Originally posted by TheMindWar
Must add this, your title is totally incorrect. I am from the UK and I certainly do jot think the declaration of independance is illegal. In fact the complete opposite is true. So when you say the "UK" thinks so, you are totally wrong, sorry.

The Power That Be dont like it because it stops them from having overall power in the US, if this goes then so does the fourth of july celebrations.

My god...this thread is...nevermind!

Don't judge a book by its cover, don't judge a thread by its title. Read the article and you will see that (the UK thinks so) is from a UK Law Aspect...

Of course the Declaration of Independence is illegal under British law. It only makes sense.

It would be like Alaska or Hawaii trying to declare independence from the US today. The feds would have a cow, and our legal system would show them 100 reasons why they can't do that. It's illegal. And it's treasonous. I think it's called a revolution.
Unfortunately, neither state would fare well in an armed conflict though, and would still fall back into US hands.

A good thread. S&F OP.

It's interesting to note though. Citizens of both the UK and the US still have our little national pride. And we'll get in a thread and dis on one another about superiority. But we won't come together and throw out the treasonous bastards that sit in the seats of power in both countries. What's wrong with this picture?

Originally posted by jrmcleod

Wasn't most of the US population at the time from a UK background (Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England) or a commonwealth country?

If so then they were subjects to the crown and should have been liable to pay their taxes to the crown...no?

What can "subjects" expect from a "crown"? What are they paying for? I don't know anyone that like to pay for nothing. It's happening again right now.

And the gov't, again, will say independence is illegal. And, again, the people won;t care what the gov't thinks.

"The UK thinks so," that's got to be one of the greatest generalisations i've read in a while. The UK is incapable of independant thought, it's made up of 60 million + individuals who all have their own opinions.

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
"The UK thinks so," that's got to be one of the greatest generalisations i've read in a while. The UK is incapable of independant thought, it's made up of 60 million + individuals who all have their own opinions.

OK title changed...

On a side note, did you actually read the article?

America never claimed the declaration of independence was legal under British law.

The declaration of independence is not a legal document but rather a declaration of independence.

At the time, it was illegal, treason, which is what started the American Revolution when the British invaded America.

The British lost that war, making the legality of America's independence a moot point.

If the British have a problem with this they could start another war.

The British ultimately took control over America through the financial system since they could not defeat them through warfare.

What a load of crap.

1: Colonizing, is what viruses do. Just because some nation has glory only through their virus-like behavior, doesn't make them cool, it makes them historically like a plague. Colonizers, are just as the name implies: Infectious viruses.

2: Lawyers (esquires) have nothing to do with America, though we are populated with them like fleas on a dog's back. Americans do not acknowledge titles, though yes, the authority does try to float them alot, but in the end, we need no knights or royal classes thinking they're better. No thanks, everyone know the BAR association is an anti-American body, and I look forward to the day when they are gone from US soil. Feel free to ask me what would take their place. It's called "truth and justice" which are mortal enemies of the lawyers class.

3: The best and most honorable "King" the sax/gotha/hapsburgs/windsors/whatnots ever produced was the guy who abdicated. What a true and great King he was, to set the crown down and just go be a normal man! Three cheers for the only good King these colonizers ever produced! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah! Here's to future abdications of silly monarchs!

4: Jefferson just stole his ideas from the Algonquin nations, who had peace among themselves. HENCE: No need for stupid Jacobin Kings to have adventures here, no need for silly French Kings to have adventures here, and certainly no need for horrid Papist inquisitors and their paid legions to have adventures here. It was criminal for them to assume titles over the original inhabitants of the US territories, and it is sheer insanity for them to equate themselves to "Spiritual Israel" as Ezra Stiles and his ilk have done. That religous scam has yet to be fully rolled back to the doorsteps of those who cast their Puritain/Hugenot/psuedo-Christian dregs and other religious wackjobs onto the ocean, and allowed them to drift onto American beaches.

5: There is one entity, Rothschild/Bauer banking occult clan, which rules the London-DC-Vatican triad of non-cities, which is the main enemy of America. It is there law-fetish non-humans who are wrecking the world, and who are behind the grossest violations of humanity, via the slave trades, and fomenting the WW2 events of Stalin (Jesuit) and Himmler (Jesuit). This group has already attacked the US in the past. I feel really bad for people in London who continue to support their evil masters. It will be tragic for them, if they do not "abdicate" like their one good King did. I believe Jesus himself, refused an unholy Kingship, he refused to accept Satan's crown. Think hard on that.

Originally posted by ReptileRipper

Originally posted by Skewed
Who cares what UK thinks in this case. We separated from them, it is what it is.
If UK has a problem with it then they can start another war to get us under their control.
They can get over it, legal or not, we are free from UK control.
Besides, illegal according to UK laws? So what. What are they going to do about it.

Nothing personal against UK, but.....

First Charters Of Virginia *cough* ..... America still belongs to the crown , theyre lying to Americans ...... its that simple.

Ya,

The Treaty of Paris had a mistake too.

The original spelling for the new country was:

"The UKnighted States of America"
I think Ben Franklin objected on grounds of public confusion.


I think the treaty favored Britain....

the King was still the "Prince" of the colonies?

something about all debts had to be paid?

and maybe some waterway rights?

We are still paying !!

WTF does this mean?

Will we be forced to pay taxes to the British crown again?

Who else wants in on the action?

Stand in line to tax the dumb Americans, they're so stupid they'll pay anyone who asks to be paid

the constitution is definitely treason.
Treason against a corrupt and tyrannical government.
Legal? well that depends on whether you were a tyrant or one of the oppressed.
Legality has nothing to do with right or wrong.
.. and has everything to do with who writes the laws.
Yup, it was illegal under England's tyrannical law.. but not under US law. The right to rise up is guaranteed to US. citizens.


And England tried to enforce their law... and see how it worked out for them?


Legal or not, treason or not, it was the right thing to do.
People were taxed to death..litterally.

in other words, this case has been to "trial"......England lost their case.

Originally posted by InformationAccount
WTF does this mean?

Will we be forced to pay taxes to the British crown again?

Who else wants in on the action?

Stand in line to tax the dumb Americans, they're so stupid they'll pay anyone who asks to be paid

edit on 20-10-2011 by InformationAccount because: (no reason given)

I thought we paid taxes back to Britain with Obama's bank stimulus?