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reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 02:44 AM by Cecilofs
As has been noted the Mayans believed the Venus transit to be significant in the shift at the end of their long count calendar.

The new age/spiritual interpretation of this transit is a shift in consciousness towards a more loving, open society. Venus in Roman mythology was the god of love, so symbolically this is significant in terms of shifting to a more loving paradigm.

Venus is also associated with the feminine (e.g. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus) and so its return/transit can be symbolic of increased feminine energy. I would say that we have seen an increase in feminine energy in the world since 2004 as well as further increases in rights and equality for women in a lot of places. However there's not a strong correlation since this has been going on for decades. I think that this process will continue for a while, but the pendulum is starting to swing back the other direction (discrimination against men in some circumstances - no Feminine Hygiene Product ads, I am not that retarded, # you!) - hopefully it will find a nice balance by the end of next year

In Egyptian mythology Venus is related to the Phoenix, symbolising rebirth and renewal - thus the transit is symbolic of rebirth and renewal for planet earth. When added to the Mayan's idea that from our perspective, the sun will appear to be decending through the centre of the galaxy (What they called the Birth Canal) at the end of 2012 I see this idea as significant.

In Christian mythology, Venus or the Morning Star is associated with the Devil or Lucifer. Could potentially be tied into the return of Lucifer. Meanwhile, many Christian groups are claiming that these are the end times and that the second coming of Christ is near - this would presumably be preceded by the return of Lucifer according to Biblical prophecies.

There are theories going around at the moment about mass rituals being run by Elite Satanist groups involving Venus/Lucifer and basically trying to resurrect Lucifer. According to those theories this also ties in with a lot of what NASA is doing recently, the Chille mining accidents and possibly even 9/11 to name a few. From what I understand the timing of these events is linked to the passage of Venus. These ideas are obviously heavily rooted in Christianity as well.

As for Timewave Zero - the last Venus transit was around 1980 which is roughly the time period we have been resonating with for the last year or so. Obviously there's not a solid correlation because the transit always takes 8 years and happens every 110-130 years from the dates as posted. I still found it interesting that the last transit also happened during a time in which great changes were taking place and that we have been resonating with this time recently.

I think that just about covers it - or at least my very limited understanding of it. I don't agree with all of these ideas but I think its interesting that Venus and its transit are significant to many different religions and theories. All roads lead away from Rome and IMO all signs point to something significant going on around here.


reply posted on 20-10-2011 @ 04:30 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Cecilofs



As has been noted the Mayans believed the Venus transit to be significant in the shift at the end of their long count calendar.

I don't believe there is any evidence that the Mayans knew about transits of Venus. I'm not 100% positive, but I'm fairly certain that they did not record such an event.

Maya Cosmos by David Freidel, Linda Schele, Joy Parker 1990
To the Maya, it[Venus] was related to creation, to the Hero Twins, and to war.

In the second part of this page you will find a reading about the murials of Bonampak. It is on these murals that archaeologists have been able to associated Venus with war and sacrifice.

The 2012 date is from the Mayans and the Mayans associated Venus with human sacrifice and war.

As for Timewave Zero - the last Venus transit was around 1980

As I posted in the previous post there was a transit in 2004 and the one before that was in 1882. There was no transit in 1980.

Obviously there's not a solid correlation because the transit always takes 8 years and happens every 110-130 years from the dates as posted.

It's a 243 cycle that varies. Check the following link.
en.wikipedia.org...



reply posted on 21-10-2011 @ 06:49 AM by stereologist
One of the claims about Venus is the following:
2. Sunspots stopped immediately after 1631-39.


Here is the list of dates for the transits.
May 24, 1032
Nov 23, 1396
May 25, 1518
May 23, 1526
Dec 7, 1631
Dec 4, 1639
Jun 6, 1761
Jun 3, 1769
Dec 9, 1874
Dec 6, 1882
Jun 8, 2004
Jun 6, 2012 <--- predicted


Is there a sunspot pattern change at these transit dates? This is a simple question to check.

This is the first link I provided in the opening post.
Stargate: 2004-2012 Venus Transit
I examined the next Venus Transit, which took place in 1631-39. I found that sunspots stopped appearing for 70 years immediately following this cycle. The radical drop in solar output caused the ‘little ice age’ from 1640 to 1710. Then I pulled up solar data and found that solar output has been on the increase for almost 300 years. Sunspots went from zero in the late 1600s to above 200 in 1960, which appears to have been the peak.

This is when the real meaning of the 2012 prediction dawned on me. The ancient priests were alerting us to a change in solar output. I then turned to the 11-year sunspot cycle and found connections between rising solar maximums and increasing natural disasters, wars, economic cycles and so on. It became apparent that natural disasters and human activity were clearly tied to the sunspot peaks and troughs. You can look at the recent sunspot peaks in 1990-91 and double peak in 2000-02 to see the connections to earthquakes, volcanoes and wars.


May 24, 1032
Nov 23, 1396
May 25, 1518
May 23, 1526
Dec 7, 1631 - Dec 4, 1639 Maunder minimum started about 1645 and went to 1715
Jun 6, 1761 - Jun 3, 1769 Looks like the normal ups and downs
Dec 9, 1874 - Dec 6, 1882 More normal ups and downs
Jun 8, 2004 - no evidence of a situation like the Maunder minimum yet

I looked at the following links to check out sun spot number
spaceweather.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

The problem is that it is not possible to check the sunspot numbers before 1610 when Galileo invents the telescope. That I do not believe matters since there have been no anomalies with sunspot numbers in 2 cycles are that and it does not appear that anything like the Maunder minimum is happening now.

Also notice the webpage claimed "immediately" after the cycle, but in fact there was a 15 year gap.

I think it is safe to say that the Venus transit - sunspot claim is false.


reply posted on 23-2-2012 @ 04:51 PM by stereologist
Here is a great resource on the Venus transit.

www.transitofvenus.org...

For the gadget crowd consider this
transitofvenus.nl...
It is a chance to do real science to measure the size of the solar system.


reply posted on 24-2-2012 @ 11:36 AM by Imtor
reply to post by Dalke07



Nothing like that will happen. I have to point on few things and corrections:

At this time of the year Jupiter and Venus can be seen around 6pm or early evening. Venus sets around 8.pm. Mars rises in late evening with Jupiter still on the horizon but about to set, Orion, Canis Major and all constellations around can be seen also in the early evening on the stellar sphere, inluding Taurus and the Pleiades.

Venus I think I remember observing the transition years ago, Venus was a small black disc on the background of the sun's disc. I think I watched it with special sun glasses but I also had a telescope with sun filter back than, I remember the warmth on your eye when looking at the sun.

No earthquakes will happen, how the planets allign towards the sun are not the reason for earthquakes that occured. The gravity of all planets towards the sun - Venus, Mercury is too little to cause any effect on the earth when just passing through the sun's disc as seen frm the Earth

If you don't have a telescope, seeing a black dot on the sun's disc was nothing special..
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