Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland, page 1
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Topic started on 21-10-2011 @ 04:25 PM by neo96
With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.


Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department's $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the company's manufacturing jobs are still limited to the assembly of the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car in Finland.


abcnews.go.com...

Here you go another solyndra but worse while millions of American's without a pot to pee here is your administration going green making jobs anywhere but here.

This stupidity has got to stop this is your tax dollars at work they blow it they come back don't ask and take more and go do it all over again and there are people screaming at the top of their voices tax the rich.

Sessions had something to say on this a while ago.



They need to pass this solyndra rule to stop this stupidity.
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reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 04:46 PM by Evolutionsend
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That's nothing new. They've been doing it for years.


reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 04:59 PM by neo96
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It’s official: Tesla Motors has won approval for $465 million in low-interest direct loans from the Department of Energy under the delayed Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing Program. Tesla, which now sells a $109,000 electric sports car, has just been awarded what the DOE calls “conditional loan commitments” to set up manufacturing in California. This represents a huge step for the startup on its at-times bumpy road to producing the long-planned electric sedan, the Model S, and accelerating its nascent battery pack supply business.


gigaom.com...

The U.S. Department of Energy has finally announced the first recipient of low interest loans under its Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing Incentive Program. The first recipient is Ford, and analysts believe the DoE will award sums to Nissan and Tesla Motors, as well. Ford applied for up to $11 billion in loans, but instead it was awarded $5.9 billion in financing. The Dearborn-based automaker will use the money to fund its electric vehicle program that will launch a battery-powered version of the Transit Connect in 2010, and it will also likely use the capital to help pay for the $550 million renovation of its Wayne, MI sport-utility plant to build the next-generation Focus in both internal combustion and electric flavors.


www.autoblog.com...

To true crony capitalism at it's finest I can see why Paul want's to get rid of the Department of Energy.
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reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 05:59 PM by 1825114
This wasn't long after GM 'went bankrupt' and got a few tonnes of bailout money...

GM to Build New Vehicle at Plant in Mexico
Will invest $500 million at plant in Ramos Arispe

Aug. 4, 2010

General Motors will invest $500 million to produce a new vehicle and eight-cylinder engines in a plant in northeastern Mexico, a company spokesman said on August 4.

The decision was announced at a meeting on August 3 between GM management and Mexican officials, the spokesman said, without giving details of the new vehicle.

The investment in the GM plant in Ramos Arispe, Coahuila state, would generate 390 jobs, he added.

I never really followed up on where we're at with that now. There is this though...
GM says bankruptcy excuses it from Impala repairs
NEW YORK, Aug 19 (Reuters) - General Motors Co is seeking to dismiss a lawsuit over a suspension problem on more than 400,000 Chevrolet Impalas from the 2007 and 2008 model years, saying it should not be responsible for repairs because the flaw predated its bankruptcy...

...The current company, called "New GM," said it did not assume responsibility under the reorganization to fix the Impala problem, but only to make repairs "subject to conditions and limitations" in express written warranties. In essence, the automaker said, Trusky sued the wrong entity.

"New GM's warranty obligations for vehicles sold by Old GM are limited to the express terms and conditions in the Old GM written warranties on a going-forward basis," wrote Benjamin Jeffers, a lawyer for GM. "New GM did not assume responsibility for Old GM's design choices, conduct, or alleged breaches of liability under the warranty." ...

...GM said an argument similar to Trusky's failed this year in a case involving its OnStar security and navigation product.

"There are no specific factual allegations that New GM -- as opposed to Old GM -- did anything at all in relation to her vehicle," Jeffers wrote. "Plaintiff here is trying to saddle new GM with the alleged liability and conduct of old GM."


And on the globalization note...

Richard Day, 3/20/1969:
"The stated plan was that different parts of the world would be assigned different roles of industry and commerce in a unified global system. The continued preeminence of the United States and the relative independence and self-sufficiency of the United States would have to be changed... in order to create a new structure, you first have to tear down the old, and American industry was one example of that."...

"Each part of the world will have a specialty and thus become inter-dependent, he said. The US will remain a center for agriculture, high tech, communications, and education but heavy industry would be "transported out."

And this...

NAU : 1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days
Originally posted by Vitchilo
A big part of the north american union is about to go forward after years of delay.

1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days
The first Mexican carrier is set to roll into the U.S. interior within days, but American trucking union leaders and two California congressmen haven't given up on stopping the cross-border trucking program that had been stalled for years by safety concerns and political wrangling.

U.S. Reps. Duncan Hunter and Bob Filner said they'll take a bipartisan stand at the border Wednesday in San Diego to voice concerns about the bilateral pilot project that will allow approved Mexican trucks to come deep into the United States. Hunter is a San Diego-area Republican, while Filner is a Democrat whose district includes California's border with Mexico.

They will join Teamsters union President James Hoffa and Todd Spencer, the owner-operator of the Independent Drivers Association, in a last-ditch effort to block Mexican trucks from being granted full access to U.S. highways.

Allowing Mexican trucking companies to deliver the goods rather than transfer them onto U.S. haulers at the border will put American jobs and highway safety at risk, the union leaders say.

Not only this is big for the north american union plan... it's going to cost jobs.


Go to that thread and read about the SPP and bill c-36, I'm pretty sure they have a lot to do with things we're seeing lately


reply posted on 22-10-2011 @ 12:06 AM by paxnatus
If this in and of itself were not bad enough. This spiffy little new electric car, gets worse mileage than a Ford Explorer SUV in the city!!

This according to Forbes.com:


Fisker Karma Electric Car Gets Worse Mileage Than an SUV


Forbes.com

This administration, has proved to be such an utter failure for the American people, their best bet would be to sneak out in the dead of night.

Everyday, the world wakes up to another White House Scandal. It is beyond ridiculous.

Pax


reply posted on 22-10-2011 @ 10:01 AM by muzzleflash
Ever heard of the European Recovery Program? aka the Marshall Plan?

I realize it may seem far fetched since that happened half a century ago, but essentially this is part of a complex many-pronged style policy that really reflects many of the qualities found within the ERP.

They just put new branding on it and new packaging. It still looks a lot like the old product however.
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reply posted on 22-10-2011 @ 12:28 PM by allprowolfy
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Ever heard of the
European Recovery Program? aka the Marshall Plan?

I realize it may seem far fetched since that happened half a century ago, but essentially this is part of a complex many-pronged style policy that really reflects many of the qualities found within the ERP.

They just put new branding on it and new packaging. It still looks a lot like the old product however.
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I am feeling what your putting down per se. Totally agree with you as our government has to have a legit way to show to the american people where this money goes thus, your above hypothesis makes perfect sense to me
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