Earthquake Predictions, Magnitude ~ 8 Around 26 October 2011, Gravitational Force of Moon, Supermoon

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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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I know some criticize my but Predictions & Prophecies forum is still here and someone needs to fill him up ..

Want to post here theory what is in my mind all the time and personally hope I'm wrong for this one ..

Today is 15 October, think can happen in next 20 days around 26 October 2011 ..
Is not possible to be precise because some times tectonic plates trigger little before or little later of maximum gravitation force and kinetic energy of Moon and Sun ..

The Sun and Moon affect the oceans and tide oceans, making pressure on tectonic plates stronger and weaker ..

That happens when Moon be in very short period around 30 days two times in every year closes (Perigee) and farthest (Apogee) from Earth ..
And that dangerous time for earthquakes are in 30 days (x 2) in different months every years like you can see here ..

Earth - Sun only one time in year have closes and farthest distance ..

Moon is responsible for 56% of the Earth's tidal energy while the Sun claims responsibility for a mere 44% like them claims ..

When the sun, moon, and the earth are lined up, the sun and moon are exerting their strongest force together and tidal ranges are at their maximum ..

This occurs twice each month, when the moon is full and new, twice in year Moon is closest to Earth and make strongest gravitation force ..

We have on 26 October 2011 supermoon like was when that tragical earthquake happen in Japan there only was super full Moon ..
It will be same situation like we have in March for gravitation pressure, only we here in Japan one of strongest geomagnetic storm at 11.03.2011 ..

Here you have many combination, to predict strongest earthquake is not so simple but i think is real way ..
So cant be precise for time of earthquake, for location is mach more difficult but i think it possible ..


Some graphic illustration ..

home.hiwaay.net...

www.ei.lehigh.edu...






Here is time of Sun and Moon in same location with stronger gravitation pressure together in one year, new Moon and closes to Earth ..
Supermoon ..
26 October 2011




Here I post only two year for that 30 days, others you can see your self here ..

Jan 30 2010 9:04 356592 km ++ F+2h Feb 13 2:07 406541 km -- N-1d 0h
Sep 08 2010 4:02 357191 km N- 6h Sep 21 8:04 406167 km + F-2d 1h

Mar 19 2011 19:10 356577 km ++ F+ 0h Apr 2 9:01 406655 km -- N-1d 5h
Oct 26 2011 12:27 357050 km - N- 7h Nov 8 13:21 406176 km + F-2d 6h

Feb 27 2010 (06:34 UTC) Chile 8.8
Sept 4 2010 (16:35 UTC) Christchurch New Zealand 7.2
March 11 2011 (05:46 UTC) Japan 9.1


Source ..

geography.about.com...
www.fourmilab.ch...
www.physicalgeography.net...
home.hiwaay.net...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
www.eepe.murdoch.edu.au...
www.ei.lehigh.edu...

Peace and sorry for my English ..
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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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I post somethings for possible location but is only some theory probably I will be wrong but need to share this with others ..

Think very probably if happened be in ocean and on sensitive places over "Ring of Fire", but think north India and around Greece are dangerous places too ..

I think all is possible because that direct gravitation pressure on ocean and tectonic plate can trigger that plate on opposite side etc ..

Please help me here to find possible location I don't have to mach free time, I know on ATS we have very mach members with high knowledge ..

Be mach interesting to see your perspective where can appear ..

Day and Night World Map can help you to0 ..

www.timeanddate.com...

But where of "Ring of Fire" that is question, think Chile - Eastern Islands - New Zealand - Indonesia very possible so all is possible ..

Watch where Moon path on Earth around 26 October, when is moon we have stronger earthquakes like last days ..

With this we can understood that dangerous time for earthquakes ..

I monitory hertz signals worldwide from 1 to 75 hertz, can be predicted 5 hours before happens stronger M 4 + ..

But need to be more accurate for post ..
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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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According to this source it logical thinking of location West Cost but this only one solution ..


Last 25 years no M 8 ..
www.mapsofworld.com...

The Largest Earthquakes in the United States
www.infoplease.com...

California Earthquake Prediction For September 2011 By John Hogue On Coast To Coast AM
www.youtube.com...

Jim Berkland (Geologist), W Coast Quake window starts March 19 2011 *ATS Experiment Added*
www.abovetopsecret.com...



www.youtube.com...
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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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The Japan earthquake occurred on 11 March. The supermoon was on 19 March. There is no correlation between supermoons and large earthquakes.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Very interesting Dalke....I don't really know much about earthquakes, but it is a very interesting theory you have put out. We need some earthquake people here to read this...I hope it doesn't come true though. Good work on the research!



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by oxbow
The Japan earthquake occurred on 11 March. The supermoon was on 19 March. There is no correlation between supermoons and large earthquakes.


You need to read first ..

30 days around Perigee is stronger pressure of tectonic plate and that many knows you can find info

One more read for you ..

en.wikipedia.org...

Here is what I post ..

"Is not possible to be precise because some times tectonic plates trigger little before or little later of maximum gravitation force and kinetic energy of Moon and Sun .. "

"And that dangerous time for earthquakes are in around 30 days ( Perigee x 2 ) in different months every years like you can see here .."



But I say one more time, is only some theory is very possible nothing happen ..

No need to worry, but research we must all do and learn every day more ..

Maybe some day we can help to people to predict this monstrous disasters like is strong earthquake

I'm here only because I want to help and learn, my wife have strongest fear for earthquakes ..

I feel very bad because of she, she feel one very strong like child in apartment all along and have trauma all life ..

Peace and peace to Earth ..
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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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Thank you for letting us know about your prediction
and all of the other information you provided. I know
that the Moon has a big influence on the earth and
I find your theory very interesting. So the next moon
is called the Supermoon and it has the most
gravitational pull, is that correct? S @ F



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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It is taking some time to read all the links, but it is VERY interesting Dalke.... I like the way you think outside the box!



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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That's correct ..

When is moon closet to Earth and must be full Moon or new Moon that is supermoon, in that time strongest or highest tides are appear every time ..

Strongest tide more gravitation pressure ..

Watch here highest tide, example for Savannah Area ..
www.wtoc.com...

Sun 23 Oct 05:13 am 7.7 11:41 am 0.4 5:35 pm 8.0 -------- ---
Mon 24 Oct 12:03 am 0.1 6:11 am 8.3 12:40 pm 0.0 6:32 pm 8.2
Tue 25 Oct 12:56 am -0.3 7:07 am 8.9 1:36 pm -0.4 7:26 pm 8.4
We 26 Oct 01:49 am -0.6 8:00 am 9.3 2:31 pm -0.6 8:18 pm 8.4 NEW
Thu 27 Oct 02:40 am -0.8 8:52 am 9.4 3:24 pm -0.6 9:09 pm 8.3
Fri 28 Oct 03:31 am -0.8 9:43 am 9.4 4:16 pm -0.5 10:01 pm 8.1
Sat 29 Oct 04:22 am -0.6 10:37 am 9.1


A "supermoon" is the coincidence of a full moon (or a new moon) with the closest approach the Moon makes to the Earth on its elliptical orbit, or perigee, leading to the technical name for a supermoon of the perigee-syzygy of the Earth-Moon-Sun system. The association of the Moon with both oceanic and crustal tides has led to claims that the supermoon phenomenon may be associated with increased risk of events such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. However, the evidence of such a link is widely held to be unconvincing.[1]


en.wikipedia.org...

14% bigger or closer to Earth ..



www.fourmilab.ch...


Right is the Sun in this picture below ..

"When the Sun, Moon, and the Earth are lined up, the sun and moon are exerting their strongest force together and tidal ranges are at their maximum ".

geography.about.com...



We need mach more time to study on this, it not happen every time in past when supermoon appear but % is high and have some other reason for trigger stronger earthquake ..

But for this time I think we have M 7.7+ somewhere in ocean in "RIng of Fire" ..
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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We have strong EQ activity in last 12 hours ..

Big pressure worldwide was released, here only 4+ M ..

www.emsc-csem.org...

2011-10-16 10:39:48.3 32.51 S 71.44 W 44 .. mb 5.0 A OFFSHORE VALPARAISO, CHILE MIX
2011-10-16 10:22:18.7 24.42 S 177.77 W 229 mb 4.7 M SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS NEIR
2011-10-16 09:48:08.6 49.14 N 154.82 E 643. mb 4.7 A KURIL ISLANDS SC3
2011-10-16 09:46:01.2 36.11 N 142.20 E 12.... M 4.7 M OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN NEIR
2011-10-16 09:47:14.9 48.01 N 152.88 E 137. mb 5.3 A KURIL ISLANDS MIX
2011-10-16 06:47:16.3 27.19 N 139.46 E 546.. M 4.6 M BONIN ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION NEIR
2011-10-16 04:24:42.2 20.00 S 169.17 E 52.. mb 5.4 M+ VANUATU INFO
2011-10-16 04:01:37.7 55.69 N 160.65 E 200. mb 4.1 M KAMCHATKA PENINSULA, RUSSIA GSRC
2011-10-16 03:42:25.9 40.73 N 28.12 E 7...... ML 4.0 M+ WESTERN TURKEY INFO
2011-10-16 01:35:10.6 65.09 N 72.18 E 10..... M 5.2 A NORTHWESTERN SIBERIA, RUSSIA GFZ
2011-10-16 01:35:30.7 43.46 N 41.85 W 33.. mb 4.9 A NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN LDG
2011-10-16 01:28:44.1 28.90 N 147.06 E 10. mb 5.7 A EAST OF THE BONIN ISLANDS SC3
2011-10-16 00:31:12.0 35.81 N 76.44 E 47... mb 4.5 M+ NORTHWESTERN KASHMIR INFO
2011-10-16 00:31:34.9 24.90 S 179.67 E 510 mb 4.5 M SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS NEIR
2011-10-15 23:29:28.3 21.75 N 143.11 E 292 mb 4.8 M+ MARIANA ISLANDS REGION INFO
2011-10-15 23:22:45.7 18.99 N 145.07 E 567 mb 4.7 M+ PAGAN REG., N. MARIANA ISLANDS INFO
2011-10-15 22:32:23.8 34.63 N 140.78 E 10.. mb 5.1 A NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN BEO
2011-10-15 22:33:48.3 52.52 N 136.33 E 10.. mb 5.3 A KHABAROVSKIY KRAY, RUSSIA SC3
2011-10-15 22:24:50.6 25.86 S 177.32 W 158 mb 5.2 M+ SOUTH OF FIJI ISLANDS INFO
2011-10-15 22:14:10.1 29.98 S 71.54 W 49... mb 4.5 M OFFSHORE COQUIMBO, CHILE NEIR
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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I find this thread very interesting, both for personal reasons and the fact that it has good info and links.
I have also private messaged you Dalke07.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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Excellent thread! S&F! however, there will be the usual skeptics running in here begging for evidence and giving "evidence" that your theories are wrong. Let them talk, we do not have the resources to prove this right, or wrong.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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awesome thread. whether you're right or wrong...your theory is very plausible. and i must admit...i usually don't care for most of your threads. this one...you could very well be on to something. and if not...you are still using your head on this one.

S&F for you bro.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Well, you certainly have put much work into this thread,.
However,. I will wager against you to say this will will not happen
Based on historical data.,. But good luck on your prediction



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Wow, interesting possibilities here, much information to digest. Is it possible? Maybe as there are so many other factors coming together including collective consciousness to say it is highly possible.

Possible, possible, possible...



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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You know anything is not so simple have many reason for trigger stronger earthquake ..

Earthquake happen every day in year but is proven that days pressure is most on tectonic plate ..

Important reasons for my is location or line of Moon/Sun pressure when appear supermoon and present situation of magma movement and tectonic plates or instability of both ..

Supermoon and Sun line of pressure from March was on down side of Filipino tectonic and that plate end upper on that EQ location, try to see possibility of that but very big area is in game and number of tectonic plate ..

Plate tectonics




We have on 26 October this location, pressure can be on any of this tectonic plates but time and location you can see in pic below "Ring of Fire" plate be most dangerous and we have situation there very unstable and active ..
I think is very possible if happen stronger earthquake will be area of New Zealand, Fuji -Tonga but possibility have too for area Chile, West Cost, North India, around Greece and Japan ..



www.timeanddate.com...
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Dalke07

Originally posted by oxbow
The Japan earthquake occurred on 11 March. The supermoon was on 19 March. There is no correlation between supermoons and large earthquakes.


You need to read first ..

30 days around Perigee is stronger pressure of tectonic plate and that many knows you can find info

One more read for you ..

en.wikipedia.org...


I read what you said. You didn't provide any real evidence at all, only speculation. From the Wiki page you linked to:


...which arises from the periodic alignment of the Sun and Moon, has often been claimed in the popular press to incubate earthquakes (sometimes termed the "syzygy" effect) and occasionally for small datasets in the scientific literature (e.g., Glaser (2003)), but generally such effects do not appear in careful studies of large datasets.


Thus there is no scientific basis for correlating large earthquakes with supermoons, as I said previously.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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The supermoon theory has been hit and miss,. discussed here on ATS many times. so therefore making the predictability of any such event as plausible as any earthquake that occurs at anytime.. if you do a search,. one of the videos posted of Jim the EX-geoguy said a great quake was expected,.. nothing happened based on his information of collected data,. which was a"Throwing of the bones" collection of reasonings. I understand what and why you have presented this,.But,. picking a number in mag will be your first downfall,. ever notice that the USGS is not in the business of posting predictions of quakes? even the guy on Quakeprediction.com is wrong 90% of the time. and he looks at this stuff everyday..as I stated.. good luck.

Oh and you have stated it is not possible to be precise and yet you give a mag number?

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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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I tell you one more time, first read and think after you have possibility to understood on the end you can post ..



You have all info online ..

"Is not possible to be precise because some times tectonic plates trigger little before or little later of maximum gravitation force and kinetic energy of Moon and Sun .. "

"And that dangerous time for earthquakes are in around 30 days ( Perigee x 2 ) in different months every years like you can see here .."


"When the sun, moon, and the earth are lined up, the sun and moon are exerting their strongest force together and tidal ranges are at their maximum .. "


geography.about.com...
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Thank you for this thread and for the methodical and detailed way you have presented your information to us.
I have been studying possible Earth-Lunar seismic relationships for some time, mainly looking at statistical data for quakes of mag 7-plus in relation to Lunar perigee and apogee dates. Until now, I have not been able to show anything definitive.

However, you have given me some new insights into methods. Your thinking is excellent and I'm glad for your opinions.

In your post HERE where you show that there has been a lot of quake activity in the past 12 hours, yes: there has been a fair amount. It's not exceptional, however. Also, the amount of energy released in all those quakes in your list is not very great. One single high-range magnitude 6 quake would probably release more energy than all those quakes in the list added together. This is a key principle. It is not just the number of quakes that matter, but the energy released by them. It's all about energy release, or energy movement or transformation. (Note: I expect that you know all, this but some members could be new to this type of thing and may not know it, so I am just clarifying it.)

And don't worry about your English. I guess it's a foreign language for you. If we need anything clarified we can ask.


Best regards,

Mike
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