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Topic started on 18-10-2011 @ 12:53 AM by Heyyo_yoyo
Judicial Watch Asks Congress To Review Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan's Role in Obamacare

OK ATS....

Here we go with yet ANOTHER underhanded scandal Barack Obama has been exposed as being complicit with. This time it also involves a Supreme Court Judge appointed by Obama - Elena Kagan.



The scandal?

In July 2010, during her confirmation process, Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee asked Kagan in a letter: “Have you ever been asked about your opinion regarding the underlying legal or constitutional issues related to any proposed health care legislation, including but not limited to Pub. L. No. 111-148, or the underlying legal or constitutional issues related to potential litigation resulting from such legislation?”

They also asked: “Have you ever offered any views or comments regarding the underlying legal or constitutional issues related to any proposed health care legislation, including but not limited to Pub. L. No. 111-148, or the underlying legal or constitutional issues related to any potential litigation from such legislation?”

Kagan’s answer to both questions was: “No.”


Documents Raise Questions about Kagan’s Role in Obamacare Defense

Elena Kagan has said she was not involved in Department of Justice (DOJ) preparations for legal challenges to Obamacare.

Documents obtained by Judicial Watch as result of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit suggest that Kagan helped coordinate the Obama administration’s legal strategy to defend Obamacare.


FOIA emails clearly acknowledge that Kagan was involved in the strategy to defend Obamacare from the very beginning, and as recently as March 2010.

Then the president nominates Kagan to the Supreme Court in May 2010, and all of the sudden she knows nothing about the Obama administration’s legal strategy for defending Obamacare...

It's only obvious that Obama hand-picked Elena Kagan to make sure that ObamaCare's individual mandate is ruled constitutional in the upcoming Supreme Court vote. Kagan has already proven her complicity in this scandal by first lying through her teeth with the statement that she was not involved in any Department of Justice (DOJ) preparations for legal challenges to Obamacare, then breaking the law in April 2011 by not recusing herself from the High Court decision not to “fast-track” for Supreme Court review Virginia’s lawsuit challenging Obamacare.

Federal law, specifically 28 U.S.C. 455, states:

a “justice … shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might be reasonably questioned.” It further says any justice “shall also disqualify himself … [w]here he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceedings or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy.”


When Kagan worked for Obama as Solicitor General, she helped CREATE many of the healthcare law's policies! Supreme Court judges MUST be unbiased, especially when they will rule on what could be the MOST IMPORTANT Supreme Court case of our lives!


So now Congress, as a result of Judicial Watch exposing this, is investigating this... as announced back in June and reported on by the Washington Times.

In a letter to committee Chairman Lamar Smith, Texas Republican, and the panel’s ranking Democrat, John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, the lawmakers said that “contradictory to her 2010 confirmation testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee,” recently released Justice Department documents show that Justice Kagan “actively participated with her Obama administration colleagues in formulating a defense” for the law.

The lawmakers, including 10 doctors and GOP presidential candidates Rep. Ron Paul of Texas and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, said the documents raise “serious questions” about Justice Kagan’s ability to “exercise objectivity” in any case involving the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) that comes before the Supreme Court.


Evidently Congress is still requesting data related to this investigation, the only update I found to the June article comming in July:

House lawmaker asks Justice for data about Kagan

However this update makes some serious issues the Congress has discovered that this post here has revealed, and it's probably these very issues that not only will make the approaching Supreme court decision on the constitutionality of Obamacare more complex than it should have had to be, but also the validity of Supreme Court rullings on it questionable, until answers - in truth - are given relating to the intentional lies Elena Kagan wrote in reply to a congressional inquiry... also known as Purgery.

Honestly, what in the heck is up with all of these people associated with Obama and their comfort in purgering themselves, and lying through thier teeth to the American People?

I have a theory...

I bet Elena Kagan is really sitting on some solid sh*t bricks right about now...



She's been caught lying to a Congressional Inquiry, and that for Judiciary Confirmation in her role as a Supremem Court Judge. If it's determined that she indeed purgered herself she'll most likely be removed from the bench, and probably fined and imprisoned.

It's only obvious that Obama nominated her to that position, because he knew her complicity and asked her to purger herself to get the position. He felt comfortable asking her that because Obama himself, is comfortable with purgery, including forgery, as the recent release of his birth certificate he claims is official revealed.

And let's not forget Eric Holder's purgery pertaining to the Congressional Inquiry over Operation Gun Walker... It's most likely that Obama Purgered himself there too... but that's a different topic.

It will be interesting to see what Obama has to say about Elena Kagan, when Congress ultimately questions him about her role in defense of Obamacare, which is inevitably going to be asked...

Will he throw her under the bus like he did Eric Holder?

probably...


reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 01:09 AM by Ghost375
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It's only obvious that Obama hand-picked Elena Kagan to make sure that ObamaCare's individual mandate is ruled constitutional in the upcoming Supreme Court vote.


EVERY president from time immemorial has picked a judge that will side with their views.



reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 01:19 AM by Heyyo_yoyo
Originally posted by Ghost375
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It's only obvious that Obama hand-picked Elena Kagan to make sure that ObamaCare's individual mandate is ruled constitutional in the upcoming Supreme Court vote.


EVERY president from time immemorial has picked a judge that will side with their views.


Obviously true. However this is the 22nd Century, and now we have the ability to catch the ones who make such appointments, and the quality and character of said appointments, through the use of purgery and deceit.

Makes for a more clarifying understanding of what we're really dealing with here...


reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 01:47 AM by links234
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So long as Clarence Thomas recuses himself for his wifes dealings in opposition to the law, I'd be OK with Kagan recusing herself.

Until that happens I don't think you have a lot to go on here.


reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 02:09 AM by Heyyo_yoyo
Originally posted by links234
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So long as Clarence Thomas recuses himself for his wifes dealings in opposition to the law, I'd be OK with Kagan recusing herself.

Until that happens I don't think you have a lot to go on here.


I don't see where Thomas' Wife is included in the law regards Thomas' own record on involvement with Obamacare. True, I agree that a conflict of interest exists regards Mrs. Thomas' influence on her husband's ability to provide unbiased decisions in that regard, but I'm not too sure the law provides for that.


reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 02:30 AM by links234
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Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge

(4) He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding.



reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 03:23 AM by Heyyo_yoyo
Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it when folks can actually post intelligent responses...

In a related article - which comments on Obama's propensity for lying - Mycal Massey, a prominent African American Journalist/ lobbyist made some rather radical accusation towards Obama and family on the Federal Observer I found disheartening, while at the same time encouraging, as this is indeed another African American, making statements referencing another African American, who instead of publishing all the glorious messianic greatness he feels for Obama, he actually delivers a scathing retort... to a black man that stained the reputation, character, and celebration of America's first African American President.

I truly sympathize with Mr. Massey's statements... In his commentary
Nero in the White House

But in the case of Obama, he lies because he is a liar. He doesn’t only lie to cover his misdeeds – he lies to get his way. He lies to belittle others and to make himself look presentable at their expense. He lies about his faith, his associations, his mother, his father and his wife. He lies and bullies to keep his background secret. His lying is congenital and compounded by socio-psychological factors of his life.

Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequaled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood.


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reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 04:13 PM by ThirdMind
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When I read "scandal" I was expecting it to be another "U.S President gets head from ________." After I saw her picture though.... That thought quickly left my mind.


reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 04:19 PM by Rockstrongo37
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This simply isnt a case of picking a judge with the same views, this is picking a judge that doesn't tell the truth in the vetting process.



reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 04:49 PM by neo96
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Like i said good luck as long as the Democrats hold the Majority Senator Reid is their leader nothing will get introduced the only way to get rid of Kagan is to change the balance of power in congress.

She need's to be terminated and no matter what we think we can't do anything.
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reply posted on 18-10-2011 @ 05:36 PM by Heyyo_yoyo
On top of all of this, I just read up about a law passed in 200 entitled the Federal Courts Improvement Act that basically gives immunity against actions taken against Supreme Court Justices...

"Immunity applies even when the judge is accused of acting maliciously and corruptly." -- United States Supreme Court


It seems that every day, I discover more and more BULLS*IT these people have done to protect criminal actions against the American People.

They can't protect themselves from an angry crowd, and I'll wager that not too many Americans are actually informed about laws like the Federal Courts "Improvement" Act... To me, how does immunity for committing crime an improvement?

More and more, it's rapidly becoming apparent that the only way to bring about the restoration of American Freedom and bring the civility of American Justice back to a humane level is by physically taking control of America's critical institutional infrastructure and eradicating those holding them as leverage against the American People for their own selfish and criminally intended agendas.

I think that for Ron Paul to actually succeed in committing to the programs he's outlined, laws such as the Federal Courts Improvement Act will need to be immediately abolished. IF Ron Paul makes the presidency, he's gonna need a lot of HONEST people helping him out!
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