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Did Ron Paul predict OWS?

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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I have been talking to a lot of people including family, friends, co-workers, local Occupy protesters and relating threads on ATS about the OWS movement. One name that keeps coming up is Ron Paul. Some of these people don't necessarily agree with RP's politics, but they have paid attention to his comments regarding economic policy and what has been happening around the world.

A friend of mine sent me a link today in which RP states that the issues in Greece that caused an uprising could easily happen here in the US. I'd like to share it with you.

Now I know that he did not predict OWS specifically, but did he call this one? Even if you disagree with his policies, was RP right when he predicted just what we are seeing today?

Start at about 2:50 on this vid and pay attention. What do you think ATS? Should we have listened to RP?




posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Maybe Ron Paul is behind OWS maybe he is funding it and orchestrating it from behind the curtain...

Because I mean seriously why in the world would the american people have any reason to stand up for themselves? Its not like we are being raped by banks and government on a daily basis right?

Anyone with half a brain could tell you this has been coming for a while now, people aren't stupid... Even the sheep are waking up finally...only because its affecting them as well as the rest of us...but its never to late to wake up and point out the problems so they can be fixed...

lets hope someone actually fixes them....good luck with that part



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Maybe Ron Paul is behind OWS maybe he is funding it and orchestrating it from behind the curtain...

I suppose it's a possibility, but I doubt it. If you would listen to some of our fellow members this is an complete impossibility. What is that? Because they believe the OWS movement is part of the socialist takeover by communist Nazi unions!

Yes, I agree that many of us knew it would eventually come, but was RP the only one saying this other than a few economists?
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by dc4lifeskater
 




Maybe Ron Paul is behind OWS maybe he is funding it and orchestrating it from behind the curtain...

I suppose it's a possibility, but I doubt it. If you would listen to some of or fellow members this is an complete impossibility. What is that? Because they believe the OWS movement is part of the socialist takeover by communist Nazi unions!

Yes, I agree that many of us knew it would eventually come, but was RP the only one saying this other than a few economists?


Oh no, not the nazi unions.
People are grasping at straws to try and discredit the movement, got it happening here. I put people in their place that get flippant with me too. "Go get a job hippy" get met with "I have one, and its a good one, doesn't mean i can't see the problems we face".

Ah sheeple
, Canada has a while to go before it gathers steam, most canadians are too laid back. Or dont care. either, or



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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put people in their place that get flippant with me too. "Go get a job hippy" get met with "I have one, and its a good one, doesn't mean i can't see the problems we face".

So would you say that politics, even on ATS, causes some people to reject the obvious that is right in front of our face?

I think so.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Honestly I couldn't see Ron Paul wanting anything to do with OWS other then to collect votes, but did anybody ask him?



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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I haven't seen him try to exploit OWS for any votes at all. He has been asked and simply said that this was expected and made it clear that people should be mad.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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People are mad. But OWS exploits the problem, they magnify it and are now part of the problem.

Many already were, but some put themselves their out of their own ignorance.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
Maybe Ron Paul is behind OWS maybe he is funding it and orchestrating it from behind the curtain...

Because I mean seriously why in the world would the american people have any reason to stand up for themselves? Its not like we are being raped by banks and government on a daily basis right?

Anyone with half a brain could tell you this has been coming for a while now, people aren't stupid... Even the sheep are waking up finally...only because its affecting them as well as the rest of us...but its never to late to wake up and point out the problems so they can be fixed...

lets hope someone actually fixes them....good luck with that part


no Ron Paul is not behind OWS, but George Soros is, along with the Obama/Democrat DSA/Union/OFA/ACORN machine. Ron Paul is a free market Libertarian, not a Socialist.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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How does OWS exploit the problem, and how is that just because people voice their opinion they are considered mad?

I find that somewhat insulting!



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Acorn? Are you serious?

Of all the ways to discredit this movement you have to invoke Soros and Acorn?

Ok, I have head it all!



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Have you?

They are supported by Labor Unions, Communists, Socialists, Nazi's, Democrats.

Who are you fooling?

Yourself obviously.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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OWS have in no way supported unions, Obama...etc. We have been through this on another thread already. Anyone can support OWS, but the people are remaining independent.

Your assertion is disingenuous and misleading. You are trying to tie this movement unfairly to other groups for political purposes and it is completely wrong!



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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Acorn? Are you serious?

Of all the ways to discredit this movement you have to invoke Soros and Acorn?

Ok, I have head it all!


Apparently you haven't. Soros funds Tides, Tides funds adbusters. This has the Obama/Soros fingerprint all over it. Also, if you would be honest, you would have observed that Obama and Pelosi and Soros all are supportive of the OWS, while dismissive of the Tea Party. How much more obvious do you want it to be?



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Independent of what? Intelligence?

OWS feeds on capitalism the host and then badmouths it. Capitalism is the host and OWS is the virus.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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OWS have in no way supported unions, Obama...etc. We have been through this on another thread already. Anyone can support OWS, but the people are remaining independent.

Your assertion is disingenuous and misleading. You are trying to tie this movement unfairly to other groups for political purposes and it is completely wrong!


The Unions have come out in support of OWS with feet on the ground I might add. Also so have CPUSA, MoveOn, The nazi party. And the Working Family Party have been there since the start.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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reply to post by thehoneycomb
 

You both have passed over my last statement. OWS has not supported these groups at all. No way, shape or form.

As I said in another thread, if NAMBLA supported the Republican party does that mean the Republicans subscribe to disgusting acts towards children?

Both of your are asserting something that is disingenuous and false. Before you regurgitate convenient talking points, address that facts first.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Is this not embarrassing for you?

Do we have to go over this again or will you keep calling yourself awake even though you are perfectly asleep at the wheel?

It's ok to admit when you are wrong. We will not hold a grudge against you.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 
reply to post by thehoneycomb
 

You both have passed over my last statement. OWS has not supported these groups at all. No way, shape or form.

As I said in another thread, if NAMBLA supported the Republican party does that mean the Republicans subscribe to disgusting acts towards children?

Both of your are asserting something that is disingenuous and false. Before you regurgitate convenient talking points, address that facts first.


We have said that these groups support OWS, not that OWS supports them, but it's likely a two way street, given the scenario and the types of statements people at the NY protest have said about wanting to dump Capitalism, about wanting to adopt socialism, the demands they have made(which mostly are remarkably similar to Democrat Party platform) .
I have yet to see anyone on Youtube on the ground at OWS denounce the communist groups or make any statements suggesting they do not want the Democrats and/or the communist party to represent them.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 
reply to post by thehoneycomb
 

You both have passed over my last statement. OWS has not supported these groups at all. No way, shape or form.

As I said in another thread, if NAMBLA supported the Republican party does that mean the Republicans subscribe to disgusting acts towards children?

Both of your are asserting something that is disingenuous and false. Before you regurgitate convenient talking points, address that facts first.



NAMBLA does not and will not support the Republican Party unless the Republican Party becomes the Democrat Party.

Edit: I am actually searching for articles to see if there really is any connection or if this is just some kind of Democratic smear scheme, as Obama was caught appointing Kevin jennings as School Safety czar. As a general rule, I doubt most Republicans embrace NAMBLA or anything like it, however, that may not stop individual NAMBLA members from donating to the party. I am not certain if individuals have to disclose their membership in such an organization to donate to a political party.
I did find one reference to Bohemian grove and that is believable, as we know Boho Grove is Illuminatiesque. I also believe this is one way the Illuminati catch politicans in their net of intrigue and control, blackmailing once they seduce them with women and children.
The Cathy O'brien case opened up the conspiracy theory of MKULTRA kidnappings and sex schemes.
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