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Originally posted by Wolf321
I called this guy out in the other thread.
I am sorry that I was wrong. Sorry because what it means is that this veteran is going out there disgracing the uniform in both its wear and his grandstanding. I would expect that from a poser, not a true vet.
I know there are abusive cops. I have voice my opinion on renegade law enforcement here before. I also don't like that law enforcement nationwide has become so paramilitary in their operation. However, I have seen a lot of the videos from OWS (New York, not other city protests) and I have not seen any that equate to abuse. I have only seen cops having to deal with a mass of people while maintaining the safety and flow of vehicle and pedestrian traffic. The few instances I have seen where cops were arresting people or being somewhat forceful, were when protesters were not following lawful request made in order to protect their safety and the safety of others (i.e. barricades.)
This Marine embarrassed himself, and all other OWS protesters in his uncouth behavior, as well as bringing discredit to the Marine Corps.
Originally posted by Anonex
Originally posted by Wolf321
I called this guy out in the other thread.
I am sorry that I was wrong. Sorry because what it means is that this veteran is going out there disgracing the uniform in both its wear and his grandstanding. I would expect that from a poser, not a true vet.
I know there are abusive cops. I have voice my opinion on renegade law enforcement here before. I also don't like that law enforcement nationwide has become so paramilitary in their operation. However, I have seen a lot of the videos from OWS (New York, not other city protests) and I have not seen any that equate to abuse. I have only seen cops having to deal with a mass of people while maintaining the safety and flow of vehicle and pedestrian traffic. The few instances I have seen where cops were arresting people or being somewhat forceful, were when protesters were not following lawful request made in order to protect their safety and the safety of others (i.e. barricades.)
This Marine embarrassed himself, and all other OWS protesters in his uncouth behavior, as well as bringing discredit to the Marine Corps.
I couldn't disagree with everything you just said more if I tried. God bless him for defending us from threats foreign AND domestic. He is an inspiration, not a disgrace, not an embarrassment. Nothing short of a hero. I bet if he had been in uniform at a Tea Party cheering on the right you would have had no problem with his "uniform."
Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by allprowolfy
Yes, 6 years USAF, OEF/OIF.
Yes, I know who Chesty was. I was not aware of any instance where he went out to protest corporations and ended up yelling at cops walking around doing nothing. You might need to check your history on that, or provide evidence.
I assume that this guy learned military bearing at one time. Grandstanding has never been a tenet of good military behavior. There was no call for his outburst.
Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by allprowolfy
I am not debating the merits of OWS here, or that this Marine wanted to support any OWS views. His behavior in the video against the cops, and after bring discredit to himself and others. That is wherein his shame lies.
"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."
Lincoln
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
S Adams
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
S Adams
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
I'm sure you know this one
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
Thomas Paine