In memory of Col. Muammar Gaddafi...For those who don't know, the truth revealed, page 3

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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 07:07 PM by pshea38

I posted this on another thread but it fits equally here:

www.corriere.it...

The writing in black over the second tunnel is inconsistent in both pictures.
The shadow directions are inconsistent within the second picture, with some appearing
to go up and to the left while others go down and to the right!

Two Suns, or Plain Old Photoshop (Again)????

Are We Really Still Believing ANYTHING The Sold-Out MSM Vomits Out?

This whole charade (as presented to the public) has been mired in Media Fakery since
the get-go, and SeptemberClues called it from the start in February! See Here! from www.cluesforum.info

(And ATS have the gumption to escort all 9/11 Media Fakery threads to the hoax bin - Ha!)

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 07:15 PM by chr0naut

This death is another in a grasp for power, a war, between the two "sides" of Islam, Shia & Sunni.

It has been going on covertly and overtly ever since Muhammad died (from being poisoned by one of the people he oppressed).

Without a defined succession, the Islamic movement begun by Muhammad was "led" by the most opportunistic, devious and brutal. In no instance has one faction truly overcome, or granted pardon to, the other.

One of the most overt expressions of this was the Iran-Iraq war.

The rolling overthrow of Islamic governments that we are watching happen now is just part of the struggle between the factions. It has little to do with democracy or the rights of the people.

Muslims appear to hate themselves nearly as much as they say they hate the Jews.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 07:18 PM by juleol

They apparently bombed the facilities for the "great man made river" as well, so i think it is pretty clear who is the most evil here.
If the water supply is ruined then people will starve and have no clean water to drink, but yet USA/NATO decided to bomb this, risking millions of civilian life for no real reason.

I am sure Gaddafi is no saint, but what we do is even worse crime against humanity.

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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 08:05 PM by jonnywhite

reply to post by Human0815

He was a cruel man. His book was just a book. The reality is far from peaceful or friendly.

I breath a sigh of relief knowing he is dead now. If not now, soon.

The reality is that he was an oppressor. I realize that the rebels may not be much better, but that does not justify doing nothing to stop Gaddafi and his loyalist regime.

What's ironic to me is that he educated his citizens, or tried to. It had the effect of giving them a thirst for freedom. They saw through his lies. He created his own death sentence.

That's almost poetic in its beauty.

Alas, dictators almost always, eventually, create the very opposition they try to destroy.

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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 08:53 PM by Char-Lee

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by michaelmcclen

No, actually this is so far from the truth that you wouldn't believe. But don't take my word for it - go to Libya yourself, travel around and see exactly what the people got from him. Bits of Tripoli and Benghazi are great and like major cities in major global powers. Most of Benghazi and Tripoli however is a bit of a hole, not to mention the rest of the country. Often there is no power, despite all the wealth generated. Running water can be hit and miss. Sewage systems are poor in large parts of the country.

Libya has an excellent educational system however and some very articulate people. I will give him that

As with Suddom Hussein in Iraq, what was it like in Libya before Gahdaphi?

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 09:06 PM by LightAssassin

reply to post by jonnywhite

Wow, you must be so educated on the situation to make a statement like that. I'm sure you've not based any presumptions off mainstream media either.

You know what. Provide me with the evidence. Provide me with the scenario that makes him far worse than the President of the U.S!!!

Drivel.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 09:48 PM by Raivan31

reply to post by LightAssassin

I don't know what to believe sometimes.
This is one of those times.

When i found out about his death earlier today i thought 'Great' another despot gone, but the reality is that it isn't that black and white.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 09:49 PM by roguetechie

reply to post by Skewed

Actually Lockerbie is still debatable....

Sources I have found say lockerbie was actually Iran operating through the PFLP in revenge for the Iranian airliner shootdown in the persian gulf.

Feel free to take a look at my thread about libya not being responsible for lockerbie. Proof that libya didn't commit lockerbie

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 09:56 PM by LightAssassin

Complete Transcript
[Historic Speech of Gaddafi to UN General Assembly, 2009]

Note: United Nations removed the English transcript of his speech from its website and western media removed the transcript from all types of media resources. MetaExistence Organization made an effort to restore the original transcript from his video speech. Gaddafi showed a actual evil face of UN and security council to the world.
Truth always be truth . . . . You never hide it

Gaddafi's 2009 UN speech

I urge you all to read the WHOLE speech.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 10:22 PM by Terrorist

reply to post by LightAssassin

It's good to be objective in something, but not to just arbitrarily take the other side, especially when you know the other side is associated with numerous atrocities.
I was and am completely against the US & NATO war in Libya, but it is impossible to pretend that Gaddafi wasn't a dictator and in power for 40+ years. Regardless of what reforms he may have at some point made, he still has to answer for those two facts. Please do not ignore what I said, I look forward to you actually acknowledging my points. (I honestly don't see how you could possibly disagree, at least in principle)

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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 10:33 PM by aaronez

I believe the world is being prepared for something very big with the sweeping away of the old guard. Note that those being removed (i.e., Mubarak, Gaddaffi, and soon al-Assad in Syria) are all old socialists who were previously supported by the communist regime of the old USSR (now Russia). What could this mean? The New World Order is rising? Or the prelude to World War 3 and a mass extermination? I guess we shall soon find out...

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 11:13 PM by nuttin4U

Here's a silly little question: Has Gadhafi done ANYTHING to you, you, you OR you? I know he hasn't affected my life....therefore, i have nothing to say about the man; never knew him.....personally. What i do know is this:
Muammer Gaddafi - Great Manmade River
en.wikipedia.org...

I'm not sure why people are so concerned about others....1,000's of miles away? Why don't people get concerned about the communitys they live in...and start making a difference there?

And you know what else...stop acting like other countries are the ones going around bombing everyone...when they want things done 'THEIR' way. You people should take a long hard stare in the mirror and SNAP OUT OF THE IGNORANCE! We're ALL slaves to the government. No matter what country the government is formed in. If a country has a government, best believe, corruption runs DEEP! And you best believe OUR interests are NOT "their" interests. We're not even in "their" club.

Why do we allow other men to RULE US? HE-LLLLOOOOOOOOOO???? Are you telling me, we can't GOVERN ourselves......BY LOVING EACH OTHER. My God...................what will it TAKE???

DENY IGNORANCE, HUH??? Pfft! First, people have to come out of denial...in order to DENY it!

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 11:28 PM by LightAssassin

reply to post by Terrorist

I acknowledge them. I also acknowledge a lot of the other things he has tried to do. Good things. Have you? Once again I urge you to investigate.

It does not change the fact the reasons for this rebellion, and how it started, wasn't at all for the benefit of the people.

They were merely a pawn, as are we all.

I take the other side because in this game there is no middle ground. You are either supporting the world global corruption/agenda, or you are supporting those fighting against it. Gaddafi is/was one of those.

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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 11:42 PM by LightAssassin

reply to post by nuttin4U

More drivel.

Seriously. Get real. Govern ourselves. Sure. First we need to depose all governments. First we need an almighty revolution.

Why worry about people 1000's of miles away? Because if we don't reveal the lies then next thing it is happening to us and the media the world is seeing about us will be manipulated to no end.

Love is a great foundation. It cannot, though, remove the evil elements within the hierarchy of society, industry and government. Action needs that to happen.

As for Libya, the Islamist Rebels will now implement extreme islamic law and Libya will be far more oppressed than ever before. YAY for intervention.

The people, as always, are easily convinced. Good propaganda does that. And money.

That is why Vietnam was such a success for 'the people'. No amount of propaganda changed the Vietnamese minds and then the western world realised it wasn't our war. The US was only ever there for the Golden triangle.

If people weren't so focused on OWS maybe, just maybe, they would have been protesting about Libya.

We will never know now.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 11:51 PM by JudgeDeath

reply to post by LightAssassin

The manner in which Gaddafi was hunted down and killed like a dog disgusts even me OP, but like Saddam Hussein in the end he got his just deserts.

Please don't take my opinion personally OP or I'll un-flag you...the star you get to keep.

reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 11:57 PM by LightAssassin

reply to post by JudgeDeath

I just want to know why? Why is it his 'just desserts'?. PROOF? Please.

Flags, bah, please take it back. I care not. Not that I've taken your comment about Gaddafi personally.

Threats, though, personally don't go down well with me.

I'm holding up my three middle fingers and I'm asking you to read between the lines.

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reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 12:08 AM by Skippy1138

reply to post by LightAssassin

I can't believe you are celebrating a mentally unstable butcher.....I was going to make a nice big post with all the atrocities he's committed but once I started researching I realized i don't have the energy to do it all-just type his name and "atrocities" into Google- nuff said.....

reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 12:10 AM by LightAssassin

reply to post by Skippy1138

Actually, I would love to see that thread.

Guess what, I just did. Guess what I found? Nothing before March 2011. Strange that!!!

Oh, you mean THESE atrocities:

YouTube Link

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reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 12:25 AM by JudgeDeath

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by LightAssassin

I can't believe you are celebrating a mentally unstable butcher.....I was going to make a nice big post with all the atrocities he's committed but once I started researching I realized i don't have the energy to do it all-just type his name and "atrocities" into Google- nuff said.....

Skippy I wouldn't bother, check out the Elenin Sig

reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 12:31 AM by polarwarrior