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Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by sligtlyskeptical
The letter is one I saw back in 2008, another said they saw it in 2007. I look at it though as something to make you think, even though you realize it's fake.
nowhere in the letter though does it satate what the company makes or the wage his 12 employees are making.
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
reply to post by GeorgiaGirl
Just more lies used as an excuse not to hire. Unemployment tax is like 1-2% of the wage. We are talking like 25-50 cents an hour difference. The employer is not responsible for paying the 99 weeks unemployment. That comes from the fund they pay into while the person is working.
And it should be expensive to employ someone as you are signing up to pretty much care for that persons existence. People work to make a living and pay their bills. That is fact. If you can't afford to pay them a living wage then you shouldn't be employing them. By logic that is also a fact, but that doesn't stop people from arguing against it. If the only way you can obtain a living wage for yourself is to employ people at below a living wage then you shouldn't be in business in the first place.
www.house.leg.state.mn.us... Notice that the employer will lose either way...they can be taxed based on history of termination/layoffs, OR can reimburse the system directly for benefits. 99 weeks of benefits is too much to gamble with. So they don't hire.
All employers other than public employers and nonprofit employers pay unemployment taxes. These taxes are based on the employer's experiences with terminating and laying off employees who then collect benefits. Public employers and nonprofit employers, rather than paying taxes, can reimburse the system directly for whatever benefits their employees collect.
Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
reply to post by GeorgiaGirl
Just more lies used as an excuse not to hire. Unemployment tax is like 1-2% of the wage. We are talking like 25-50 cents an hour difference. The employer is not responsible for paying the 99 weeks unemployment. That comes from the fund they pay into while the person is working.
And it should be expensive to employ someone as you are signing up to pretty much care for that persons existence. People work to make a living and pay their bills. That is fact. If you can't afford to pay them a living wage then you shouldn't be employing them. By logic that is also a fact, but that doesn't stop people from arguing against it. If the only way you can obtain a living wage for yourself is to employ people at below a living wage then you shouldn't be in business in the first place.
So when my friend and I were together this weekend she was lying to me? We don't even live in the same state...why would she make up this lie? She is lying to me so she doesn't have to hire people?????
I guess you are right in one regard...because she and her husband don't want to "pretty much care for that person's existence", they have decided NOT to hire and are working themselves to death. The sad thing is that there are people who would probably appreciate the job...IF my friend's firm could establish the compensation without having to jump through all of the government's hoops. I'm confident they would be paying a living wage. It's the other costs that are prohibative.
As for the unemployment insurance, you are mistaken. She explained that if a worker ends up collecting the 99 weeks unemployment, they are REQUIRED to pay back to the government the amount paid out to the worker . Here is a source for you:www.house.leg.state.mn.us... Notice that the employer will lose either way...they can be taxed based on history of termination/layoffs, OR can reimburse the system directly for benefits. 99 weeks of benefits is too much to gamble with. So they don't hire.
All employers other than public employers and nonprofit employers pay unemployment taxes. These taxes are based on the employer's experiences with terminating and laying off employees who then collect benefits. Public employers and nonprofit employers, rather than paying taxes, can reimburse the system directly for whatever benefits their employees collect.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by MentalGiant
Sure, until the IRS finds out you have set hours for them to work. The IRS will classify them as an employee and you will owe all the way back to when they were hired, and that could very well put them under.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by MentalGiant
Sure, until the IRS finds out you have set hours for them to work. The IRS will classify them as an employee and you will owe all the way back to when they were hired, and that could very well put them under.
Originally posted by MentalGiant
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by MentalGiant
Sure, until the IRS finds out you have set hours for them to work. The IRS will classify them as an employee and you will owe all the way back to when they were hired, and that could very well put them under.
Are you retarded? Why would anyone set the hours of an independent contractor? Why would you hire someone as an independent contractor and treat them as an employee. That is NOT what you would do. Everytime I mention 1099, you start fantasing about how you will get in trouble for doing unethical illegal things....
Why are you obsessed with screwing someone over that does not deserve it? Why are you obsessed with lying about an independent contractor? Why do you keep stating getting in trouble for being deceitful?
Noone here is saying such things but you.... Ill leave you here, ...there is no hope for some.
Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
reply to post by MentalGiant
I'm sure they understand the law much better than you or I do (unless you are a lawyer yourself). I can also assure you they are not stupid. If they have determined that it is not worth it to hire someone, you can be assured it is not worth it.
The WHOLE point is that the government's policies are what is causing this unemployment crisis in America. Period. I can't see how anyone can logically argue otherwise.