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posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by ColAngus
What are your ideas? What is [your] plan?

I read what you posted, and no need to get snippy with the "what part of this did you not understand" comment.

YOU are making a big stink about this, and rightfully so I concede, but are you just keeping the Batsignal lit for someone to swoop in and figure it all out for you, or do you have any concrete ideas to offer?



Greetings:

Our most sincere apologies if you took what we wrote as snippy... we are here merely attempting to share vital information that we think may save lives - not here to play silly word games and try to derail the thread with inane, tired old COINTELPRO tactics from the '60's.

BTW, it didn't work then, either.

If you have an idea as to how help in this life-saving effort - let's hear it - as we have asked for reader feedback, so as to develop a collective response plan and put said plan into action.


YOU are making a big stink about this...

Guilty as charged... and have been since 3/11.

[color=orane]We are sick and tired of the blatant attempts of the MSM (and others) to misrepresent reality in order to deliberately distort viewer and listener perceptions.

The truth must be told and we are merely sharing what is out there... but that is not enough, is it, if we catch your drift?

You, ColAngus, are perhaps absolutely right.


...or do you have any concrete ideas to offer?

Thank you for noticing and we really do appreciate you taking the time to address the situation - albeit in a somewhat convoluted way - IMHO.


...and rightfully so I concede...

This statement is the reason you have our attention, even though you started out appearing somewhat as a troll, IMHO, just here to waste bandwidth and divert attention from the true issue - life through informed action or death by radiation apathy.

You have succeeded in changing our mind about your trollness and your remarks (when analyzed without blinders) actually galvanized us to put up or shut up... and we are now working on the appropriate response.


...are you just keeping the Batsignal lit for someone to swoop in and figure it all out for you...

Thank you for noticing that the Batsignal is lit, and has been since 3/11.

Most people seem to not notice - or not care...


Originally posted by thorfourwinds
Greetings:

Meanwhile, back to the Fukushima World-Killer Nuke Meltdowns and the [color=limegreen]continuing radiation poising of our land, food and children - 24/7/365.

zorgon, what is your take on this?

Well, I spent three weeks following that Fukushima story doggedly... then in the end I found out three things...

1) Except for a handful of people and those that live in the area... NO ONE CARES...

2) We are still here... 1000's of nuke tests (especially near my home town) medical radiation, space radiation, CME's, cell tower radiation, microwave radiation... etc etc.. and we are STILL HERE.. and world population is increasing exponentially

3) Radiation is good for you

Greetings:

Thank you for your insightful and timely response.

1) We have been attempting to sound the alarm in the many nuke-related threads in our signature, and have come to the same conclusion: NO ONE CARES...

However, having spent the last six weeks on the road in the Hurricane Irene-ravaged areas of North Carolina, we were amazed - no, dumfounded - that [color=limegreen]NOT ONE PERSON we spoke with (including fellow First Responder Volunteer Firepersons) had any clue about Fukushima 24/7/365.

The Captain of the local VFD said that ‘... there is no problem, or the USGOV/EPA would alert us, and it would be on television, right? (!???!)

Revised Conclusion:
[color=orane]We, the people have been denied the basic information to make informed decisions as to how best "handle" the radiation poisoning nightmare.
...
As we have been attempting to bring to light for over six months (!), there exists a world-wide conspiracy in the MSM to deprive the general populace of the facts regarding the radioactive life-altering consequences of the multiple melt-throughs of the nuclear reactors at Fukushima-Daiichi.

Please listen up, people.

Your life and the lives of your loved ones may very well depend on your access to and use thereof of potentially life-saving information being kept from you by the MSM/EPA/NOAA/DHS/CDC/FDA/NRC and, of course, TEPCO/JAPGOV/USGOV and many others.
(...)

To be continued...

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posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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Greetings:

RADIATION WATCH AMERICA 2011




The total number of days between Friday, March 11th, 2011 and Saturday, October 29th, 2011 is 232 days.

[color=Limegreen]The radiation poisoning of our people, food and land has continued unabated - 24/7/365[color=limegreen]
- for 7 months, 18 days.

• 20,044,800 seconds
• 334,080 minutes
• 5,568 hours
• 33 + weeks


Now, let’s see. Just what were those becquerels-per-hour releases that TEPCO admitted to from the Fukushima disaster/fiasco multiple melt-throughs?

Oh yeah, like that information is going to do us a lot of good.

How about, “How do we shut the damn things off?

Toss-Up Question:
Will this weekend’s record-breaking “historic” snowstorm “wash” radiation from the air similar to the way rain does (and did in March?

Image via Wikipedia

Iodine-131 found in rain in Pennsylvania.



[color=limegreen]The Environmental Protection Agency yesterday reported finding elevated levels of iodine-131, a product of nuclear fission, in rainwater in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. The levels exceed the maximum contaminant level (MCL) permitted in drinking water, but EPA continues to assure the public there is no need for alarm:
(..)

28 March 2011
Radioactive Iodine-131 in Pennsylvania rainwater sample is 3300% above federal drinking water standard



Governor Corbett Says Public Water Supply Testing Finds No Risk to Public From Radioactivity Found in Rainwater

(...)

'Rainwater is not typically directly consumed,' Corbett said. 'However, people might get alarmed by making what would be an inappropriate connection from rainwater to drinking water.


By testing the drinking water, we can assure people that the water is safe.' …

28 March 2011
EPA: Expect More Radiation in Rainwater

5 April 2011
Cumulative Low-Level Doses of Radiation Can Cause Big Problems

This could be a very interesting question to be answered for you folks near Harrisburg, PA.

Anyone out there in PA with a radiation detector who wants to share their readings from this event?

Here is one of the many avenues being undertaken at this moment by our friend in New Zealand, GhostR1der

When Oppenheimer saw the first nuclear explosion, he understood the magnitude of this new and awful kind of energy.

Now, the raw power of nature meets our technical arrogance and is destroying Japan in the form of earthquakes, tsunami and the unleashing of terrifying quantities of radiation.

It hardly bears thinking about.

But we must think about it and act upon it.

Perhaps we can borrow from some some of these ideas from the International Physicians For the Prevention of Nuclear War.


Nuclear energy is not good or bad, in my view.

What I condemn is the human arrogance and ignorance that leads us to think that we can control a force as massive and potentially destructive as this, or that the risks inherent in harnessing it as a source of electricity are calculable.

Chernobyl showed us how humans make mistakes.

Fukushima has made it abundantly clear that we are not in control, and that we are pitiful in the face of nature’s ability to determine our fate.

The disaster that hit Japan was bad enough, but did we need to compound it by adding our own stupidity to the equation by building nuclear reactors on fault lines?
Xanthe Hall
International Physicians For the Prevention of Nuclear War

Perhaps this really is not about reinventing the wheel, but merely providing a frame and axle to harness the inertia that already exists ...

This is how these concerned doctors did it in Germany... a lesson to be learned here?


Meanwhile the other doctors were ready to take to the streets.

Equipped with banners, balloons, and “nuclear“ umbrellas, we organised a flashmob in the centre of Frankfurt. ...

To be continued...

[color=limegreen]Will this insanity ever end?


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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Greetings:

Not that we would ever say, "we told you so," but ...

6 November 2011
Expert on Fukushima radiation in US: [color=3BB9FF]‘We know its going to impact public health’


• It’s more a matter of something happened that we didn’t want to happen.

• We know its going to impact public health.

[color=Cyan]• There’s not a whole lot you can do about it.

• Once you let the horse out of the barn, hell, the horse took the barn door with it.

• We’re stuck, this is an accident that should have been prevented. It’s hard to respond to it.



And now, for something completely different:

Japan TV host diagnosed with acute lymphocytic leukemia —
Had been eating Fukushima produce on show


You just can't make this stuff up folks...

And from April, a supercilious post that really attracted our attention to the apparent ignorance and insensitivity that blocks the sheeple's reality of [color=8AFB17]the true horror of the Fukushima multiple melt-through nuclear disaster/fiasco spewing life-altering radiation 24/7/365 [color=8AFB17]with no end or solution in sight.


[color=Salmon]And so what, the Japanese will have a few babies born limbless or with blotchy skin,
they will adapt to their environment.


You're joking, right?

My wife is Japanese, my in-laws are Japanese, and many of the surviving in-laws did time in Tehachapi and we do not appreciate your attempt at levity or derailment.

If you do not think anything is wrong, you eat the yellow snow and drink the milk.


[color=Salmon]Now just to clear the air, i do not like what is going on over there but we cannot help the situation playing keyboard tag with the mongering of fear.


Speak for yourself.

"Playing keyboard tag," as you call it, just might invigorate enough concerned citizens to get up off their lazy butts, turn off American Idol, Dancing With the Stars and Cupcake Wars and
question authority.

We certainly hope so. We are. OPERATION SURVIVAL is a working title for a project in bloom and a natural outgrowth of our Alliance roots. Stay tuned and you heard it here first.

As you can plainly see, dear reader, there is a lot of (re)education to be done to turn the tide in favor of life.

Meanwhile, the goalposts keep getting moved and acceptable collateral damage limits are steadily increased.

25 August 2011
Japan raising radiation limit to 20 millisieverts/year leads to 160,000 lifetime cancers per million people


In April, the Japanese government raised its maximum limit for children from one to 20 millisieverts per year, a level that leads to 2,270 cancers annually per million people (or 160,000 lifetime cancers per million), according to data in a landmark 2006 U.S. National Academy of Sciences report on radiation cancer risk.

A massive outcry later forced the government to reverse the move.

[color=8AFB17]About a fifth of the 1,600 schools in Fukushima prefecture were exposed to at least 20 milliseiverts of radiation this year, according to a Bloomberg story in July. [...]

The children already have a year's worth of radiation in 4 months at the 20 millisieverts per year!



Operation Survival

(How about the following for starters? (this is a work in progress - any input would be sincerely appreciated...)

We are a grassroots peace and environmental organization dedicated to sharing new ideas and vital information necessary for survival in this post 3/11 age.

We support converting our economy to safely fulfill human needs, creating a cleaner, safer and more humane world while working to make the connections between peace, social justice and environmental responsibility.


We think this foto says it all... these are the real OWS'ers (IMHO) and us 30 years ago at Diablo...they should have left sleeping dogs lie... will you join us?



We are not alone:

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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Japan tsunami debris could reach B.C. in days: oceanographer
Nov 10, 2011 – 9:53 AM ET

news.nationalpost.com...


VICTORIA — The largest items swept out to sea following the Japanese tsunami in March could arrive on the B.C. coastline within days, oceanographer Curt Ebbesmeyer predicted on Wednesday.

The main part of the 20-million-tonne debris field, equivalent in size to the state of California, isn’t expected until about 2014, but houses, fishboats and even small freighters could already be close to Canadian shores, Mr. Ebbesmeyer said.
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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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• There’s not a whole lot you can do about it.


Unfortunately, I'm afraid this is the reality of the situation. Of course we can do many things to prevent this event from re-occurring at other facilities (which of course will not happen), I fear there is nothing that can be done about Fukushima and containing/corralling the damage and effects. At least no one has come up with a solid plan or idea yet.
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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Greetings:

Perhaps an update/recap on this impending environmental crisis is due.

Let's review some MSM coverage in chronological order.

8 April 2011
Japanese tsunami debris to reach West Coast in 2014

...According to modelling by Nikolai Maximenko and Jan Hafner at the International Pacific Research Center at the University of Hawaii, the trash could reach [color=Cyan]Hawaii's main island by March 2013, before eventually [color=Cyan]washing ashore on the West Coast in 2014...



11 April 2011
Japan tsunami debris headed towards U.S...

...The huge mass of an ocean debris field from the tsunami in Japan is headed towards the West Coast and Hawaii. The ruins of houses, cars, trees along with human remains are just some of the things contained in this floating island.

When the debris field hits the U.S. shores, some very disturbing and grisly findings could be among the garbage that floats in, according to NPR.





Vancouver News reports that [color=Chartreuse]a floating island, of bodies and debris is causing chaos in Pacific shipping lanes.

This island is approximately [color=Salmon]70 miles long and just one of the many islands of floating debris in the Pacific right now headed toward the US coast.





The debris mass, which appears as an island from the air, contains cars, trucks, tractors,
boats and entire houses floating in the current heading toward the U.S. and Canada, according to ABC News.

Over 200,000 buildings were washed away by the tsunami with their debris included in this field of garbage floating towards the U.S. and Canada.




30 June 2011
Floating debris washed out to sea from the Japanese tsunami is expected to reach Hawaii's albatross islands next year

The effects of this debris on the albatross populations of the North Pacific will only become known in time.

 Already, they are at risk from ingesting small floating plastic items (such as cigarette lighters, toothbrushes and toy soldiers) which they mistake for food. 

These items are then regurgitated to their chicks, causing deaths among Laysan Phoebastria immutabilis and Black-footed P. nigripes Albatrosses at such breeding sites as Kure and Midway Atolls (click here).



15 October 2011
Floating Japanese Boat Picked Up near Midway Islands

...The boat of about six meters long was found among an array of debris such as home appliances about 3,200 kilometers away from Japan on Sept. 22, about six months after the disaster, according to the University of Hawaii's International Pacific Research Center.





The boat, picked up by a Russian ship while in training, had a Japanese word reading Fukushima written on its body, according to the research center.

[color=FDD017]The boat had a "normal" radiation level, posing no imminent threat to human health, according to the research center.

The debris is expected to reach the shore of Hawaiian islands as early as January.




24 October 2011
Floating Island of Debris Headed to the West Coast

March 11, 2011
Tsunami waves crash over Japan, wiping out entire communities, sweeping everything that isn't nailed down out to sea: 200,000 houses, cars, boats, refrigerators, furniture.

You name it.

And this is where it all is today...

Giant fields of floating debris in the middle of the Pacific Ocean...

To be continued...


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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24 October 2011
Floating Island of Debris Headed to the West Coast

March 11th 2011: Tsunami waves crash over Japan, wiping out entire communities, sweeping everything that isn't nailed down out to sea. 200,000 houses, cars, boats, refrigerators, furniture.

You name it.

And this is where it all is today...

[color=FDD017]Giant fields of floating debris in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

U.S. Navy ships have had to steer around the islands of garbage, and now the discovery that it's moving faster than scientists had expected.

They now project some of it will hit the Midway Islands by January.

Currents would sweep it to the [color=Cyan]U.S. west coast in 2013, and back to the main Hawaiian islands in 2014 and 2015...



25 October 2011
Tsunami Debris Floating Fast Toward Hawaii : Discovery News

...“Different objects are moving at different speeds. Lighter objects are positioned higher in the water and are more influenced by wind,” Hafner said. “Our model is more suitable for heavy objects.”

A chunk of Styrofoam sits so high above the water, it acts as a sail and is whisked along by the wind, whereas a piece of wooden furniture is only moved by the ocean currents.

The new estimate is that lighter objects like Styrofoam will surf onto Midway's beaches this coming winter. Japanese debris won't hit [color=Cyan]Hawaii until early 2013, a few months earlier than expected.

The West Coast still probably won't see debris until [color=FDD017]approximately five years after the tsunami originally struck...



4 November 2011
SPECIAL REPORT: Tsunami Trash: Adrift to Hawaii - Hawaii News ...


More than [color=Chartreuse]20 million tons of trash was deposited into the Pacific Ocean last March when a tsunami ravaged coastal areas around Japan, a mind-boggling amount considering that's around ten times the amount that usually winds up in the Pacific each year.

Scientists believe some of that trash is floating towards the Hawaiian Islands, and concern for Hawaii's environment and our maritime industry is growing...




"Does it make sense to go out and get it and handle it at sea?

People are asking, industry folks are asking.

Or is it like some folks have said, and just wait until it hits us."

Intensifying the problem is the fact that this is just the beginning of this story.

Maximenko believes the tsunami trash will hit us more than once...

22 November 2011
Tsunami Debris Could Hit Mid-Pacific Island Soon

...The researchers say it is a common misconception that the debris is in a compact area, which would make it easy to track via satellites in space or other monitoring equipment.

Instead, oceanographers estimate the debris field is approximately [color=Cyan]3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) long and 1,800 kilometers (1,100 miles) wide.



Officials of agencies responsible for the Pacific Ocean environment say they are still grappling with how to formulate mitigation plans after learning some of the mess could begin accumulating on [color=Chartreuse]west-facing beaches of the Hawaiian islands as soon as March, 2012...

'This influx of tsunami debris, it's hard to tell right now exactly the beginning and the end.

But based on our kind of statistical predictions [color=FDD017]we expect to see the tsunami debris for less than one year from about September, 2013 on the West Coast,' Hafner said...


Marine debris on the Hawaiian coast (Image Credit: NOAA)

May we pose this question?

Are we going to sit idly by and wait until these debris islands invade the Hawaiian Islands and then the West Coast of North America all the way from San Diego to Vancouver, B.C.?

Hell, no!

Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead!

To be continued...



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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Are we going to wait until these debris islands invade the Hawaiian Islands and then the West Coast of North America all the way from San Diego to Vancouver, B.C.?

Or, are there any ideas to meet this challenge on the high seas before possible irreparable damage is done to the fragile eco-culture that now flourishes on the West Coast of America?

We thinks it was perhaps a few pages back where we suggested a floating materials recycling facility (MRF). Replace the dump truck with a few purpose-fitted tugboats (that towed the MRF-on-a-barge to American Resource Island One), pull up alongside the resource debris island, and go to work.


Here's a MRF for the recycling of domestic waste.

Materials recovery facility - Wikipedia

Or something like this:


The Materials Recovery Facility uses single stream technology to automatically sort the paper, plastic, cans and glass collected at curbside in San José.



1. As incoming material moves along a conveyer belt, workers pull out large items, cardboard and plastic bags and toss them into bins. Unusable trash is thrown away.

2. The recyclables move into a double-deck screening machine that separates newspapers, mixed paper and containers into separate streams. Material bounces over rows of square wheels spinning 1,000 times per minute. Blasts of air dislodge cans and bottles from newspapers. Gaps between rollers allow smaller items to fall onto conveyer belts.

3. Workers again pull out any trash and discard it.

4. Next is the trommel-mag - a large, rotating tube with small holes in the sides and an electromagnet at one end. Small items such as bottle caps fall through holes. The electromagnet snags tin cans. Then it's on to the air classifier, where a powerful fan blows lightweight aluminum and plastic onto one conveyer, and heavier glass falls onto another. Workers sort glass and plastics.

5. An electromagnetic device diverts aluminum cans into a storage bin.

Garbage & Recycling - Materials Recovery Facility (MRF

Or even just a few balers for plastic and process the bales back on the mainland.





Let's suppose you can get $0.30/Lbs for Scrap Plastic.

A 10” cylinder baler would produce at the minimum 1,400 lb. bales of LDPE @ $420/bale; 1,000 bales = $420,000.



and probably 1,000+ lbs. bales of HDPE; @ $300/bale; 1,000 bales = $300,000.

2,000 mixed bales = approximately three-quarters of a million dollars.

One would be willing to bet that there are some very big players thinking about this with that kind of money on the table.

Wonder what the legal aspect of a venture of this type would be.

Can one just "claim" all or part of a debris island?

Do the laws of the high seas apply and it can be claimed as salvage?

Can one even find it?




How big is your transport ship?


How many bales fit in a container?

Something... anything pro-active.

How about a team of like-minded individuals to look into this as an opportunity to provide a much-needed service that should actually be more than self-sustaining?

After all, we start with (free) resources being delivered closer to our shores everyday.

By natural selection, won’t these islands will have “organized” themselves into like-masses,
if you will?

Please add your ideas here in this thread so that others may see the light and help to implement [color=Chartreuse]THE PLAN TO SAVE AMERICA FROM FUKUSHIMA (again).






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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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oops, not yet
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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Intersting discussion. Id forgotten about that stuff. And yes it is highly radiated, even the stuff that came out with the first tsunami waves and far removed from Fukushima. It was radiated by the atmospheric plumes that emitted continuously since march 12th and that researchers believe carried 90% of Fukushima's radiation away from Japan and over the Pacific Ocean. The path that these plumes followed mirrored the path of the current dispersion patterns that the debris is taking east into the Pacific. This debris in fact could be the most radiated debris on the planet right now. Picture the plume that came out of Fukushima on March 18th and 19th. It was a massive surge that dispersed with the winds directly over the top of the debris fields heading east from the tsunami. And it was raining lightly at the time. Much of this plume dispersed on top of that debris field. How much stuck we will probably never know.

The debris field is simulated to be the size of California. Its headed straight for the British Columbia sized Garbage Patch. Will one stop the other, side swipe, miss completely, or push both towards the west coast. No one knows.

beachcombersalert.blogspot.com...


OSCURS (Ocean Surface CURrent Simulator) computations showed the locations of the debris field as of October 31, 2011.

OSCURS, as well as independent simulations from the University of Hawaii, showed the debris field stretched over an area the size of the state of California. Winds and currents had pushed the leading edge of the debris field, the flotsam closest to America, half way across the Pacific to a position north of Hawaii.




However, all of this debris has to first make it past America's frontline defense for this type of invasion, our Garbage Patch. It is more massive than the debris field that is approaching, and is locked in position it seems. From iprc.soest.hawaii.edu...



The two regions where most drifters collect or converge are in the eastern North and South Pacific. In the North Pacific this place lies between Hawai‘i and California and has been recently identified as the location of the Great Floating Garbage Patch, a huge cluster of partly defragmented plastic and ghost nets and other flotsam endangering marine life.





posted on Jan, 1 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Greetings z:

What is the scary part about this approaching disaster of immense proportions, is that there appears to be no government acknowledgement of the situation.

Are we truly going to wait until the beaches are befouled with radioactive tsunami debris?

We sincerely hope not and will keep this forum updated.

Also, it looks as though 2012 will be the year of the food shortages worldwide, partially due to the Fukushima radiation.

We are working on an update and will post soon.

Stay tuned and in the meantime, please join us on any of our signature threads.

RADIATION WATCH 2011



[color=Cyan]The total number of days between Friday, March 11, 2011 and Saturday, December 31, 2011 is 295 days.

[color=FDD017]The radiation poisoning of we, the people, our children, pets, food, water and our land
has continued unabated - 24/7/365
[color=Chartreuse]
- for 8 months, 29 days ... which is:

• 25,488,000 seconds
• 424,800 minutes
• 7,080 hours
• 42 weeks (rounded down)


One again, are we any closer to a solution to the Fukushima multiple melt-throughs disaster/fiasco spewing life-altering clouds of radiation 24/7/365






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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by ColAngus

• There’s not a whole lot you can do about it.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid this is the reality of the situation.
Of course, we can do many things to prevent this event from re-occurring at other facilities (which of course will not happen).

I fear there is nothing that can be done about Fukushima and containing/corralling the damage and effects.
At least no one has come up with a solid plan or idea yet.


What are your ideas? What is [your] plan?

I read what you posted, and no need to get snippy with the "what part of this did you not understand" comment.

YOU are making a big stink about this, and rightfully so I concede, but are you just keeping the Batsignal lit for someone to swoop in and figure it all out for you, or do you have any concrete ideas to offer?


Greetings:

Fair question, and thank you for your time, consideration, and most important to us, your participation.

Your eloquent posts have actually spurred us out of almost-slumberous lethargy (read: a well-deserved rest) and Monday-morning quarterbacking the ongoing Fukushima nightmare disaster fiasco and forced a rethinking of what "action" might mean and what action could be taken - right now, by we, the people - to make a difference.

Since 3/11/ we have attempted to learn everything we can absorb about Nukushima, wind currents, radioactive nuclear waste disposal, neutron beams, U.S. reactor safety challenges, Japan tsunami debris field tracking, bioaccumulation, ionizing radiation, dosimeters issued to children and all data dumped, the massive media complicity in perhaps, the mother of all cover-ups, as the radiation that has blanketed the world since 3/11 spares no one, especially the unborn, pregnant mothers, young children and the old, sick and otherwise vulnerable populace, abandoned by an uncaring, complicit JAPGOV.

Here is a short video highlighting the crisis at Fukushima and exposing the "unspeakable" realities of the Japanese catastrophe in this 60 Minutes program Sunday night during which leading nuclear scientist Dr. Michio Kaku said [color=Cyan]radiation from Fukushima will impact of all of humanity. The nuclear energy power industry's violation of the right to health is obviously apparent.

Fukushima Now Radiating Everyone: 'Unspeakable Reality is that radiation
will impact all of humanity'




And for the ultimate set-up for what you are about to experience in response to your query... hang in there, please bear with us a tad longer - it may very well be worth it




As you were so kind to notice, we have been trumpeting the fact that the corporate media in the West is downplaying and basically ignoring the threat posed to mankind by the multiple melt-throughs at Nukushima, if not blatantly engaging in outright obfuscation by design.

On the one hand, the EPA tells us Cesium-137 is appearing in milk and water around America, while on the other telling us not to worry.

The EPA said in March that “while they were above the historical and background norm, the levels weren’t considered harmful to human health.”

This is the same agency sounds the alarm about radioactivity in cigarette smoke while minimizing the risk from an out-of-control nuclear plant that continues to spew deadly radioactivity on an hourly basis 24/7/365 continuously and with no solution nor end in sight.

Something is seriously wrong when a supposedly-free media and theoretically responsible-to-the-people (?) caring government agencies in the U.S. downplay or completely ignore the threat.

So what can we do?

We can dream about ambitious possibilities and believe in positive solutions.

We can envision concerned citizens across the world coming together for a fun-filled learning experience and unite all anti-nuclear organizations to speak in a single voice:
No Nukes!

We can conceptualize an idea: how about LIVE EARTH AID? ... or working title -
Earth Aid™.


[color=FDD017]Earth Aid™ is dedicated to the creation of an interactive world-wide multi-media event
to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions associated with nuclear energy.



We can say that we now have a raison d'être.

How's that for a new beginning?

BTW, where, oh where did you obtain that avatar?

We need a good-looking one like that!

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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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Forgive me for just shooting this out there...

I scanned the posts quickly and may've missed any mention of places on Google Earth being blacked-out...

Eastern Island, Midway Islands, United States Minor Outlying Islands
Latitude: 28.209396 | 28 12.563782 N | N28 12 33
Longitude: -177.330902 | 177 19.854126 W | W177 19 51

The pixellated/shaded has been there to the ESE direction a long time. I didn't look until after the tsunami occurred. I think I have some screengrabs...



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by loveguy
Forgive me for just shooting this out there...

I scanned the posts quickly and may've missed any mention of places on Google Earth being blacked-out...

Eastern Island, Midway Islands, United States Minor Outlying Islands
Latitude: 28.209396 | 28 12.563782 N | N28 12 33
Longitude: -177.330902 | 177 19.854126 W | W177 19 51

The pixellated/shaded has been there to the ESE direction a long time. I didn't look until after the tsunami occurred. I think I have some screengrabs...

Greetings:

Yo loveguy!

Thank you for your time, consideration and participation. Nice to see you in here.

For your consideration:

The Nukes Daily


If a country wants to keep a nuclear bomb test secret, it’ll probably do it deep underground. But even if you bury the bomb, some clues will reach the surface. So says a study in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. [P. Vincent et al., "Anomalous transient uplift observed at the Lop Nor, China nuclear test site using satellite radar interferometry timeseries analysis,"

Scientists analyzed radar satellite data of a spot in western China, where three nukes were detonated underground in the ‘90s. And they found that after the blasts, [color=Chartreuse]the land above the test chambers gradually swelled one inch higher in elevation...


And these guys can’t find a radioactive debris island the size of Texas?

What could possibly be the reason to not take a pro-active stance and attempt to deal with this stuff before it comes ashore in Malibu?

Not that anyone has to worry, the same scientists have told us it won’t be here until next year, according to their calculations.

Scientists that probably do not have beach-front homes.

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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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I'll be here next to the water in SW Oregon with my camera, metal detector, haz-mat suit and I can't budget for a dosimeter so...

In terms of retrieving their debris from the ocean; they have extensive experience in whaling don't they?
Get to it with nets and harpoons!

Sadly
I lack that experience myself...



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by loveguy
I'll be here next to the water in SW Oregon with my camera, metal detector, haz-mat suit and I can't budget for a dosimeter so...

In terms of retrieving their debris from the ocean; they have extensive experience in whaling don't they?
Get to it with nets and harpoons!

Sadly
I lack that experience myself...


Greetings:

Your questions may be answered here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please stay away from that debris crap until you're absolutely sure you are safe...no dead heros needed here, but do favor us with pics, or 'it didn't happen.'

When we wore a younger man's clothes, we spent some quite enjoyable times in Newport, 'schrooming.

Please keep us informed and, BTW, what are the readings there after wiping the windscreen after a rain?

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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by thorfourwinds

Originally posted by loveguy
I'll be here next to the water in SW Oregon with my camera, metal detector, haz-mat suit and I can't budget for a dosimeter so...

In terms of retrieving their debris from the ocean; they have extensive experience in whaling don't they?
Get to it with nets and harpoons!

Sadly
I lack that experience myself...


Please tay away from that crap until you're absolutely sure you are safe...no dead heros needed here, but do favor us with pics, or it didn't happen.

When we wore a younger man's clothes, we spent some quite enjoyable times in Newport, 'schrooming.

Please keep us informed and, BTW, what are the readings there after wiping the windscreen after a rain?

tfw


I only have a metal detector at this point. Maybe I'll make a video of it beeping on the wet grass...last April, it would beep inside my house. I've since removed the batteries. Paranoid to think a metal detector can detect charged/radioactive particles. Thank goodness the detector is a cheapy.

I have a zillion pics to sift through to find those pixellations/discrepancies. Today's google is busy shading everything...



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Greetings my friend:

We need to keep the horror of this environmental warfare nuclear holocaust on the front page of we, the people's, minds and thoughts in a positive, pro-active way, so as to be a beacon of light in the dark night of a potential nuclear winter, as [color=Cyan]positive thoughts create positive reality.




We certainly do not need any more distractions to further pollute our understanding of manifesting reality. We lightworkers have much to do, and as usual, you are on the front line with your incisive observations.

We salute you and wish you complete safety Godspeed.

On our side of the hill, we have been keeping the Bat Signal lit since 3/11- [color=Chartreuse]Nukushima Day 1, contending that what prevails here in America is a well-organized camouflage, a criminal act, actually, orchestrated by the very same people to whom we entrusted the power to uphold the law, and - by extension, our values - and who are paid to protect US: we, the people.

That’s their damn, strike that, sworn duty!!

Ethics, integrity, responsibility, anyone?




The public health radiation-induced quandry in the United States evidenced by infant mortality rates skyrocketing, the contamination of all open water, agricultural land and the entire food chain, not to mention the broader economic and social implications, has neither been fully acknowledged nor addressed in a comprehensive and meaningful fashion by the very authorities we elected and pay mightily for... for what, pray tell?



This is an undeclared nuclear war perpetrated on the peoples of Earth by an uncaring conspiracy comprised of the JAPGOV/TEPCO, the EPA/FDA/USGOV and the MSM worldwide. We have dealt with war before, and we'll treat this attack on we, the people, as such and respond accordingly, albeit with 40 years more knowledge and ammunition plus newly-freed pent-up frustrations of feeling betrayed by those we trust... we do not forget.

America as a nation state is on the Eve of Destruction, teetering on the brink of a precipice that is surely a fatal fall if we were to plunge into the abyss. Our once-fertile, abundant lands and inland, once-pristine waters are now nuclear fallout contaminated - for how long, no one seems to be sure - hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. The balloon has dropped people, and it's called Nukushima.

Too many parts of our country are already uninhabitable forever, plagued by the broken promises of multiple lackey government agencies and nuclear-friendly-and-paid-for administrations that continued to kick the nuclear radioactive waste can down to road and these once-temporary on-site spent fuel pools and dry canister storage have now become the final resting place for this nightmare abomination that is radioactive - for all intents and purposes - FOREVER.




In this light, we are pleased to share a few non-radioactive nuggets to your fine effort.



These are some "fishing" Tweets:

Occupy+Anti-Nuclear Collective = Force to be reckoned with. TEPCO/JAPGOV blink
as radiation cover-up further exposed. DENY IGNORANCE
www.abovetopsecret.com...

RADIATION WATCH 2012+RadWaste in Kyrgyzstan+StarryBrooke intense Yokohama
anti-nuclear rally pics, Passion Personified...DENY IGNORANCE
www.abovetopsecret.com...

DENY IGNORANCE
Radiation Watch 2011:Cold shutdown NUKESPEAK, Yucca Mtn Boondoggle-Now What?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Mutant' life' is not quality living in our book: What say you? DENY IGNORANCE
www.abovetopsecret.com...

All breadcrumbs dropped along the trail lead back to ATS... so, lead, follow,
or get out of the way!

[color=Aqua]Continue to give 'em hell, Muz... we've got your back.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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