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However, he was also friends with Erich von daniken, who for some is considered not credible.
Yet through this association it is evident that Neil Armstrong felt that Erich von daniken was credible.
Neil believed in Erich's credibility enough to put his own money on the line and go searching for the Tayos Library. The question is why?
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
btw: does anyone know the source for the Neil Armstrong 'Moonbase' comments ?
Here are some links with the background on the bogus Armstrong story:
Here’s a full presentation of that Armstrong quote, attributed [I believe correctly] to Otto Binder.
nasa-image.blogspot.com...
Numerous Apollo mission quotations:
xenophilius.wordpress.com...
An original and important piece of independent research on Otto Binder:
secretsun.blogspot.com...
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Loopdaloop
However, he was also friends with Erich von daniken, who for some is considered not credible.
Yet through this association it is evident that Neil Armstrong felt that Erich von daniken was credible.
Neil believed in Erich's credibility enough to put his own money on the line and go searching for the Tayos Library. The question is why?
No, the question is: wherever did you get the idea that Neil Armstrong ever had anything at all to do with Erich von Daniken?
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
Don't forget that Neil Armstrong claimed that we were 'warned off' by aliens on the moon
The first man on the moon also had an interest in the Tayos Library of Gold and went on a visit there, the same library which Erich Von Daniken states possibly contains the history of the ancient alien visitors. www.philipcoppens.com...
For men who are scientists, I believe them.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Gordon Cooper, Edgar Mitchell, and Buzz Adrin have publically stated their belief that we have been visited by extraterrestrial entities. These are highly decorated American heroes, M.I.T. Graduates, and experienced combat pilots. What are we to believe? I tend to believe them as credible witnesses. Did they really see E.T. UFOs? Or did they see secret advanced aircraft?
I pose this question to forum members...what are your thoughts on this subject.
What do you mean by that? Do you believe that this is in doubt?
I put forward the question, common courtesy dictates that if you disagree to put forward an argument as to why,
as opposed to throwing out one line questions.
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
Originally posted by DJW001
No, the question is: wherever did you get the idea that Neil Armstrong ever had anything at all to do with Erich von Daniken?
What do you mean by that? Do you believe that this is in doubt? I put forward the question, common courtesy dictates that if you disagree to put forward an argument as to why, as opposed to throwing out one line questions.
Originally posted by arbiture
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by Mcupobob
WHOA Whoa whoa. I want to see a source on this like yesterday, Its not that I don't believe you its just I want to see it for myself! If our moon/space walkers say theres aliens then theres aliens!
If they told you there was a Noah's Ark, would you conclude there really was a Noah's Ark?
Noah"s Ark? likely misidentified, likely something "else". As for Noah and the Ark? It's a composite on the old legend of "stories to explain what ain't easy to explain", such as the vast number of flood stories, etc. and other flood myths through history. Not that floods DON'T happen, they do why build such elaborate protocols&attempts to understand such things? Poop happens, and people need REASONS, at least thats a good sign in and of itself. The need to know is a basic human need to "figure things out". When we wrap it in a specific religious motif we deny the reason we invented religion in the first place; To understand when poop, etc, happens, and why we are, or "the meaning of it all", etc.
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
It is beyond my remit to go hunting down Stan Hall's estate and the film crew that went with them and Neil armstrong on the 1976 expedition. I am sure that there are plenty of other things from 1976 that arn't easily accessible on the internet also.
The only two people that are suggesting that there is a dispute to this narrative is yourselves and without any evidence yourself to suggest that this did not happen aside from your own supurious conjecture the burden does actually lie with yourselves. Is There concerns as to the versacity of Stan's
Record of the event?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
It is beyond my remit to go hunting down Stan Hall's estate and the film crew that went with them and Neil armstrong on the 1976 expedition. I am sure that there are plenty of other things from 1976 that arn't easily accessible on the internet also.
The only two people that are suggesting that there is a dispute to this narrative is yourselves and without any evidence yourself to suggest that this did not happen aside from your own supurious conjecture the burden does actually lie with yourselves. Is There concerns as to the versacity of Stan's
Record of the event?
The only evidence Stan Hall offers that Armstrong was there, is a photograph that clearly does NOT show moonwalker Neil Armstrong.
Your own gullibility is NOT evidence for the authenticity of Hall's claim.
Are you suggesting that Neil Armstrong visited that area but nobody else noticed he was there, and nobody back home noticed he was gone? And that he underwent plastic surgery to alter his appearance?
The Occam's Razor preferred explanation is that somebody claiming to be Armstrong showed up, and nobody on the expedition remembered what he really looked like so they believed him -- or better, Stan Hall made it all up counting on the gullibility of his target audience.
Originally posted by JimOberg
A response from Loop to this objection is still awaited.
The offered evidence appears to be spuriious.
So why believe the original claim?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by Loopdaloop
It is beyond my remit to go hunting down Stan Hall's estate and the film crew that went with them and Neil armstrong on the 1976 expedition. I am sure that there are plenty of other things from 1976 that arn't easily accessible on the internet also.
The only two people that are suggesting that there is a dispute to this narrative is yourselves and without any evidence yourself to suggest that this did not happen aside from your own supurious conjecture the burden does actually lie with yourselves. Is There concerns as to the versacity of Stan's
Record of the event?
The only evidence Stan Hall offers that Armstrong was there, is a photograph that clearly does NOT show moonwalker Neil Armstrong.
Your own gullibility is NOT evidence for the authenticity of Hall's claim.
Are you suggesting that Neil Armstrong visited that area but nobody else noticed he was there, and nobody back home noticed he was gone? And that he underwent plastic surgery to alter his appearance?
The Occam's Razor preferred explanation is that somebody claiming to be Armstrong showed up, and nobody on the expedition remembered what he really looked like so they believed him -- or better, Stan Hall made it all up counting on the gullibility of his target audience.
Originally posted by MadhatterTheGreat
I'm kind of iffy about government officials, especially astronauts, coming forward. I believe we have been visited and if anyone on this planet has had encounters it has to be astronauts, but at the same time, they are "company men" and I wouldn't put it past some of them to put out disinformation for the government. I would say the most credible would be Gordon Cooper, I've never doubted one word of his testimony. .....
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Originally posted by expat2368
I am constantly amazed that people refuse to believe even our own astronauts.
Everyone is screaming for "disclosure", what do they want? The Astronauts come out and openly state the y have seen ET craft and say we are being visited and it is met with disbelief. Millions spent to train those guys, professionals who have been into space and even to the Moon.. and they are not believed.
It just is beyond comprehension.
I tend to feel the same way as you. Gordon Cooper had a pretty significant sitting at Edwards AFB, filmed to boot, of course the Pentagon quickly secured it. Mitchell, while intelligent and well spoken, I find nebulous at times. Aldrin I find right in the middle of the two. Now Armstrong, I find most intresting. I thought it odd that Vice Pres Gore thanked him for his "silent service." I believe he has taken his oath of silence most literal, and it bothers him, which is why he has said very little about the subject, neither confirming oe denying Aldrins claims. Yes, I believe we have a great deal of disclosure.
Originally posted by JimOberg
reply to post by nv4711
Terrific piece of original scholarship. I stand corrected and accept this evidence that Armstrong was there.