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In memory of Col. Muammar Gaddafi...For those who don't know, the truth revealed

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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I dedicate this to a man I knew nothing about until NATO and the MSM brought my attention to him.

I also dedicate this to those who are celebrating his death, even quietly.




Originally posted by wcitizen
Just look how easy it is to fake news footage....



Did you notice that in the first clip, the crowd were not Libyans, but Indians waving Indian flags?

Far fetched, our MSM wouldn't do that, right?

That's exactly what the BBC did, AND claimed it was 'live from Tripoli'.

In the comment under the video, the guy who made this explains how he swapped video clips, sounds, etc to create fake news.

Understand everyone, Hollywood, Psyops and the MSM are ALL ONE. The news we receive is barely more real than a Hollywood movie.
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Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
MODs please do not delete this thread as I believe this report hasn't been introduced to ATS until now.

So I found this damning piece of evidence (dated 4th January 2011) from the UN Human Rights website which clearly shows undeniable proof that there was absolutely NO EVIDENCE of serious Human Right's abuses as accused by NATO and UN presently.
Libya Human Rights Report by UN - 4th January 2011

UN Human Rights Reports Homepage

Whats more, SEVERAL countries even praised Libya's excellent Human rights Track Record, and now they are all on NATO's side to topple Gaddafi! Hypocrisy or what?! Ofcourse, the USA, UK, France and Israel remained very criticising, but that was expected.




30. Qatar praised the legal framework for the protection of human rights and freedoms, including, inter alia, its criminal code and criminal procedure law, which provided legal guarantees for the implementation of those rights.

37. Saudi Arabia commended the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s achievements in its
constitutional, legislative and institutional frameworks, which showed the importance that
the country attached to human rights

63. Australia welcomed the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s progress in human rights and its
willingness to facilitate visits by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, which
demonstrated the country’s commitment to engaging with the international community on
human rights.

64. Canada welcomed improvements made by the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in its respect
for human rights.

77. The United Arab Emirates admired the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s ratification of the
majority of the human rights treaties.


It sounds like Western countries were trying to force Libya into becoming a country it couldn't obviously become because of the fact the people in Libya follow Islamic values and not Western values. Whats more, the New Rebel NTC government intend too fully enforce Sharia Law in Libya...Go Figure...

Also, contradictory to popular belief and the Rebels finding extreme satisfaction burning it - Gaddafi's Green book is hardly extremist and against Human rights. Read it and judge for yourself. Gaddafi's Green Book

What the rebels are doing to Gaddafi's book can be easily compared to what the Catholic Church did to "free thinking" books hundreds of years ago.

This is I hope, enough evidence (rather than just YouTube videos) to prove that the war and intervention in Libya is based on LIES and exploitation of African Resources. If you want to stop what our Governments are doing now in Libya, I suggest WE PROTEST against this injustice before its too late.

In no way I'm saying Gaddafi was a saint. Every leader has opposition in his country but in this case NATO took advantage of the small opposition there was and turned it around against Gaddafi through lies and deceit.

And to all the sceptics who are still on the bandwagon that the Libyan War is justified to remove an "evil dictator" "oppressing" his people - DEBUNK THIS. Thats right, you can't.
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Credit that thread here not finished....
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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
I only recently started paying attention to the conflict in Libya. I actually believed what they were telling me on TV. It seemed obvious to me Gaddafi was indeed some sort of evil dictator. Therefore I didn't see any real conspiracy, it made sense that the Rebels would want to end the current regime. It took this video and this thread to make me question the mainstream projection of the conflict.

Recent news has reported that "The charred remains of about 53 people were found in a warehouse in Tripoli, apparently opponents of Gaddafi who were executed, Britain's Sky News reported on Saturday", and they sling it all over the mainstream news; yet they ignore all the evidence for war crimes committed by Rebel forces. They completely ignore the fact both sides are taking losses.

NATO are bringing death and destruction to a prosperous and peacefull country, they are actively participing in the destruction of an established Government and the reasons for doing so are clearly sinister. Why should NATO get to decide such things? Is it not up to the people of Libya to oppose the regime if they believe it is out of control?

1.7 million people assembled in Green Square, Tripoli to show defiance against the NATO bombings of Libya. That is 95% of Tripoli's population, or around 1/3 of the entire population of Libya. If the Rebels truly wanted the best for their country, why would they set up a central bank controlled by the Rothchilds when their old one issues debt free currency?!?

In 1951 Libya was the poorest country in the world. Before this conflict started they enjoyed the highest standard of living in Africa, ahead of Russia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia. They have free high quality healthcare and homes are considered a Human right. Newly married couples get $50,000 for a new house. All loans have 0% intrest by law. Let me conclude with an excerpt from Gaddafi's Green Book:


NEED

The freedom of a human being is lacking if his or her needs are controlled by others, for
need may lead to the enslavement of one person by another. Furthermore, exploitation is
caused by need. Need is an intrinsic problem and conflict is initiated by the control of
one's needs by another.

HOUSING

Housing is an essential need for both the individual and the family and should not be
owned by others. Living in another's house, whether paying rent or not, compromises
freedom. Attempts made by various countries to solve the housing problem did not
provide a definite solution because such attempts did not target the ultimate solution - the
necessity that people own their dwellings - but rather offered the reduction, increase, or
standardization of rent, whether it went to privately or publicly-owned enterprise. In a
socialist society, no one, including society itself, has the right to control people's needs.
No one has the right to acquire a house additional to his or her own dwelling and that of
his or her heirs for the purpose of renting it because this additional house is, in fact, a
need of someone else. Acquiring it for such a purpose is the beginning of controlling the
needs of others, and "in need freedom is latent".

INCOME

Income is an imperative need for man. In a socialist society, it should not be in the form of
wages from any source or charity from any one. In this society, there are no wage-earners,
but only partners. One's income is a private matter and should either be managed privately
to meet one's needs or be a share from a production process of which one is an essential
component. It should not be a wage in return for production.

MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION

Transportation is also a necessity both to the individual and to the family. It should not be
owned by others. In a socialist society, no person or authority has the right to own a
means of transportation for the purpose of renting it, for this also means controlling the
needs of others.

LAND

Land is the private property of none. Rather, everyone has the right to beneficially utilize it
by working, farming or pasturing as long as he and his heirs live on it - to satisfy their
needs, but without employing others with or without a wage. If lands were privately owned,
only the living would have a share in it



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Glad to see you brought this forward, better don your cyber kevlar now...

I respect that when there are two sides to a story, both are at least examined.

Even Hitler had true, devout and loyal followers.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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Land is permanent, while those who benefit from the land undergo, in the course of time,
changes in profession, capabilities and existence.

The aspiration of the new socialist society is to create a society which is happy because it
is free. This can only be achieved by satisfying, man's material and spiritual needs, and
that, in turn, comes about through the liberation of these needs from the control of others.
Satisfaction of these needs must be attained without exploiting or enslaving others;
otherwise, the aspirations of the new socialist society are contradicted.
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Credit this thread here

Ultimately, this is a loss for humanity. I hope this wakes a lot of people up.

It is a sad day.

LA.
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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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Ouch antar. I would love for you to read everything first. Oh and watch.
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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Whatever you think of NATO’s involvement in the Libyan civil war, don’t fall into the trap of lionizing Gaddafi because he was targeted by NATO … the guy was a brutal POS.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Nice bit of research and collaboration there bub, but I hope you don't mind me saying that nobody is going to believe this because Wolf 'Grampa-beard' Blitzen and Nancy 'BA' Grace and Anderson 'Golly Gosh' Cooper all say he was a really really REALLY bad evil man.

And everyone knows that the mainstream media would never lie to their viewers as a means to an end . . . would they . . . Would They . . . . WOULD THEY . . . ..


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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Celebrate is the wrong word. However, i am glad that he is dead. Shoot at me all you want but i have spent time living in Libya. I have seen first hand the effect he has had on the people living there. I know many Libyans who have had relatives disappear over the years (and still no idea what happened to them or where they ended up).

So, to be honest, you can peddle whatever pro Gaddhafi nonsense you wish but those of us who have seen it firsthand will be glad that it is over. I have said this in other Libya threads: the looks of terror on the faces of some people i have been talking to over in benghazi when they notice police spotters watching them talking to a westerner is something that i never forget.

Neither is the sheer pleasure some of them that i am still in contact with have now that they control their own system.

Also, whilst his economic policy of basically doing away with the old currency and giving everyone 1000 dinar was good in principle, i can tell you from first hand experience that it wasn't particularly popular in Libya and actually caused an awful lot of problems for an awful lot of the people.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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OK seems I posted based on my take on the Op... I will read on now... sorry...



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Next time you are welcome to see my name and hit the back button.


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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Libya one more to add to the list of nations falling due to the corruption and greed of the globalist.


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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Whatever the case may be, he should have been taken out years ago.

After Lockerbie we should have not slept until he was hunted down.

Good riddance.
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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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He did rule with an iron fist ,but at least his people got more from their government than any of us westeners ever did, Rest in peace.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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They're not in control. They've already set-up a banking system. They are now owned by the bankers. Celebrate that.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Well, until there is a viable alternative to the banking system, what do you suggest? They say to the world "we need some medical supplies, will you swap for sand?" or "if i lend you Sohail for a few days, will you let us have some tractors?"

Come on, you're an intelligent individual who often makes some great points. Think about it a bit......


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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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History tends to show the truth about what liberations by Westerners do, it just help prop puppet governments that still enslave their citizens while receiving briberies from the liberators.

The nation of Libya like Afghanistan and Iraq just trade one dictator for another one approved by globalist.



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Ahmadinejad is the same. The people behind him are the bad guys, he's just a mouth piece and gets slated for it. I think he's an intelligent man tbh. His views on 9/11 & the new "terror threat from Iran" comparing it to Iraq WMD lies... People hate him because of his views of Israel, maybe they'd hear more if they stayed in the UN room while he's talking.

Flame away lol



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Hold your horses! Gaddafi might not be dead or captured YET!

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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No, actually this is so far from the truth that you wouldn't believe. But don't take my word for it - go to Libya yourself, travel around and see exactly what the people got from him. Bits of Tripoli and Benghazi are great and like major cities in major global powers. Most of Benghazi and Tripoli however is a bit of a hole, not to mention the rest of the country. Often there is no power, despite all the wealth generated. Running water can be hit and miss. Sewage systems are poor in large parts of the country.

Libya has an excellent educational system however and some very articulate people. I will give him that



posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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I wonder if boncho will change his avatar pic now??

no offense meant, love ya boncho!!





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