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Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
Most of us have worked minimum wage jobs... Many of us several of them at a time just to get by... I fully acknowledge the youth today have some challenges we did not. You also don't have many of the challenges we had.
Every generation is different, and each gets the harsh reality check that life often is not how we envisioned it, and certainly not how we were told it would go if we did this and this and this...
I empathize with you, it is tough to make a place and a standing for yourself in the world. I just don't think its THAT much tougher than it has been for all the past generations,or in some way more impossible than it has been in the years past. Different YES! Harder? In some ways, yes! Better? In someways YES!edit on 10/25/11 by Cinaed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by hudsonhawk69
Yes, what you say is true. What would really like is to reskill just like you suggest... unfortunatey without making more money that is impossible. My bad I made poor life choices.
I just feel that some people would view the OWS movent differently if they had experienced some of what those who support the cause have been through.
While you are correct this is not a central issue brought forward by the OWS movement, just my misguided rant.
How old are you? Your life almost over, no more room for improvement? What skills would you like to get? There are ways, but most have the thing called starting at the bottom, and that means you plan things out and focus your life on those plans even though you make little while you gain skills.
I would love to see more programs that invest in the person who is willing to work towards a better way of life, but it seems both programs and people willing are lacking. Though maybe you and a few others want to work hard to do better if given the chance I see most want money for nothing....
The deal is to always work towards improvement. Get a mimimum paying job, but never stop looking for another job that will teach new skills and allow you to earn more income. Sooner or later you will get a good paying job.
Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
Captialism works if you keep the government out of it except for moderate regulation. NO ONE should ever be *too big to fail* that is what really poopooed up the whole program.
Crooked politicians getting bought off to make crap *stack the deck* laws, lazy citizens that bitched but did nothing because it didn't really affect us, or our flat screen TVs and Iphones etc etc....
Now that it affects us you see various movements awaking to *WTF???* *this affects US*
OWS is just not the answer, if it was it would be representing the whole of the people, not just the far left. Long as it continues to cater to the socialist/communist/global agenda and paints capitalism as the *EVIL* it can do nothing but bring great pain to this country. What worries many of us is we feel it is likely to bring violence and as you can see on the various threads...many are calling for violence and smacking their lips in anticipation of it...
If they truly want to be the 99%...they have to represent the 99%...and they DON'T...not even close.
Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
We need to change some laws and amend the Constitution if necessary, which I believe it is.
To me the beauty in the wisdom of the writers of this document is they created it to be amended as needed, and if what first seemed fair and right, turns out to be a mistake, they made certain future generations could repeal as well.
All we need to do is return to the foundation that made us a great nation. Easier said than done of course, but absolutely doable
Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
Captialism works if you keep the government out of it except for moderate regulation. NO ONE should ever be *too big to fail* that is what really poopooed up the whole program.
Crooked politicians getting bought off to make crap *stack the deck* laws, lazy citizens that bitched but did nothing because it didn't really affect us, or our flat screen TVs and Iphones etc etc....
Now that it affects us you see various movements awaking to *WTF???* *this affects US*
OWS is just not the answer, if it was it would be representing the whole of the people, not just the far left. Long as it continues to cater to the socialist/communist/global agenda and paints capitalism as the *EVIL* it can do nothing but bring great pain to this country. What worries many of us is we feel it is likely to bring violence and as you can see on the various threads...many are calling for violence and smacking their lips in anticipation of it...
If they truly want to be the 99%...they have to represent the 99%...and they DON'T...not even close.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
Tell me exactly which system isn't working right now? We already have many of the socialist programs the communists wanted...a progressive income tax where the rich already are taxed at a higher rate, we have eminent domain where the govt can just seize private property, we have huge property taxes and real estate taxes(that's more redistribution of wealth from private to govt), we have all sorts of welfare, food stamps, free education(senior citizens and people with no children still have to pay for someone else's kids schooling), money to the UN to pay for other countries to have free education and food and vaccines medicine for AIDS incentives to limit families and so on.
So which system isn't working for us?
Originally posted by hudsonhawk69
Again what you say is true but if I am to upskill jow will I support my family if I'm not working. I would love the study unified field theory but that is not exactly something I can do by correspondence
Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Apparently you aren't paying attention to Russia
Or China...
Or the Pope....
Or to how the Arab Spring is not turning out so great for lots of those peeps..... Shariah Law is going to end up ruling some of them.... how is this *better*??? Women will be discriminated against etc etc etc
I guess it's all in perspective. Having been alive during the cold war, I see some familiar patterns....
Putin is an interesting fellow....check out what he is up to
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by hudsonhawk69
Tell me exactly which system isn't working right now? We already have many of the socialist programs the communists wanted...a progressive income tax where the rich already are taxed at a higher rate, we have eminent domain where the govt can just seize private property, we have huge property taxes and real estate taxes(that's more redistribution of wealth from private to govt), we have all sorts of welfare, food stamps, free education(senior citizens and people with no children still have to pay for someone else's kids schooling), money to the UN to pay for other countries to have free education and food and vaccines medicine for AIDS incentives to limit families and so on.
So which system isn't working for us?