (Glass-Steagall Act) to prohibit a member bank from being affiliated with specified organizations engaged principally in the issue, flotation, underwriting, public sale, or distribution of stocks, bonds, debenture, notes, or other securities. Prohibits the staff and personnel of corporations and partnerships (as well as any individual) primarily engaged in the issue, flotation, underwriting, public sale, or distribution, of stocks, bonds, or other similar securities from serving simultaneously as an officer, director, or employee of any member bank. Authorizes the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to grant an exception in limited classes of cases when in the Board's judgment it would not unduly influence the investment policies of such member bank or the advice it gives its customers regarding investments.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by KingAtlas
Pointing out problems is easy, creating solutions is hard.
I'm still waiting for OWS to get to the creating solutions part.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Honor93
How did you manage to come up with the concept that OWS was taking credit for the bills? All I was saying was that Occupy was talking about them and urging supporters to call/email their representatives to let them know as an individual they wanted it to be passed.
To those who think they should be protesting at the whitehouse, go to the white house and protest.
Originally posted by KingAtlas
Good info boys. It's nice to see some people are still well informed.
The thing I think is important to get from all this is that people are willing to stand up again, I truly think that is amazing. Imagine if 15-20 years ago if people rallied against the problems in this manor they would have been called "conspiracy nuts".
One of the things I find funny is that because we are so used to following leadership that because there is no distinct leader then alot of people can't comprehend the message. I also believe it is hard to have a leader in a movement that is againt the corruption of power that leaders create.
I am not saying that I can clarify, alls that I understand is that people are tired and fed up.
Some say that going back to the constitution might be the best thing, but there are problems with that also.
The biggest being that it was written a few hundred years ago.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by rancher1
I've heard almost no-one mention glass steagall.
I have. In post after post. And the OWS people call me a fascist in return for not standing with the socialists and communists that are tolerated in these rallies.
I suppose it's not that much of a stretch to see why they are supported as the majority of their adherents are far left: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Besides, they have stated time and time again that they don't want reform they want revolution.
edit on 21-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by projectvxn
Now again, when is OWS going to come up with a list of solutions to the problems instead of having it's proponents, like yourself, look down your nose at anyone who criticizes your ineffectual and aimless little movement?
It's getting really annoying having to defend oneself for asking questions like "What is your purpose and direction".
And no one can come up with an answer. All you people do is deflect because you know as well as I do that you're not getting anything done but throw a tantrum for the world to see while blaming rich people for your problems.edit on 21-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by KingAtlas
Pointing out problems is easy, creating solutions is hard.
I'm still waiting for OWS to get to the creating solutions part.