Clinton heading to Pakistan : stop tolerating safe heavens for terrorists or else

Clinton Issues Blunt Warning to Pakistan

Setting the stage for a high-level diplomatic showdown, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton bluntly warned Pakistan’s leaders on Thursday that they would face serious consequences if they continued to tolerate safe havens for extremist organizations that have crossed the border to attack Americans and Afghans.

“No one should be in any way mistaken about allowing this to continue without paying a very big price,” Mrs. Clinton said

While those officials suggested they hoped to persuade the Pakistanis to cooperate, Mrs. Clinton’s remarks here in Afghanistan’s capital suggested the delegation would deliver a much sharper warning as well.

Thing is, it will be very hard (probably impossible) for Pakistan's government to change so drastically so fast. They have been helping, funding and training the extremists for DECADES... and for decades, the funding has been given by Saudi Arabia and the USA.... Publicly, it stopped when the Soviet Union left Afghanistan... but really, did it ever end? A lot of the foreign aid given to Pakistan and Afghanistan every year has ended up in extremists hands.

And like we say... once CIA, always CIA.

And the Pakistani generals KNOW that if they REALLY start going after extremists, they will go against a bunch of their own soldiers, their own generals, their own people... Cooperating with the US will mean ``treason`` for a lot of Pakistanis. They will fear assassination. Groups loyal to the government could turn against them and start blowing buildings inside Pakistan. And they love to use those terrorists against India, they think it's a good weapon. If they start turning against them, no more of that.

Pak army defies US, will not attack Haqqani group: Report

Pakistan's military will not take action against a militant group Washington blames for an attack against its embassy in Kabul, despite mounting American pressure to do so, a Pakistani newspaper reported on Monday.

They already told the US to suck it...

Anyway they don't ``fear`` America...
Pakistan will be forced to retaliate, CIA chief told

The effort to ensure that diplomacy and calmer heads prevail at a time of fragile relations between Pakistan and the United States is on. However, the effort notwithstanding, Islamabad has made it clear to Washington that, if it comes down to it, Pakistan will be forced to retaliate if American forces attempt to launch a unilateral strike on the country’s tribal belt.

US incursion into Waziristan unlikely: Pakistan

Pakistan's army chief of staff has played down the prospects of any "foolish" US ground offensive in the militant-infested district of North Waziristan, lawmakers said Wednesday.

Any such attack by US forces from across the Afghan border would prove 10 times harder than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, General Ashfaq Kayani was quoted as saying in a briefing Tuesday with the Pakistani lawmakers.

And of course China is on the side of Pakistan (but not that much)
Pak wants defence pact with China: Report

Pakistan has apparently been secretly lobbying for a defence pact with China though the initiative has been met with caution in Beijing, which feels that such an agreement could put the two 'all-weather' allies in trouble with the USA and India, a media report said today.

China to back Pakistan against odds;China Vice PM

Chinese Vice Prime has assured Pakistan of full support to cope up with all security perils. Meng Jianzhu called on Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and Chairman Joint Chief of Staff Committeee Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne. The Chinese vice premier discussed the region situation with a focus on the war on terrorism and the current situation.

We should see how it develops in the next few weeks.

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Clintion should be arrested and tired in war court, next to bushes

clinton and other us politicans/ corporate leaders are the real terrorists
its nothing less then disgusting that this sick war monger gets to travel the world and tell people not to support terrorists.
the day the real criminals are arrested is the day i will praise 'justice'

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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Clintion should be arrested and tired in war court, next to bushes

edit on 20-10-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)

Yep. She's a warmonger. Don't want your soldiers being killed? GET THE HELL OUT OF AFGHANISTAN.

But of course she doesn't want that. She wants money for her little friends in the war making business.

And Pakistan supports those groups... but who created them? America and Saudi Arabia.

Want to end religious extremism in Pakistan? Close all the madrassas in Pakistan. (or at least reform them) And improve Pakistan's economy.

There's no other HUMANE way.

Gee.... I always thought a superpower with the worlds mightiest army and state-of-the-art weapons and technology could have snuffed out any rag-tag resistance by the local population in no time.

The US seems to realize that they cannot win this war and are lashing out at Pakistan.

Pakistan are close to failure. The government has no power, the economy is weakening, the couldn't afford a war or even to be on bad terms with NATO. They'll start towing the line soon!

It's true, they harbour terrorists and they know all about it, they need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Cheers
Robbie

Lol. "ten times harder than Iraq/Afghanistan". Iraq was a joke, their military dropped their weapons and abandoned their tanks and ran when we invaded. The war in afghanistan would have been won 10 years ago within a week had Bush not commited us to a split push fighting in 2 countries. Please dude. When we have just 1 enemy to focus on, they fall like wheat before a combine. 1 Abrams can pound the sh*t out of those tonka trucks they use for artillary. Its a nation fighting with modern equipment versus countries fighting with WW2 tech.

If all these terrorist organizations can do is sit around and plot how to explode jacket bombs into crowds in marketplaces while people are shopping for groceries then they have too much time on their hands. As the saying goes "idle hands are the devil's playground".

Pakistan is going down.

Operation Odyssey Dawn....Manifest Destiny.


There isn't ANYTHING Russia,China can do to stop what's going down. Pakistan won't even last as long as Gaddafi did. The North Koreans will just be waited out as they eat each other to get thru the winter. Then in the spring when they are good and weak....North Korea will be taken out as well.

Thousands of trucks and tanks are likely being sent to the Philippines so they can throw together an Army,Navy, and Air Force to take on the Chinese in a multi-front war on them starting around May-2012.

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Pakistan is going down.

Maybe, but not before handing out weapons/tech that can cause some serious damage to US interests to the enemies of the US.

Pakistan can be ones "best friend" or "worst enemy".

Pakistan military OWNS Pakistan, not anyone else. The gov is only for show. The military rules, no one else, just as had Libya had been ruled by the beast and murderer of our fellow human brothers and sisters in Libya.

The evidences are clear on the paki military's collusion with Jihadists - animals which had sworn death to innocent men,women and children, and had proven their seriousness in carrying out their horrifying deeds upon unarmed civilians around the world.

The late Osama could not have hidden in Pakistan in luxury and security so easily for years, is one clear evidence of the paki military's collusion, amongst many more other cases.

Stand in the shoes of the paki military and you will see why they do what they did. Their biggest fear is India, and do anything to remain in power using every and any means to destablise the region and neighbours.

But the paki military are fools. Without economic success, they will lose power even more quickly today. And for economic prowess, it needs peace and openess of a civil society, and theology alone is not enough to ensure such success.

American taxpayers had aided the Pakis for years with money and asking nothing of resources in return, only that it stop the support of wild beasts whom had been terrorising mankind for a decade. The paki military had taken the american taxpayers for a ride time after time for a decade, even sacrificing their own people to dupe others that the military's hands are clean and obtain continue US funds to feed the pakistanis. The military hands are not clean, as many had realized.

Mama Clinton did the right thing today. Paki military must end their duplicity. There is no profit in giving wild beasts shelter while continuing operations against humanity. And should US stop aid, they will turn to China and Russia. Fools that the military are, our fellow human brothers an sisters in Pakistan will not accept the CCP's rapacious aid for resources in return. Worse the CCP are atheists and certainly will not sit will with muslims whom can and rather accept help from children of the Book.

May the paki military wake up, or it will only end up the Gaddafi way when the pakistanis do an arab spring. Only honest economic success can revolutions be averted, and more so when Jihadists are standing in the way to progress. We cannot change divine destiny, began since creation but we can still avert our fates. We cannot control the sun's painful glare, but we can find shelter and drink more water from the sun's effect.

May the paki military wake up and do what is right and necessary. Amnesty can be offered, but the murders must end. India are not hell bent on war, and would prefer economic success too,and that can only happen in an era of peace. We all do have common grounds to seek for the progress and evolution of our human race without killing one another, or allow wild beasts to destroy us all.....