posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 04:49 AM
How many of those countries are actually socialist or communist?
None. None of them are practicing socialism, nor communism.
They are labeled 'socialist' for political reasons, not because they are actually economically socialist, or communist.
Europe is not socialist either. National health care is not socialism. Hand-outs from the government is not socialism. Europe is more liberal than
the US, but it's still capitalist.
Socialism is the workers ownership of the means of production, created by workers in opposition to capitalism, the private ownership of the means of
Socialism requires no government as it is an economic system, and the basis of classical Anarchism. In the 1800's the left split between those who
supported state socialism, Marxists, and those that apposed the state system who called themselves Anarchists, Libertarians, Libertarian Socialists
etc. They were still socialists, they supported worker ownership and apposed private ownership. Anarchism, as in socialism, was based on the concept
that 'property is theft', from the writings of Proudhon.
A largely self-educated worker whose incendiary ideas were more influential than those of Karl Marx during his lifetime, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon's
social and economic ideas have been a source of inspiration and debate since 1840. Mikhail Bakunin proclaimed "Proudhon is the master of us all,"
while for Peter Kropotkin he laid "the foundations of anarchism."
Anarchism is stateless socialism, Mikhail Bakunin
The consistent anarchist, then, should be a socialist, but a socialist of a particular sort. He will not only oppose alienated and specialized
labor and look forward to the appropriation of capital by the whole body of workers, but he will also insist that this appropriation be direct, not
exercised by some elite force acting in the name of the proletariat. Noem Chomsky, In Daniel Guérin, Anarchism: From Theory to Practice, 1970
There is only one kind of socialism, socialism is socialism. There are many different ways to implement it, from state control, Marxism, to
Anarcho-Syndicalism, worker control of labour through trade unions.
edit on 10/20/2011 by ANOK because: typo